Which MacBook Pro should I buy for college: retina vs. standard?

I've done a lot of research, including visiting an Apple Store, talking with a specialist, and playing with both machines. I can't decide whether I should buy the new MacBook Pro with Retina Display or just the standard 15" MacBook Pro.


I think that the deciding factor should be this: are there going to be significant improvements that will make either computer obsolete in the next 2 years?


My budget is $2,000. I would spend the money on to get the second standard configuration of the 15" MacBook Pro (2.6 GHz quad core i7, 8GB RAM, 750GB HD).


I might have to run the 64-bit BootCamp on it, depending if AutoCAD releases full versions of all of the software I'll need in 2 years (which I think they plan on doing).


I'll also be using Adobe CS6 frequently to create presentations, posters, handouts, etc.


I think that what I've discovered is that the 256GB flash drive on the Retina display only lasts for about 100,000 saves, which is an average person's 5ish years. Is a drive that small worth paying the premium price for? Don't get me wrong, the display is gorgeous and I would love it, but will the computer it's attached to last for the laung haul? I could use an external HD for files, but that's another device to carry around. I'm sure 256GB would be fine for a fair amoutn of photos, my iTunes library, and the software I'll need on it.


I think the ports are worth considering, too. The Retina is ambitious in it's limited ports, but will everything switch over to Thunderbolt soon enough to make the investment?


The other alternative is that I purchase the Retina computer and work a little extra over the summer to be able to buy the latest and greatest two years from now, which might be a good alternative.


Thanks for your insight!

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 6:26 PM

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Jun 13, 2012 7:09 PM in response to Caleb Amundson

For college, the new machine will be much lighter than the standard, so that is a win for the new one.


Both computers will be obsolete in 2 years so that is a wash.


As far as I know, Autocad already runs on the Mac.


You definitely don't need Adobe CS6 to make presentations, posters, handouts, etc. I do that on my iPad. The only innovations Adobe is doing these days is breaking new ground in bloat. All you need for this level of work is iWork (Pages & Keynote).

Jun 14, 2012 7:53 AM in response to Caleb Amundson

Caleb Amundson wrote:


There was one specific program that saves incompatible with the Windows version of the program for some reason with AutoCAD. I'll have to purchase two rendering programs plus the drafting program.


Do you need compatibility with the Windows version? If Autocad doesn't provide that, then you need to complain to Autocad.


It's a requirement of the school to use the Adobe Suite. iWork is great for home users, but it is by no means meant for the professional field.


Adobe is by no means meant for "presentations, posters, handouts". The Adobe Suite is mostly bloatware. Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator are useful if you are an artist or typsetter. Taking the months or years required to master these tools for simple tasks like presentations, posters, or handouts is not a wise idea for a successful professional.

Jun 14, 2012 8:51 AM in response to etresoft

The majority of the program uses PCs because they still dominate the architectural industry. As much as I don't like it, there's not a way around it. The school requires Mac users to have BootCamp. I'm sure that in 2 years everything that I'll need will be cross platform compatible.


And I think that you're misunderstanding what kind of presentations, posters, etc. I'll be doing. These are projects that will be on display. Think 80 x 30 posters detailing all of the drafting process, detail work, and inspiration for each building that I design. Additionally, I'll have to create graphics specific to the building to be used on signage and "murals" throughout. The presentations aren't Keynotes, they're in a recitation where you discuss the aspects of your design with other students and the faculty. Often there will be industry leaders there that we will have to present to. Sure I'll use Keynote when that sort of thing is required, but the majority of what I'm going to be doing I'll require heavier software. I'm also certified in all three programs (Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator) because I was the design editor of my high school yearbook last year. Knowing them in and out makes it much more comfortable to use.


Thanks for your help, though! I understand the frustration with the AutoCAD stuff. Trust me. Haha.

Jun 14, 2012 8:59 AM in response to Caleb Amundson

I've decided to go with a little bit of a less extreme set up. The 15" MacBook Pro with a 2.3GHz quad-core i7, 8GB of RAM, 500GB HD, and the 1680x1050 High-Res Glossy display. I've decided that my goal is to get me through the first two years of school. Should I need to upgrade it in 2 years (which is more likely than not), I'll purchase the top of the line machine at that time. The laptop I'm buying today will just replace one of the older iMacs we have at home right now. I'm sure my little sister will appreciate that! Haha.


My reasoning is this: The retina display is beautiful, but the majority of websites and third party apps don't support the display yet. It'll probably take a year for them to realize if they want to do so and then to actually rerender their applications. Not being able to take advantage of the display in every facet seems kind of useless. Also, the 256GB flash drive just isn't enough space in the modern world. I don't know what they were thinking there. The fact that flash storage hasn't been mastered yet and will advance significantly in the future is another reason. Right now, it only supports about 100,000 rewrites of the memory before it stops working. That won't last me too long, so I'd rather wait until they master flash. Plus, spend less now, buy a better one in a few years!


Thanks for all of your help!

Jun 14, 2012 11:37 AM in response to Caleb Amundson

Don't count on that 2 year mark for everything to be cross platform. Apple Mac has been around longer the Windows PCs, or PCs running any operating system, and still most programs aren't cross platform. Even with Apple doing well in the sales/money department they are still only Max 10% of the computer market and don't outsell Android devices. The sales and money come from the iPhone, iPod and iPad. If they had to live on just the computer sales they'd have much less money in the bank, if any. The world runs on PCs running either Windows or Linux/Unix. That is not going to change especially with the way Apple is closing done the Mac system.


Mac is a Niche market. And with what they have cost and still cost it is going to stay that way. You can get the same hardware in a Windows PC for half if not less then half of what Apple charges. Except the screen and that will soon be available in PCs


Pay no attention to etresoft he likes to start fights (at least that is what I get from most of his posts). Very combative.


For what you are paying for that model Mac you could get 2 PC notebooks with the same hardware and not have to worry about running your school required software on them.


In any event Good Luck.

Jun 14, 2012 11:58 AM in response to stevejobsfan0123

And your post helps how?


If you are going to run Windows as your main OS a Mac is a poor choice for this. It is limited even though you can install Windows on it in several ways.


I run OS X on my Mac. I do have XP installed in a VM just so I can use some of the software that does not have a Mac version or equivalent. But my main systems are PCs because that is the OS that runs all the software I use on a daily basis. I certainly would not expect a Mac to do that with a BC install of Windows. Also Mac's are limited in what you can upgrade and how you have to install Windows. Windows PCs are not in that respect.


Have a nice day.

Jun 14, 2012 12:57 PM in response to Shootist007

Shootist007 wrote:


Pay no attention to etresoft he likes to start fights (at least that is what I get from most of his posts). Very combative.

The only person being combative here is you. Someone asked an honest question and you immediately tried to post misleading information. The MacBook Pro with Retina display sells for $2199. The original poster is a college student with a budget of $2000, so you quote "all the bells and whistles" for $4177. But that isn't true. "All" the bells and whistles is $8,865.94, but that includes things like a 27" external display and Thunderbolt RAID. You just included some plausible, but unnecessary, upgrades to make it seem more expensive than it really is. Then you tried to push a PC and attacked me for no reason. Someone else calls you on the PC issue and you attack him too.


Luckily, the original poster is smart enough to ignore you and literally laugh at your advice. He clarified the questions I had and seems to have made the right decision.

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