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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by High-Death,

    High-Death High-Death Aug 18, 2012 11:07 AM in response to bjiibj
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    Aug 18, 2012 11:07 AM in response to bjiibj

    Old Apple Macbooks (2002 and before) were - amazingly - true 8-bit depth, they were the FIRST and only. Nowadays it is common for all mobile computers to be 6-bit, i think some thinkpads are 8-bit as well (they also used to be). The greates problem is that when you increase the color gamut (form 66.9% of the sRGB space to 99% of the sRGB space that demands 8-bit depth for precise color reproduction) without increasing the bit depth, image artifacts like dithering become more appearent. But almost all IPS LCDs are just 6-bit.

  • by High-Death,

    High-Death High-Death Aug 18, 2012 11:10 AM in response to syrius777
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    Aug 18, 2012 11:10 AM in response to syrius777

    syrius777,

     

    True, but if you work with images, photos or videos, that won't do, you have to keep a proper calibrated monitor. If you are using it just for fun or basics it is ok to have any calibration you want or sort of. As long as you accept you won't be displaying images and videos  in the correct way since they were edited to be displayed in proper calibrated display. It is the same thing for Home Theaters.

  • by syrius777,

    syrius777 syrius777 Aug 18, 2012 11:11 AM in response to High-Death
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    Aug 18, 2012 11:11 AM in response to High-Death

    You can still try 1800 if you want it more blueish than yellowish on lg,nothing wrong with it.

  • by syrius777,

    syrius777 syrius777 Aug 18, 2012 11:14 AM in response to High-Death
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    Aug 18, 2012 11:14 AM in response to High-Death

    Yes you are right about the 2200 but its still up to the user i think.If yellowish is a problem for him... i personaly like 2200 looks more natural

  • by klakier,

    klakier klakier Aug 18, 2012 12:17 PM in response to mittense
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    Aug 18, 2012 12:17 PM in response to mittense

    I have just received MacBook Retina today. It shows ghost image after 15-20 minutes. My concern isn't the esthetics or lack of perfection. I'm worried that the screen may gradually unfold a serious fault after a year or later when you're not covered for a repair or replacement.

    Apple UK technical support has confirmed and recorded as 'Hardware Fault' eligible for repair or return/refund. I have an impression that they know about this issue very well. I hope that Apple will deal with this manufacturing problem..... so for now I will not be placing any new orders for Retina models.

  • by kobestarr,

    kobestarr kobestarr Aug 18, 2012 12:23 PM in response to Apples_8212
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    Aug 18, 2012 12:23 PM in response to Apples_8212

    hey 8212!

     

    I was thinking about a preemptive return but i just cant justify it.

     

    Side by side with my 2010 MBP i cant see any yellowness - if there was visible IR i would do... i have the three year apple care so if IR does manifest then i'll deffo kick up an allmighty fuss.

     

    Another problem is that I have a dissertation due in 6 weeks. Mt old MBP has a new owner and I can't afford any downtime!!

     

    Good luck though!

  • by angelus512,

    angelus512 angelus512 Aug 18, 2012 5:23 PM in response to kobestarr
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    Aug 18, 2012 5:23 PM in response to kobestarr

    Btw to an earlier poster that said "LG was an up and coming manufacturer" untrue. LG has been around for a LONG time. Its just they used to be called Goldstar.

     

    Also in appliances yes its true LG is known for their lack of quality control.

     

    LG is a simple company. They changed the name to LG because Goldstar was indicative of low market products and everybody knew it at the time. Most of you aren't old enough to remember.

     

    LG went marketing crazy, redesigned everything to look "sleek" and slowl raised their prices across the board.

     

    Now most LG products look sleek, cool, and they have marketing everywhere so people naturally figure they must be pretty good. Isn't really the case.

  • by UltraMax,

    UltraMax UltraMax Aug 18, 2012 8:25 PM in response to syrius777
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:25 PM in response to syrius777

    I left the "About Downloads" doc open for exactly 5 minutes before i made this video. http://youtu.be/muDE26OFM1k

  • by Usmaak,

    Usmaak Usmaak Aug 18, 2012 8:32 PM in response to angelus512
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:32 PM in response to angelus512

    angelus512 wrote:

     

    Btw to an earlier poster that said "LG was an up and coming manufacturer" untrue. LG has been around for a LONG time. Its just they used to be called Goldstar.

     

    Also in appliances yes its true LG is known for their lack of quality control.

     

    LG is a simple company. They changed the name to LG because Goldstar was indicative of low market products and everybody knew it at the time. Most of you aren't old enough to remember.

     

    LG went marketing crazy, redesigned everything to look "sleek" and slowl raised their prices across the board.

     

    Now most LG products look sleek, cool, and they have marketing everywhere so people naturally figure they must be pretty good. Isn't really the case.

    I remember Goldstar.  Universally known for makng low end garbage.  I didn't know that they became LG.  I'd forgotten all about them.

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Aug 18, 2012 8:39 PM in response to angelus512
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:39 PM in response to angelus512

    I remember Goldstar, just took a brief look at Wikipedia.  Seems they had a few divisions since the 40s when they first started doing business.  L is for LUCKY and G is for GOLDSTAR.  The lucky side was famous for toothpaste and detergent, while the Goldstar has made consumer electronics since the 50s.  The G side has had a lot of failed  partnerships, including one with Nortel who went bankrupt soon after. 

  • by angelus512,

    angelus512 angelus512 Aug 18, 2012 8:42 PM in response to itsamacthing
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:42 PM in response to itsamacthing

    So just so I can be the first to say it with great effect.

     

    Dear Apple,

    Thanks for landing us all with Lucky-Goldstar panels. You really do pick the best materials/parts don't you Jony Ive?

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Aug 18, 2012 8:54 PM in response to angelus512
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:54 PM in response to angelus512

    I think Apple execs are legally obligated to maximize profits.  I deal with vendors often, they have different prices.  So if one vendor has a low failure rate but higher price and another has a lower price and acceptable failure rate, it's a business decision. 

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Aug 18, 2012 8:54 PM in response to UltraMax
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    Aug 18, 2012 8:54 PM in response to UltraMax

    Great video

  • by angelus512,

    angelus512 angelus512 Aug 18, 2012 9:06 PM in response to itsamacthing
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    Aug 18, 2012 9:06 PM in response to itsamacthing

    Well I was under the impression Apple was supposed to be as follows:

     

    "At Apple we DONT compromise on quality. No matter what it costs we make the best products in the world and our prices reflect that"

     

    Excuse me while I chuckle a little.

  • by JustSayNo,

    JustSayNo JustSayNo Aug 18, 2012 9:13 PM in response to kevinjung
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    Aug 18, 2012 9:13 PM in response to kevinjung

    kevinjung wrote:

     

    If anyone is new to this discussion and do not want to read the overwhelming number previous posts, I've constructed a webpage.

    It will summarize the issue, determine if you have the issue, and give you solution methods.

    http://www.cyneticsoft.com/mbpretina

     

    And for others, I'm soon going to be collecting data so I can do some analysis on this matter.

    It will be on the same webpage. I'll update you when it is available for submitting info.

    Cheers!

    Good info!

     

    One comment though: you mention requesting a Samsung screen as a replacement, but I don't think this is possible. When I tried to get my screen replaced and specifically asked what brand it was, they said there was no way to tell until after it had been installed. And unless they see a problem that would justify another replacement, they won't replace it again (and an LG screen by itself isn't justification for a replacement).

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