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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by MauroCL,

    MauroCL MauroCL Sep 8, 2012 12:45 PM in response to mittense
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    Sep 8, 2012 12:45 PM in response to mittense

    Something has changed at the Apple Store of my town. This time I was told to wait for month if I can because there could be a solution by then. They did recommend me not to change the display because it is most likely that I will get a LG display and run into the same IR issue.

     

    This had me a little unsettled, but I think replacing the display again in this lottery is only making things worse because the laptop will be open and open again. So I will wait as much I can handle... hoping for a final resolution.

     

    One question for those with Samsung displays, are you happy with the panel? Are you not having dead pixels? (already saw a fellow showing his dead pixel on the screen).. what about light being uniform throughout the panel?

     

    Cross finger for those waiting for new screens and laptops!

  • by PTP13,

    PTP13 PTP13 Sep 8, 2012 1:00 PM in response to mittense
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    Sep 8, 2012 1:00 PM in response to mittense

    Hello Everyone,

     

    I been following this discussion for a few days now. I first want to say that I feel sorry for does that are going through bad times with their new rMBP. I been debating about purchasing the rMBP because of the issues mentioned in this board. This would be my first Mac as I'm currently a PC user. My laptop finally died a few days ago (I'm currently typing on my iPod Touch). After a lot of thinking and reading I came to the conclusion that I might (not sure) buy one of the new 2012 MacBook Pro 15" with the following specs:

    • 2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
    • Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    • 8GB 1600MHz memory
    • 128GB Solid State Drive
    • Intel HD Graphics 4000
    • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
    • Built-in battery (7 hours)2

     

    OR

     

    2012 15" Retina MBP base model with a 16GB RAM for $2179 (with student discount)

     

    The only difference that I see with this two setups that I just mention are the following:

     

    15" rMBP:

    Better display, if I get to be one of the lucky ones with a non issue display.

    Lighter, better looking laptop ( I don't really care about this as I think weight and looks its not an issue for me)

    HDMI port

    256GB Flash Storage

    16GB RAM

    Two Thunderbolt ports

     

    15" MBP (none r):

    I can upgrade the RAM to 16GB (and maybe more in the future) when need it and take out the optical drive for a OWC SSD.

    Battery and display are cheaper to replace.

    I think, not sure, it can take more physical abuse. I'm not stating that I'm going to drop it or that the MBP is shock/drop resistant but accidents do happen and the rMBP seems more prone to get damaged easily specially the delicate display.

     

    This are the only differences that I see with the two laptops with the specs that I just mention at the same price. I'm not a rich person and I want to make sure my money is going to be well spend on a laptop that will last me at least 3 years. I figured that the rMBP is new technology that will have issues at least in the first year which hopefully will be resolved with a new rMBP model in the future. I need to make a decision by September 14 any opinions & critics are welcome. Some of the programs I will be running are Lightroom, Photoshop, Premier, among others. Video/Photo editing.

     

    Thanks and good luck to all of with the rMBP display issues.

     

    P.S. Apologies for my English.

  • by WireD64,

    WireD64 WireD64 Sep 8, 2012 1:11 PM in response to MauroCL
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    Sep 8, 2012 1:11 PM in response to MauroCL

    Some may have read i got a samsung first time round, and am absolutley happy with it. No IR, No dead pixels, No light bleed. Its absolutley awesome.

     

    Don't be put off buying one because of this thread.

  • by karolyi,

    karolyi karolyi Sep 8, 2012 2:26 PM in response to mittense
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    Sep 8, 2012 2:26 PM in response to mittense

    well, that's great. my MBP has not only the IR issue, but dead pixels too.

     

    apple, you're going to make me angry.

  • by khall330,

    khall330 khall330 Sep 8, 2012 2:27 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Sep 8, 2012 2:27 PM in response to Canuck1970

    So are you saying that I should wait to take mine back for an exchange because I may wind up with the same issue.  Or should I just take it back and wish for luck.  I figure this is iPhones big week so any announcement will not come this week ahead.

  • by Drew84,

    Drew84 Drew84 Sep 8, 2012 2:56 PM in response to mittense
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    Sep 8, 2012 2:56 PM in response to mittense

    I don't have a dog in this fight per se (I haven't purchased a rMBP yet because of this very issue and continue to nurse my aging work machine) but I've already sent a tip to Engadget and intend to send a few more messages. Apple has flaked out and left their customers high and dry, and it's time they got some negative press on this one. The squeeky wheel gets the grease...

