Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

Update:

Went to local Apple Store who told me they were just told of the problem 3 days ago and to be aware of people coming in. I showed them my bad IR problems, he said it was the first he had seen. I explained it was an LG and had not shown itself to about 3-4 weeks in and has been getting progressively worse. I had a week 26. They had a replacement screen in stock and I'll have my computer back tomorrow. I asked if it was another LG but he didn't know so I'll know tomorrow. I really don't care if it is to be honest, but if it has the same problem I will be asking for a replacement with a Samsung screen or a full refund. Yet another reason never to buy a first year product.

Mark,

I mentioned the colour in this thread as some people are getting IR (I did with my first LG) and some seeing yellow and some seeing both.

Though not related (except as a sign of inconsistent QC), there have been questions about whether the Samsung screens are better than LG.

My Samsung has no persistence at all, but does seem yellow compared to my iPhone/iPad and the other Samsung here.

As an experienced photographer, I would be interested in your opinion of the photo I posted a few pages back, is that amount of "yellow" what you would call a good white point ?

Way too many variables to be diagnosing people's color calibration using web-hosted photographs..

Here's one comparison of the color differences. Everybodys favorite background color:

LG left, Samsung right.

And a two weeks used LG after a two minute test:

BRanger wrote:

 

Way too many variables to be diagnosing people's color calibration using web-hosted photographs..

This is true, but a side-by-side comparison of LG and Samsung screens that are actually physically side-by-side in the same photograph is still helpful. As you can see from that top photo that "zolobot" took, the LG display is definitely trending more towards yellow. However, with reference to some earlier comments, perhaps the LG display in the photo above is actually more accurate, with respect to color accuracy, than the Samsung, which may be too blue. I honestly don't know. Personally, I'd take either one of them as long as they didn't have IR, which is the main concern of this thread.

 

LG left, Samsung right.

 

And a two weeks used LG after a two minute test:

This may seem like a dumb question, especially to those of you with Samsung displays, but is there any IR in any of these pictures? The IR on my rMBP is so bad that I can't tell if I'm seeing images from my own machine or yours. That's pretty sad.

Fair enough, I suppose the colour of my photo you are seeing would depend on your screen colour hence compounding any error :)

Well I have shopped on the net looking for a 15 inch 1920 x 1200 laptop and seems most manufacturers have moved away from wuxga to full HD 1080 except for one 13 inch HP one (that would be very small text lol)

Looks like I will be sticking with the MacBook I have got, it justs adds so much more real estate on a 15 inch display.

9 days heavy use, I used the 15 min checkerboard test program, no sign of any image persistence on the grey background. So Samsung doing well so far.

You can see a relative difference when comparing side by side but you can't tell which one is correct.  You don't have a known valid reference point for eyeball purposes unless one of them has been calibrated.  A display that's too warm can make a calibrated display appear too blue.  The reverse is also true, if one of your displays is excessively cool then it will make the calibrated device seem yellow.

Unfortunately our eyes can easily play tricks on us in these matters.

Only the second image shows IR. Not the most striking example, just the normal every-day IR brought to you by Apple and LG...

I hope everyone considering buying these machines and reading this thread understands by now that the IR on these LG displays (LP154WT1-SJA1) gets worse over time. Very few people have noticed it right out of the box, but after serious testing or a few weeks of use. All the ten or so LGs I have seen have had this flaw, and all the three I have had myself have followed the same pattern. Starts out nice, but in two weeks its all over the place.

BRanger wrote:

 

You can see a relative difference when comparing side by side but you can't tell which one is correct.  You don't have a known valid reference point for eyeball purposes unless one of them has been calibrated.  A display that's too warm can make a calibrated display appear too blue.  The reverse is also true, if one of your displays is excessively cool then it will make the calibrated device seem yellow.

 

Unfortunately our eyes can easily play tricks on us in these matters.

Exactly, just the relative difference, which is why I'm not overly concerned about that. I'm much more concerned with knowing that a particular pixel that I'm seeing on my screen is actually supposed to be there. Can you imagine a doctor trying to read an X-ray image emailed to him? What about a cartographer? Totally ridiculous.

lel62 wrote:

 

I would think that Samsung is going to utilize their factories to serve their own products as opposed to Apple's product line. This is just a opinion but maybe?

Hmm, I don't know about that. I would think Samsung is under contract to deliver x amount of displays at a rate that has been previously agreed to by both parties.

zolobot wrote:

 

"I hope everyone considering buying these machines and reading this thread understands by now that the IR on these LG displays (LP154WT1-SJA1) gets worse over time."

That is so true. My IR is way worse now than it was at the beginning. That's why I think that anybody who has received a "good" LG should keep testing it, every day if necessary, to see if IR appears and/or get's worse.

REMINDER...

If you haven't done so already, please go to the Facebook page...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Apple-Please-Recall-Retina-Macbook-Pros-with-LG-Di splays/515441551804955

..."Like" it, and post a description and any good photos you have of your IR issue. If we get enough "Likes" it should really start to take off in terms of general web-visibility.

Hello Mark,

Please keep us updated on your LG screen.

Regards,

Mike

Wow that is quite a difference! But this begs the question, how are the two calibrated? Were the two calibrated or is this out of the box? Or, are the calibrations the same?