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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.


After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).


Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:26 PM

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Aug 19, 2012 11:02 PM in response to DJ Coffee

Dj,


Whatever is the problem that you have with me you are goning to have to take to your psychiatrist. I am amazed why this hasn't become obvious to you, but I do not care about your opinion/judgement to what is off-topic or not. You are nothing here, probably just a typing nerd with excess sugar resting in your cold cold and lonely room trying to impose an authority and a representation (when you schizophrenically claim you speak for everybody, looks like a simple case of trying to acquire virtual fantasy-support for your individual claims) that has never been granted to you in any aspect of your life.

Aug 20, 2012 12:15 AM in response to High-Death

High-Death

Dj,


You are nothing here, probably just a typing nerd with excess sugar resting in your cold cold and lonely room trying to impose an authority and a representation (when you schizophrenically claim you speak for everybody, looks like a simple case of trying to acquire virtual fantasy-support for your individual claims) that has never been granted to you in any aspect of your life.

Hmmmm, following the "never give up, never surrender" edict?

Aug 20, 2012 12:20 AM in response to High-Death

High-Death wrote:


bjiibj,


First, good reply!


Now, read about the two types of Led Backlit LCD displays here:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_display


The one your are sort of describing in your post is the FULL-ARRAY. But I think the case here is the Dynamic LEDs. I will only address your question. The reason the phosphors would be responsible is because they remain excited, delaying the deacy and still providing a dimmed light, these phosphors would dynamically (locally) keeping certain pixels still on and keeping them form refreshing.


The thing is, LED backlight displays with local dimming still have only a "few" rows of LEDs, it's not like there is one LED per pixel, and since the image retention is clearly on a pixel-by-pixel basis (those of us who have image retention rMBP know this all too well), I don't think it's possible that it's due to the backlight LEDs having different light outputs due to some kind of memory. If that were the case, whole regions of the screen would show the effect, not highly detailed images (you can see in photos that demonstrate the problem, lettering left over from a previously displayed browser window is still visible in image retention; LED backlights cannot cause this as there is not one LED per pixel - from what I've read, it's more like hundreds of LEDs at the most, when of course the number of pixels on an rMBP is in the millions, and the LED "resolution" required to show text would have to be much higher than is actually present).

Aug 20, 2012 2:13 AM in response to itsamacthing

Update for you all gents. A good but suspicious update. My new rMBP arrived today. Now I contact apple wednesday (last week) to organise a replacement. The project delivery date on the email sent to me was 1-3 september. In Australia their time to DISPATCH is i think 3-5 business days.


So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and arrived today Monday. Thats 3 business days and it arrived. I highly doubt it was sent from China I think it was already here in Australia and given to me.


Anyways the new model is a Samsung screen YAY. My 1st replacement and I get a Samsung screen.


But I started to wonder if perhaps Apple is increasingly aware of this issue and those that ask for replacements due to "IR issues" are being selectively sent Samsung screen'd rMBP's that are on hand.


I dont expect everybody will experience the same but due to the incredibly quick turnaround and the weird fluke its a Samsung on the first replacement leads me to believe this may be so.

Aug 20, 2012 5:48 AM in response to btollenaar

ONE Retina was here. Received last week Saturday directly from Amazon UK. Image retention issue, laptop returned today. Great MacBook but faulty - The terminal reading about the panel showed: LPxxxxxxxxx Which stands for LG screen (Goldstar previously!)

It has been manufactured before July 25th, because it arrived with LION 10.7 Operating Systems. Anyway, I need 5 good macbboks for my employees but now will have to wait some weeks/months and see if Apple will fix this issue for all and ensure top quality again. Until then.....all orders are on hold.

Aug 20, 2012 7:08 AM in response to mittense

Hi guys,


my first mac , a rMBP, just arrived, ordered on 4th August.It's the base model and runs OS X 10.8. I was checking the display it is an LG display but everything SEEMS good. I am now performing a test for IR seen in another site:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1422669


Is this test enough for testing IR? What else should i do?


Thanks in advance..


PS: After 30min left with the chessbox image, zoomed on full screen, and display light at maximum, no IR...

Aug 20, 2012 8:40 AM in response to raadaris

raadaris wrote:



Is this test enough for testing IR? What else should i do?



My only recommendation is to try the test again in 2 - 3 weeks. There is some suggestion that it may take some time for the screen to start to show this problem; but it's not clear if this is really the case or not (I personally tried reproducing the image retention problem a week after getting my rMBP but could not, but then a month later could - BUT, my first attempt was done back when there was less certainty on what situation caused it, and I tested only with a light color grey background, and we now know that dark grey is required).


Anyway, if after 2 - 3 weeks you still can't reproduce image retention and there are no other problems, I would say that you should be happy with your laptop.

Aug 20, 2012 8:47 AM in response to mittense

Just got a replacement this morning and.. I'm not satisfied again.


First rMBP was with LG screen, don't remember which week. It had very low IR after ~5 min, but it was hardly to notice. It also had a strong yellow tint and macbook itself had a sort of different creaks.


Second rMBP have also LG sreen but no IR at all for 10 min. (week 34) But still it has a yellowish screen. Assemblage seems to be fine. I think to return it again 😟

Aug 20, 2012 10:36 AM in response to n0vniel

n0vniel wrote:


Second rMBP have also LG sreen but no IR at all for 10 min. (week 34) But still it has a yellowish screen. Assemblage seems to be fine. I think to return it again 😟


Do you have any objective evidence that the yellowish screen was abnormally yellow? It's hard to tell if the yellow complaint is about personal preference or a real problem with the displays. I don't know how we'll ever know unless someone with the equipment to do a real evaluation of the screen can do so.


Also, did you go through the Apple supplied calibration dialogs to see if you could get the display to have a white point more to your liking?

MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

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