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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Oct 7, 2012 2:52 PM in response to Speedbug
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    Oct 7, 2012 2:52 PM in response to Speedbug

    Speedbug wrote:

     

    "I've my doubts about the value of opening the chassis not knowing whether or not getting a Display that meets my expectations"

     

    They replace the entire lid of the rMBP laptop when they do the replacement. I think it's actually pretty simple for a trained tech to do with minimum disruption to your machine. Trust me when I tell you that my new Samsung display is much better than the LG that was originally installed in it...and NO image retention. I don't know how bad your IR problem is, but I do know that mine got worse over time until it easily showed up on normal deskrop wallpaper. It's not acceptable.

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Oct 7, 2012 3:08 PM in response to gam3r
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    Oct 7, 2012 3:08 PM in response to gam3r

    gam3r wrote:

     

    "Just out of curiosity for people who got display replacements done did apple handle MacBook properly without scratching?"

     

    Mine came back just as blemish-free as it went in. In fact, it came back cleaner. I took my rMBP to a very reputable authorized Apple dealer who's repair department was certified for replacing Retina displays. They ordered my display on a Wednesday, called me on the Thursday to tell me it had arrived, I dropped my rMBP off with them at 9:30am on the Friday morning and picked it up at about noon. The repairman told me it took less than an hour to replace the display and the remainder of the time was spent testing it. I left the store very happy with the work they'd done.

     

    Here are the key points, for me at least:

     

    1. The establishment that did the repair is part of a small chain of stores with a really good reputation for top-notch customer service
    2. It was NOT an Apple Store
  • by mark1325,

    mark1325 mark1325 Oct 7, 2012 3:12 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Oct 7, 2012 3:12 PM in response to Canuck1970

    I have been hanging around this thread since about page 60. I ordered 1st rMacBook Pro in mid July and discovered IR within a week. The difficulties in making the purchase and making the return were so great that senior-level salespeople at the online business store gave me a $300 discount on my 2nd rMacBook Pro. That one unfortunately came with an extremely yellow screen. It would have been quite adequate for image processing if I was working only in sepia. My 3rd rMacBook Pro came with IR and a light bleed. Each of these 3 came with an LG screen.

     

    After having read the exploits of several contributors to this thread who have been through many exchanges (playing the lottery) I decided that I had neither the time nor the energy to play that game. So, I called my local Apple Store and asked a business store rep if I could bring in my rMacBook Pro (2.6/16/512) and check some of his top-of-the-line loaded models to see if I could find a Samsung screen. The very 1st package we opened was a Samsung screen so I said I'll take it. The store was busy and I was also purchasing AppleCare and a cable and adapter so I can understand how the rep got a bit confused. I got a charge for about $310 and took my new fully loaded MacBook home. It struck me that this transaction was very cheap. After all I spent $349 on AppleCare and my bill was $310? Then I noticed that I had not been charged for an upgrade to a 2.7 chip or the upgrade to the 768 HD. Anyway I waited a few days and checked my credit card statement online and the only charge was the $310. I realize now that I walked out of the store with $750 worth of upgrades, $350 worth of AppleCare, and a special discount of $300 for past troubles and I paid only about $300 for it. I can forgive Apple for my troubles with an $1100 discount on a $4000 machine. I tender my guilt knowing that Apple is sitting on $100 billion in profits.

     

    Anyway, it's a week 38 with a perfect Samsung screen. The white point is perfect at 6500. Nothing loose, nothing scratched and nothing rattling and no screen flaws are apparent to me at this time.

     

    So here's my advice…. hang in there and you might get lucky.

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Oct 7, 2012 3:16 PM in response to mark1325
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    Oct 7, 2012 3:16 PM in response to mark1325

    mark1325 wrote:

     

    "So here's my advice…. hang in there and you might get lucky"

     

    Amen brutha!

     

  • by Danny Swish,

    Danny Swish Danny Swish Oct 7, 2012 3:20 PM in response to mark1325
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    Oct 7, 2012 3:20 PM in response to mark1325

    "Hang in there and you might get lucky"

     

    Holy sh*t! We might get lucky in terms of getting a good display, but getting $1100 bucks worth of upgrades/coverage for FREE? You may as well have won the lottery.

     

    I'm starting to wonder if naming my dog "Lucky" has somehow been sapping away all of the luck from me...

  • by frocco,

    frocco frocco Oct 7, 2012 5:18 PM in response to Danny Swish
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    Oct 7, 2012 5:18 PM in response to Danny Swish

    I have the LG screen, but am not able to see IR.

