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  • 4,620. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Stanigu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It shows week 39....maybe I just go lucky, since it appears that other people with rMBP with later production dates got LG screen.

  • 4,621. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    joekljk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Barry Fisher wrote:

     

     

    As to getting Samsungs, let me ask is everyone enjoying their yellow tinted Samsung monitors?  If you need a laptop, there are quite simple work arounds. If you are in Aperture, or Lightroom, you can lighten the background. You can do other things.  You can do as you please, it still hasn't seemed to solve the problem. I will wait until I know the problem is settled, and if I need to replace my screen I will do it then once and for all.  You can get 10 new screens if you want, I'll just be working.

     

    How many Samsung's with yellow tint have you had Barry? I have personally only had one Samsung screen, no yellow tint at all, when I calibrated my screen I was happy to see my native white point of 6509 was perfect. The whites are white and there is no IR.

     

    As far as LG I had 3 of those all different in quality and brightness. One was pink with IR, one 2-3 bars darker in brightness with IR, and one perfect LG with horrible IR 2 months in to the point of leaving anything on myscreen I had up for seconds not minutes.

  • 4,622. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    danielwerner Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I don't know what to do here. I really want a Retina Macbook Pro, but I'm not up to arguing with the support to get my unit replaced several times.

     

    So basically you can get a LG with potential IR and other problems (and if you don't have it at the beginning it could develop over time) or a Samsung with potential dead pixels and yellow/pink tints (which also could develop over time).

     

    How the **** shall I do to get myself a rMBP which will work the following 2-3 years?!

     

    Also, could we stop talking about the temperatures? That's a different discussion.

  • 4,623. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    J.K. ROFLing Level 4 Level 4 (1,220 points)

    At the risk of being labeled a troll again, you have to take what you see here with a grain of salt, Daniel. If we were to assume that every post here was by a different person (and this isn't the case by a long shot), we are talking about a small minority of purchasers. Yes, there are some bad displays out there, but reading the posts here what people consider as "defective" varies. Some demand absolutly NO image retention, while others are fine with a few seconds.

     

    But the thing to take away from this is, that despite the claims of the more vociferious here, this isn't a problem with 100% of the rMBPs and your chances of getting a good display are actually pretty good, unless you are one of the anal retentitive perfectionists who demand a 0 sec. retention.

     

    FWIW, I put the test image up on my iMac display out of curiosity and was looking at it and then looked at the wall...OMG, I saw the image for several seconds...I would see about warranty work on my eyes, but I guess at 55 years, I am out of warranty.

  • 4,624. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    danielwerner Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, you  have a point there. But my fear is that close to 100% of at least the LG displays (which seems to be more common) has these problems, and the only reason not every customer has reported it is that they either don't know about this forum or are simply inexperienced tech-wise.

     

    Personally, I don't think I'd care about 1 sec of IR, but my other fear is that after I read this thread, it'll disturb me much more. Ignorance is truly bliss.

  • 4,625. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    joekljk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Canuck1970 wrote:

     

    joekljk wrote:

     

    "Going to do a SMC reset to see if that helps since the latest SMC update"

     

    Please tell us your results after the SMC reset.

     

    To confirm its leftside Shift-Control-Option + Power at same time right?

     

    I went and did the SMC reset, haven't noticed any difference. I am able to get up to 90C and the fans still do not kick up past 2100RPM??? Can anyone else test their machines to see what temp the fans kick on for them?

     

    Okay wow just hit 100C, fans dont kick on until 95C. That is scary and not good.

  • 4,626. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    J.K. ROFLing wrote:

     

    "If we were to assume that every post here was by a different person (and this isn't the case by a long shot), we are talking about a small minority of purchasers."

     

    That's B.S. The ASC forum admins track IP addresses, so unless you're suggesting that most of the people on here have time to mess around creating multiple identities, your point is moot. Additionally, I've communicated with a lot of these same people in different places and I assure you they're not using multiple identities to make the problem seem more serious than it is.

     

    J.K. ROFLing wrote:

     

    "FWIW, I put the test image up on my iMac display out of curiosity and was looking at it and then looked at the wall...OMG, I saw the image for several seconds...I would see about warranty work on my eyes, but I guess at 55 years, I am out of warranty.

