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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by Maziyar,

    Maziyar Maziyar Jul 17, 2012 7:39 AM in response to salthustle
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    Jul 17, 2012 7:39 AM in response to salthustle

    Mine is on the way and I'm scared that this issue wont come up when I turn it on for the first time and I have keep an eye on it for god knows how long. I hope if mine is defective I find it out in first 30 minutes.

     

    Thanks

  • by Offcs,

    Offcs Offcs Jul 17, 2012 7:38 AM in response to salthustle
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    Jul 17, 2012 7:38 AM in response to salthustle

    salthustle. Where did you take it? The 14 days is an Apple thing, and does not apply in the UK. Under the Sale of Goods Act the MacBook that they sold you was faulty and you are entitled to a full refund. They can offer you a repair or replacement, but you do not have to accept it. I would point them to a few of the discussions on here, including this one. Remember that it doesn't matter what Apple say, written or otherwise, the Sale of Goods Act is what they trade under.

    If they still disagree, insist on seeing the store manager.

    Unfortunately, as consumer rights are so well protected under the Sale of Goods Act, lots of  (maybe even all) stores try to weasel out of it. Comet tried to pull a fast one on me on Saturday. Had to be very loud but made them obey the law in the end. It's cost them a future customer.

     

    Mine was manufactured in April, and doesn't have this problem. Tha battery life is terrible, even when forcing it to run on Intel Graphics. Every day bar two since I have had it, it has frozen and then restarted once a day. I am taking it in on Friday. For a replacement.

  • by salthustle,

    salthustle salthustle Jul 17, 2012 7:50 AM in response to Offcs
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    Jul 17, 2012 7:50 AM in response to Offcs

    Good advice. I just started looking in to the Sale of Goods Act now, if i refuse a repair do they have to offer a replacement? What i need is to keep this one till they have a replacement in stock so i'm not left 4 weeks without one to work with. Is that the deal comet have given to you?

  • by Offcs,

    Offcs Offcs Jul 17, 2012 7:57 AM in response to salthustle
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    Jul 17, 2012 7:57 AM in response to salthustle

    They can offer a replacement, but if they don't have any in stock, you're stuck with a refund or accepting a repair. This may be my problem on Friday for me. When I got mine it was the only one that they had in that day. Mine is useable, so I can wait for a replacement, but will get one as soon as they have one.

    Comet told me that I had to have the defective monitor I bought checked out by the manufacturer before they would do anything, and I had to contact the manufacturer. Both statements are untrue. Your contact is with the shop that sold it to you, and they have to refund your money. Which they did.

  • by Syphon Filter,

    Syphon Filter Syphon Filter Jul 17, 2012 9:59 AM in response to mittense
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    Jul 17, 2012 9:59 AM in response to mittense

    Eurgh.

     

    The bricks & mortar stores apparently cannot deal with returns for items purchased online (would have been nice if someone mentioned that). That's mildy inconvenient...

     

    I must admit, the image persistence/retention seems to come and go quite quickly. I just left a Safari window open showing the Google search page for 10-15 minutes and sure enough it was there when the window was removed. Within a few minutes of closing the window it had faded away though.

     

    However, I'm annoyed that it happens at all and it makes working with graphics/images/even word processing difficult. Especially as the new Photoshop seems to have a dark stage.

     

    I am going to call Apple and see what they say about the situation, personally I don't think it's acceptable and that's highlighted by the fact that some people seem to have machines that do not exhibit this problem at all.

     

    Clearly they are capable of producing "good ones" and some have just slipped through the net in terms of QC.

     

    A shame as otherwise this is a really great machine and I'm glad I made the switch but in some ways I can't help but treat the situation as bitter-sweat.

     

    I will report back after I have spoken to Apple tomorrow.

  • by Syphon Filter,

    Syphon Filter Syphon Filter Jul 18, 2012 9:43 AM in response to Syphon Filter
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    Jul 18, 2012 9:43 AM in response to Syphon Filter

    Spoke to Apple today and they were very helpful.

     

    An advanced replacement should be with me in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully that one will be good!

