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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by NPuter,

    NPuter NPuter Aug 26, 2012 8:13 PM in response to cwen824
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    Aug 26, 2012 8:13 PM in response to cwen824

    Hey guys,

     

    I purchased my rMBP on July 9th, and I'm just noticing image retention problems now. I have very noticeable IR - I only have to leave something on screen for less than 3min in order to get pretty severe IR - enough to read text on a 50% grey background.

    I just found this thread today. Obviously, I have an LG pannel. I scheduled a genius bar appt. for tomorrow. What are my options? Am I too far from my purchase date to push for a replacement computer?

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Aug 26, 2012 8:24 PM in response to NPuter
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    Aug 26, 2012 8:24 PM in response to NPuter

    Hey guys,

     

    I purchased my rMBP on July 9th, and I'm just noticing image retention problems now. I have very noticeable IR - I only have to leave something on screen for less than 3min in order to get pretty severe IR - enough to read text on a 50% grey background.

    I just found this thread today. Obviously, I have an LG pannel. I scheduled a genius bar appt. for tomorrow. What are my options? Am I too far from my purchase date to push for a replacement computer?

    I would be very nice, and demonstrate the noticable IR and let them decide if they will repair or outright replace the laptop for you.  

  • by Sir Finkus,

    Sir Finkus Sir Finkus Aug 26, 2012 9:11 PM in response to johns1
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    Aug 26, 2012 9:11 PM in response to johns1

    I heard about the issues with image retention, so when I got my first MBP I immediately checked it and found nothing wrong.  Three weeks later, I noticed that it was starting to burn in so I had the display replaced.  Of course I checked the new screen as soon as I got it and also found it flawless, but around 3 weeks later and it's back and worse than ever. Leaving a window up for only about a minute will cause severe burn in that lasts more than 15 minutes and is even visible on "busy" backgrounds.

     

    The odd thing is that it just suddenly appeared in both cases.  The burn in currently is bad enough that there is no way I would not have noticed it before this point if it was happening gradually.

     

    Both are LG screens. 

     

    I'm going to the Apple store tomorrow, hopefully I get a good one, but based upon what I'm reading, I'm not optimistic.

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Aug 27, 2012 12:07 AM in response to Sir Finkus
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:07 AM in response to Sir Finkus

    I heard about the issues with image retention, so when I got my first MBP I immediately checked it and found nothing wrong.  Three weeks later, I noticed that it was starting to burn in so I had the display replaced.  Of course I checked the new screen as soon as I got it and also found it flawless, but around 3 weeks later and it's back and worse than ever. Leaving a window up for only about a minute will cause severe burn in that lasts more than 15 minutes and is even visible on "busy" backgrounds.

     

    The odd thing is that it just suddenly appeared in both cases.  The burn in currently is bad enough that there is no way I would not have noticed it before this point if it was happening gradually.

     

    Both are LG screens.

     

    I'm going to the Apple store tomorrow, hopefully I get a good one, but based upon what I'm reading, I'm not optimistic.

    How odd, nothing for 3 weeks then suddenly you have IR that appears in a minute and takes 15 minutes to disipate?   I can rationalize someting going wrong once, but twice in this bazaar manner makes me wonder what is causing your situation?    I like to know what the Apple store staff think about this.

  • by Dr Sly,

    Dr Sly Dr Sly Aug 27, 2012 12:46 AM in response to johns1
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:46 AM in response to johns1

    Same for me, I'm on my second LG screen (which is awfully yellow tinted, I tried calibration, but meh).

     

    Gets worse with time.

     

    I'm going in the 'shop' tomorrow, Genius appointment... I took more pictures and I'm pretty angry right now.

     

    See the IR issue:

     

    IMG_2491.JPG

    test.jpg

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Aug 27, 2012 12:54 AM in response to Dr Sly
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:54 AM in response to Dr Sly

    Try to stay peaceful man, you will be ok in the end.. getting angry wont help.  :)

  • by Dr Sly,

    Dr Sly Dr Sly Aug 27, 2012 12:55 AM in response to Dr Sly
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:55 AM in response to Dr Sly

    Oh and to all the naysayers who say:

     

    "why do you care, it's only light-on-dark-gray and that's pretty specific",

     

    well, here is an example of unacceptable daily use in the life of a non-photographer, non-videographer, yet pretty important to me.

     

    exhibit 1: fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) software showing brain areas in three dimensions for experimental/clinical/research purposes. Notice how, like radiography, coloring, shading, and contrast are paramount to the interpretation of what is going on.

