5 Replies Latest reply: Jun 16, 2012 7:09 AM by Bengt Wärleby
DavidHSimmons Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi,

 

Using Final Cut Pro X, I export a film in standard Quicktime MOV format, shot on a Canon EOS 550D in 1080i HD.

 

FCPX is happy, my Mac is happy, Quicktime is happy, and for the most part, iDVD is happy - it picks up the files and runs with them.

 

But sometimes I produce an MOV file, and it's as though iDVD can't see it - it isn't there. I can play it in Quicktime, I can move it around, but iDVD just doesn't acknowledge its existence.

 

I've recently produced 4 films and iDVD could see 2 but not the other two. It only sees them if I import them into iMovie, and then re-export them, but that sometimes corrupts elements of the film.

 

The two films it could see (less than 2 Gb) were smaller than the other 2 (over 3 Gb), but i have also created a DVD where the main film was over 13 Gb, and iDVD could see it without blinking. So I don't think it could be a size limit issue.

 

I am running iDVD 7.1.2 (1158) on an iMac which is running OS 10.6.8, with 4GB RAM.

 

Does anyone have any ideas???

 

Thanks


iDVD 7.1.2, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • Bengt Wärleby Level 6 Level 6 (19,460 points)

    Hi

     

    I can only guess - There are a lot of info that are needed to mak any clever answer. BUT

     

    • iDVD - Doesn't care about Gbs at all - only duration/time

    I've movies on 500 Mb that are to large to fit and on 50Gb that fit's nicely

     

    iDVD 08, 09 & 11 has three levels of qualities. (version 7.0.1, 7,0.4 & 7.1.1) and iDVD 6 has the two last ones

     

    • Professional Quality

    (movies + menus up to 120 min.) - BEST (but not always for short movies e.g. up to 45 minutes in total)

     

    • Best Performances

    (movies + menus  less than 60 min.) - High quality on final DVD (Can be best for short movies)

     

    • High Quality (in iDVD08 or 09) / Best Quality (in iDVD6)

    (movies + menus up to 120 min.) - slightly lower quality than above

     

    Menu can take 15 minutes or even more - I use a very simple one with no audio or animation like ”Brushed Metal” in old Themes.

     

    About double on DL DVDs.

     

    • Then - MOV - is no video codec - it's a container. Open it with QuickTime-Player then open Inspector [cmd+I] and then read

     

    Video Format/Codec: nnnnnnnnnnnn - and -

    Frame rate: 25fps or 29.97fps ? ?

     

    What does they read.

     

    Yours Bengt W

  • DavidHSimmons Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Bengt

     

    Interesting you should ask - the film iDVD can "see" is Apple Pro-Res 422, Linear PCM, Timecode

    The other one is H.264, AAC

     

    I have never consciously changed the way I export the films from FCPX ... but it appears to be the same thing for all the films which iDVD can "see".

     

    I shall experiment a bit more when I have a moment...

     

    Thanks,

     

    David

  • DavidHSimmons Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Bengt,

     

    Here are the details when I look at the Quicktime Inspector:

     

    Gascoigne Report (can't be seen by iDVD)

    Length: 4 min 18

    Format: Apple ProRes 422, 1920 x 1080, Millions

    24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo (L R), 48.000 kHz

    FPS: 23.38

    Data rate: 116.32 MB/s

     

    The Survey (can be seen)

    Length: 1 min 59

    Format: Apple ProRes 422, 1920 x 1080, Millions

    24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo (L R), 48.000 kHz

    FPS: 23.98

    Data rate: 111.33 MB/s

     

    The News (can be seen)

    Length: 1 min 41

    Format: Apple ProRes 422, 1920 x 1080, Millions

    24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo (L R), 48.000 kHz

    FPS:23.98

    Data Rate: 101.30 MB/s

     

    A Great Time (Can't be seen)

    Length: 4 mins 10

    Format: Apple ProRes 422, 1920 x 1080, Millions

    24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo (L R), 48.000 kHz

    FPS: 23.98

    Data Rate: 101.20 MB/s

     

    Volunteering (Can be seen)

    Length: 16 minutes

    Format: Apple ProRes 422, 1920 x 1080, Millions

    24-bit Integer (Little Endian), 5.1 (L R C LFE Ls Rs), 48.000 kHz

    FPS: 23.98

    Data Rate: 108.98 Mb/s

  • DavidHSimmons Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi

     

    Just discovered that if I export from FCPX using H.264, it can be seen by iDVD.

     

    I shall burn the disc and test it on the TV.

     

    Cheers

  • Bengt Wärleby Level 6 Level 6 (19,460 points)

    What I find problematic is

     

    fps 23.98 (24)

     

    iDVD can not use this - it is either

    • PAL = 25fps

    • NTSC = 29.97fps (30)

     

    I use JES_Deinterlacer to convert from PAL to NTSC for DVDs to US - but it can also make a very good conversion from 24fps to what's needed. MUCH better than just drop it into iMovie or iDVD to let them do the conversion ( Meaning BAD result )

     

    Also feeding iDVD - HD-material will not improve the final out come - as downscaling to SD-Video is not done in a good way but result will lose much of it's quality

     

    DVD - is as standard (Whatever program is used to create it) - Interlaced SD-Video. If You need HD then Blu-Ray is the only real format availably. (HD-DVD is very unique - and even fewer players can handle it to be playedback)

     

    Yours Bengt W