  • by Maziyar,

    Maziyar Maziyar Jul 18, 2012 9:49 AM in response to Syphon Filter
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    Jul 18, 2012 9:49 AM in response to Syphon Filter

    happy to hear that,

     

    I still like to know what week did your machine build in. (http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com)

     

    Good luck and thanks for sharing

  • by salthustle,

    salthustle salthustle Jul 18, 2012 10:17 AM in response to Syphon Filter
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    Jul 18, 2012 10:17 AM in response to Syphon Filter

    Good to hear, what i would like to know is why when i have done exactly the same on the phone they are refusing to organise an advanced replacement. I've been getting nonsense about checking with engineering departments, and having to wait up to 5 working days before the case can even be moved forwards. This inconsistency in dealing with what is an identical issue from Apple is completely ridiculous.

  • by kylefromminnetonka,

    kylefromminnetonka kylefromminnetonka Jul 18, 2012 10:39 AM in response to salthustle
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    Jul 18, 2012 10:39 AM in response to salthustle

    So far my replacement hasn't had any issues with ghosting. The backlighting seems a little less even than before. I still prefer it over the ghosting, so I'm happy enough.

  • by SwagasaurusRex,

    SwagasaurusRex SwagasaurusRex Jul 18, 2012 11:07 AM in response to kylefromminnetonka
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:07 AM in response to kylefromminnetonka

    I'm not sure what your configuration is, but you paid at least $2200 for this laptop. That's quite a lot of money. That should demand perfection in build quality. I would not settle for anything less than perfect if I were you.

  • by kylefromminnetonka,

    kylefromminnetonka kylefromminnetonka Jul 18, 2012 11:27 AM in response to SwagasaurusRex
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    Jul 18, 2012 11:27 AM in response to SwagasaurusRex

    It's so faint that I can only see it if I look closely on a solid medium to light gray color. It doesn't bother me since I don't notice it during regular usage. The ghosting did bother me. I'm on my third laptop, so I believe Apple has held up their end of the bargain by being helpful while I go through the in store return process and eventually getting me a not-quite-perfect but still nice display on an otherwise awesome machine.

     

    I should also mention that my previous PC laptops had WAY worse backlighting inconsistency. I never noticed it being bad on my old Macbook Pro, but it could be just the same as this one for all I know.

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Jul 19, 2012 4:46 AM in response to kylefromminnetonka
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    Jul 19, 2012 4:46 AM in response to kylefromminnetonka

    While Apple customer service is still top notch, albiet not as consistant person to person, the fact is that sales are way up and they are relying on to many vendors to source all these parts.  I got a new MacBook Air a few weeks ago and sat it down next to my 13 in 11 month old MBA and wow, what a difference.  My 13 inch had a wonderful colorful screen and my 11 inch has a dull yellowish screen.  Replacement on the way.  I ran this command on both machines and it looked like my 13 inch had a Samsung and my 11 inch, who knows what... 

     

    ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

     

    Would be interesting to see owners of rMBPs to run this command and see which manufacturers are making the bad displays.

     

    This thread somewhat the idea of getting a rMBP for me right now.  I want one, but look what I'm going through just to get a MBA?  I buy Apple products because they are supposed to be high quality, but instead it looks like a lottery process now. 

     

    At least we still have Apple Care... they will always make things right and the customer happy. 

  • by salthustle,

    salthustle salthustle Jul 19, 2012 6:17 AM in response to itsamacthing
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    Jul 19, 2012 6:17 AM in response to itsamacthing

    Ran the command and its just giving "Colour LCD" so no idea who manufactured mine but its getting worse if anything.

  • by htabak,

    htabak htabak Jul 19, 2012 7:00 AM in response to itsamacthing
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:00 AM in response to itsamacthing

    Ran the command and its just giving "Color LCD"

    Still no problems, 1 week in use.

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Jul 19, 2012 7:24 AM in response to htabak
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:24 AM in response to htabak

    ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

     

    What did it say above "Color LCD"  ?

     

    LTN154BT

    Color LCD

     

    Google the part number above Color LCD to find out who made your panal

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