     

    IMG_2481 rev.jpg

    (notice how yelloish it all is by the way)

     

    Exhibit 2: a few minutes of this, then I blank it out by going into Expose/Mission Control/whatever mode.

     

    IMG_2483.JPG

     

    See, I call this unacceptable. Not to mention pretty awful for scientific purposes when using information visualization tools.

     

    Exhibit 3: same image blanked out, but swiping up on my trackpad, it gets more contrast or something (show desktop + mission control ?).

     

    IMG_2485 rev.jpg

    Sad. Just sad. Like yellow sad, really.

     

    Dr Sly

  • by balex2012,

    balex2012 balex2012 Aug 27, 2012 1:06 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 27, 2012 1:06 AM in response to mittense

    want to share my experience with the LG screen. My first one was with a LG, at the beginning was just perfect.  after about three weeks, and i updated the system to mountain lion, i have noticed there is burn in on the screen after only 4 or 5 minutes, it was very noticeable, and was getting worse. So i had asked for a replacement in store. I got the new one after several weeks, this one is with samsung screen, util now, there is no burn in.

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Aug 27, 2012 1:12 AM in response to balex2012
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    Aug 27, 2012 1:12 AM in response to balex2012

    Here's yet another thread from MacRumors not linked before.

     

    Anyone here with a REPLACEMENT LG screen that has no IR?

     

    The # 5 post is interesting

    We have two replacements at the office.


    The original LG displays had the dramatic, highly visible defect.


    These two replacements are also LG, yet they are just fine. They've each had about 60 hours of usage & show no sign of a problem.

     

    Interesting to have thie poster easily identify IR issues with some original LG displays, and then we have them replaced and no IR.

  • by pescio,

    pescio pescio Aug 27, 2012 3:15 AM in response to johns1
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    Aug 27, 2012 3:15 AM in response to johns1
  • by Sev BH,

    Sev BH Sev BH Aug 27, 2012 3:26 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 27, 2012 3:26 AM in response to mittense

    Hi Guys. I have the same problem. LG screen, simply horrible image retention.

    I have booked an appointment at the apple store on friday and hopefully they will replace it instead of being aholes.

    I can't believe I paid so much money for this crap. And the stupid part is, even if they do replace it, chances are they give you another rmbp with another defective LG screen!

    SOOO angry right now.

  • by NPuter,

    NPuter NPuter Aug 27, 2012 6:26 AM in response to Sev BH
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    Aug 27, 2012 6:26 AM in response to Sev BH

    Sev BH wrote:

     

    Hi Guys. I have the same problem. LG screen, simply horrible image retention.

    I have booked an appointment at the apple store on friday and hopefully they will replace it instead of being aholes.

    I can't believe I paid so much money for this crap. And the stupid part is, even if they do replace it, chances are they give you another rmbp with another defective LG screen!

    SOOO angry right now.

    I am in the same position. I am very happy with the computer - actually, if the IR problem was uniform across all rMBPs, I would be fine with it. It's the fact that apple has this screen lottery going on with one display that is clearly flawed. The fact that we, as the end-users, can tell the difference between the two displays just by looking at them is just not acceptable...

  • by salthustle,

    salthustle salthustle Aug 27, 2012 6:36 AM in response to pescio
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    Aug 27, 2012 6:36 AM in response to pescio

    pescio wrote:

     

    finally the tech sites are starting to report this issue.

     

    http://www.extremetech.com/computing/134985-apples-new-retina-display-dogged-by- image-retention-increasingly-unhappy-users

     

    It is about time this issue was given more recognition considering its apparent uniformity across a high percentage of all LG manufactured panels. Coming to think of it, the user they mention in that article seems to have had a terrible experience very similar to mine...

  • by Marketh131,

    Marketh131 Marketh131 Aug 27, 2012 6:52 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 27, 2012 6:52 AM in response to mittense

    I ordered my custom rMBP (2.6/16/512) on the 20th and it has been shipped today, due to arrive later this week.

    This thread has made me quite nervous about it's arrival, hoping that I get either a good LG or (more preferably) a Samsung display. I need it for work, so I can't really afford the hassle of the endless returns/replacements (which sounds like it's just pure luck as to which you get).

     

    Here's to hoping! Maybe I'll be too excited on it's arrival and forget to even check which display I have.

  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Aug 27, 2012 7:05 AM in response to Sir Finkus
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    Aug 27, 2012 7:05 AM in response to Sir Finkus

    Sorry about your bad luck with LG. Same boat, two faulty screens with bad IR.

     

    Ignore the one or two naysayers around who claim you and others are imagining things.

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