     

    You can't be serious. I, and several people on this thread, have mentioned several times to NOT look at the checkerboard before you remove the image from your display.

     

    FOR EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS THREAD...

     

    Don't listen to J.K. ROFLing. He's either an uber-Apple fanboy OR an Apple engineer who's afraid of losing his job...or he's simply a 55-year old guy who has nothing better to do with his time than pester the honest consumers on this thread.

  • 4,627. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    joekljk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

     

    J.K. ROFLing wrote:

     

    At the risk of being labeled a troll again

     

    Trollllolololol

  • 4,628. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    danielwerner wrote:

     

    "Also, could we stop talking about the temperatures? That's a different discussion".

     

    It's related. A member on this thread discovered some time ago that he could increase and decrease the image retention issue based on temperature. Others validated this as well.

  • 4,629. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    rrahimi Level 3 Level 3 (615 points)

    At the risk of being labeled a troll again...

     

    Ah! The troll is back for attention. In your case it's interest, not risk.

  • 4,630. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    J.K. ROFLing wrote:

     

    "But the thing to take away from this is, that despite the claims of the more vociferious here, this isn't a problem with 100% of the rMBPs and your chances of getting a good display are actually pretty good, unless you are one of the anal retentitive perfectionists who demand a 0 sec. retention."

     

    That's funny that you should mention that, because my Samsung display has 0 seconds of image retention. Imagine that? But, again, I did pay extra for that...oh wait, no I didn't.

     

  • 4,631. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    J.K. ROFLing Level 4 Level 4 (1,220 points)

    If this was even a problem with even 20% of the LG displays, the story would be about the shortage of computers and replacement displays because Apple would have removed the LG displays from the mfg and repair channels. Despite what many on here would have us believe, I would bet the "problem displays" are less than 2% and even as a percentage of LGs, the number probably doesn't hit 5%. And again, it will depend on your definition of "defective", 1 sec, 5 sec or 15 sec of image retention. From what I have seen, Apples test seems to be something like 3 min of image on screen and 1 min retention, which I find fairly reasonable, because I seldom have a screen stationary for 3 min and even when I do, the retained image is usually so faint as to be overshadowed by whatever image I have on at the time. I can't remember the last time I had my display on a plain grey background...

  • 4,632. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    rrahimi Level 3 Level 3 (615 points)

    I don't know what to do here. I really want a Retina Macbook Pro, but I'm not up to arguing with the support to get my unit replaced several times.

     

    So basically you can get a LG with potential IR and other problems (and if you don't have it at the beginning it could develop over time) or a Samsung with potential dead pixels and yellow/pink tints (which also could develop over time).

     

    How the **** shall I do to get myself a rMBP which will work the following 2-3 years?!

     

    Also, could we stop talking about the temperatures? That's a different discussion.

     

    My suggestion is to stay within 14 days. That way you won't have to argue with support/sales people. The policy is No Questions Asked. Don't fall for J.K. Trolling's comment or you would be stuck with a $2500 defective laptop.

     

    On a related note, even Apple admits this is a feature of their Retinas (Samsungs somehow excluded). That's gotta really bug the little few trolls we have around here.

  • 4,633. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Canuck1970 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    danielwerner wrote:

     

    Thanks, you  have a point there. But my fear is that close to 100% of at least the LG displays (which seems to be more common) has these problems, and the only reason not every customer has reported it is that they either don't know about this forum or are simply inexperienced tech-wise.

     

    Personally, I don't think I'd care about 1 sec of IR, but my other fear is that after I read this thread, it'll disturb me much more. Ignorance is truly bliss.

    You're correct on all points. That's why it seems that almost ALL repairs due to IR seem to be coming back as Samsung. I believe that Apple is still using the LG panels on the production line because they're counting on most people not noticing, and they're using Samsung panels for repair because they know that these customers have figured it out.

  • 4,634. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Danny Swish Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    That's B.S. The ASC forum admins track IP addresses, so unless you're suggesting that most of the people on here have time to mess around creating multiple identities, your point is moot. Additionally, I've communicated with a lot of these same people in different places and I assure you they're not using multiple identities to make the problem seem more serious than it is.

     

    Uh, I'm pretty sure he was talking about how people have posted multiple replies on this thread, not that they've been making separate accounts...