    What is the best test to do?

    I cannot find a checkerboard image large enough to fill the screen.

    I have the background set to dark grey.

     

    Thanks

  • by Danny Swish,

    Danny Swish Danny Swish Oct 7, 2012 5:28 PM in response to frocco
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    Oct 7, 2012 5:28 PM in response to frocco

    If you don't see any problems, then be grateful and let it be. No reason to look for a problem if one is not apparent.

     

    If one day you DO notice it when doing normal average activities, then you can worry about a replacement. You're covered for 1 year after purchase (assuming you didn't spring for the additional 3 year coverage.)

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Oct 7, 2012 5:34 PM in response to frocco
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    Oct 7, 2012 5:34 PM in response to frocco

    frocco wrote:

     

    I have the LG screen, but am not able to see IR.

    What is the best test to do?

    I cannot find a checkerboard image large enough to fill the screen.

    I have the background set to dark grey.

     

    Thanks

     

    Download this: http://www.mediafire.com/?1jwh6o6ql1wmiww

  • by johns1,

    johns1 johns1 Oct 7, 2012 7:15 PM in response to Danny Swish
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    Oct 7, 2012 7:15 PM in response to Danny Swish

     

    If you don't see any problems, then be grateful and let it be. No reason to look for a problem if one is not apparent.

     

    +1

  • by braw,

    braw braw Oct 7, 2012 7:39 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 7, 2012 7:39 PM in response to mittense

    I wanted to throw in my experience. My original screen was LG, and I noticed the image retention before even knowing the term. I got it replaced with another LG, and there was still image retention. I just got my machine back after another replacement, and this time I have a Samsung screen, with no signs of image retention at all.

     

    The only observation I will offer is that while it was a bummer to have to get my screen replaced twice, the process was fast and the employees I dealt with were straight to the point. I did go in with the IR test app up and a demonstration ready to go. There was no trying to explain it away as a normal artifact of IPS displays, or running a bunch of tests. Both times, the screen was in the next day, and the repair was done the same day.

  • by Danny Swish,

    Danny Swish Danny Swish Oct 7, 2012 8:02 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Oct 7, 2012 8:02 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Canuck1970 wrote:

     

    YourGuide wrote:

     

    Yup.... 661-7171 and is a Samsung according to Terminal command.

    Cool. It's looking pretty promising. Every single 661-7171 part has been a Samsung...so far.

    I'm quoting this from a few pages back to remind everybody that this seems pretty solid. If you are getting a screen replacement and the part number is #661-7171, it's probably a Samsung. If it's #661-XXXX (I forget), then you got an LG. Everybody, please post your part orders here and your manufacturers if you got your screen replaced.

  • by braw,

    braw braw Oct 7, 2012 8:10 PM in response to Danny Swish
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    Oct 7, 2012 8:10 PM in response to Danny Swish

    My part number was 661-7171 and the hardware id starts with LSN.

  • by JDThree,

    JDThree JDThree Oct 7, 2012 8:43 PM in response to braw
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    Oct 7, 2012 8:43 PM in response to braw

    Per the apple rep when I was getting my replacement ordered on Wednesday, that part number is not manufacturer specific, that they have no way to specifically order a Samsung screen.  He said on other IR replacement work, they've gotten both LG and Samsung monitors with that part number, so he made it very clear to me that I may not get a Samsung replacement screen, as the previous rMBP that had a replacement screen received an LG...

     

    Seems pretty dumb to me if they really cannot specifically order one manufacturer's product...

  • by Danny Swish,

    Danny Swish Danny Swish Oct 7, 2012 8:47 PM in response to braw
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    Oct 7, 2012 8:47 PM in response to braw

    Yupp, that's Samsung.

     

    Part #661-7171=Samsung

     

    LSN=Samsung

     

    I think they were lying to you, or are misinformed, JD. Unless someone wants to prove me wrong?

  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Oct 7, 2012 9:30 PM in response to frocco
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    Oct 7, 2012 9:30 PM in response to frocco

    I have the LG screen, but am not able to see IR.

    What is the best test to do?

    I cannot find a checkerboard image large enough to fill the screen.

    I have the background set to dark grey.

     

    Thanks

     

    Since it's LG, IR will unquestionably show up. It's inherent to LG AH-IPS.

     

    If you are within 14 days, return. Get another one. You remain the boss as you are in control of your money.

     

    If you are past 14 days, then just wait until it gets bad enough to pass the Apple IR test. Then ask for repair and hopefully you'll get a Samsung.

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