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Sep 8, 2012 3:14 PM in response to Drew84
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    Sep 8, 2012 3:14 PM in response to Drew84

    I don't have a dog in this fight per se (I haven't purchased a rMBP yet because of this very issue and continue to nurse my aging work machine) but I've already sent a tip to Engadget and intend to send a few more messages. Apple has flaked out and left their customers high and dry, and it's time they got some negative press on this one. The squeeky wheel gets the grease...

    You don't have one, yet you are complaining, totally logical right?

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Sep 8, 2012 3:21 PM in response to WireD64
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    Sep 8, 2012 3:21 PM in response to WireD64

    Don't be put off buying one because of this thread.

     

    Very cool laptops to use, light weight, ultra high resolution screens, SSD + fast Ivy Bridge i7 quad core CPU's.  Shame a few had panel issues on various aspects, but as you said don't put one off because of this thread.

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Sep 8, 2012 3:40 PM in response to johns1
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    Sep 8, 2012 3:40 PM in response to johns1

    johns1 wrote:

     

    Don't be put off buying one because of this thread.

     

    Very cool laptops to use, light weight, ultra high resolution screens, SSD + fast Ivy Bridge i7 quad core CPU's.  Shame a few had panel issues on various aspects, but as you said don't put one off because of this thread.

     

    Personally, I think a better message would be: "Don't be put off buying a Macbook Pro with Retina display...but wait for bit".

     

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  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Sep 8, 2012 4:09 PM in response to Drew84
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    Sep 8, 2012 4:09 PM in response to Drew84

    I don't have a dog in this fight per se (I haven't purchased a rMBP yet because of this very issue and continue to nurse my aging work machine) but I've already sent a tip to Engadget and intend to send a few more messages. Apple has flaked out and left their customers high and dry, and it's time they got some negative press on this one. The squeeky wheel gets the grease...

     

    After three LGs (with their inherent IR issue) I opted for refund. Upgrading the old MBP with SSD to make it last a while longer.

     

    My suggestion to any prospective customers is to hold on until this problem is addressed.

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Sep 8, 2012 4:35 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Sep 8, 2012 4:35 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Personally, I think a better message would be: "Don't be put off buying a Macbook Pro with Retina display...but wait for bit".

    Like you waited, eh? 

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Sep 8, 2012 4:44 PM in response to johns1
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    Sep 8, 2012 4:44 PM in response to johns1

    johns1 wrote:

     

    Personally, I think a better message would be: "Don't be put off buying a Macbook Pro with Retina display...but wait for bit".

    Like you waited, eh? 

     

    Yeah...well...lesson learned, let me tell ya. I just don't want anyone else to make the same mistake I did. I will NEVER be an early adopter again. And, with regards to the new iPhone 5 coming out next week, I'm going to watch the forums for at least a month before I buy one.

     

  • by bjiibj,

    bjiibj bjiibj Sep 8, 2012 4:47 PM in response to johns1
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    Sep 8, 2012 4:47 PM in response to johns1

    johns1 wrote:

     

    I'm guessing you don't have one or both of them anymore.  How long did you have them?

     

    Hi bjiibj, no I still have the 2.6/16/256 MBPr , don't have the 2.3/8/256 MBPr as I negotated a upgrade when they open the base model to all options. 

     

    Still doing OK with the week 33 LG panel. 

     

    Well as far as I can tell, you're the only poster whose been around a while with LG displays and has not had IR develop.  We've had a bunch of people also post about no IR on LG but from what I could tell most of them had very new units that wouldn't have developed it yet.

     

    To be honest, it makes me want to question whether you are accurately checking for IR (it can be subtle), but you seem like a smart person who would be able to tell if you really had it.  So I guess the only conclusion to be drawn is that there are LG panels that are not affected; but for posters on this forum, that certainly looks to be uncommon.

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Sep 8, 2012 4:57 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Sep 8, 2012 4:57 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Yeah...well...lesson learned, let me tell ya. I just don't want anyone else to make the same mistake I did. I will NEVER be an early adopter again. And, with regards to the new iPhone 5 coming out next week, I'm going to watch the forums for at least a month before I buy one.

     

    Can't say i blame you, but hope the next go around goes easy on you.

  • by alwaysforever,

    alwaysforever alwaysforever Sep 8, 2012 5:00 PM in response to mittense
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    Sep 8, 2012 5:00 PM in response to mittense

    Sorry to butt in this thread again. I'm curious, though...

     

    Apple must have known that this was going to happen. Did they think that people wouldn't notice the defect? Or wouldn't mind?

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