Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

It doesn't surpise me that the command doesn't work on the new 13 inch. They don't have a dedcited graphics card so the registry isn't going to be the same, and I doubt they would work like the Mac Airs. The command is really just basicly a grep based on a really janky REGEX anyway I think.....

I am still blown anyway that this hasn't been addressed and they are moving forward with the line. Have had my Samsung screen now for a while, not a single issue with it and no IR and better color then all 4 LG screens I delt with. I don't get how LG can get away with making a screen so far below the quality one would think Apple would enforce....

Sorry,a bit offtopic,

Can you guys check your rMBA's and do you have any slight bending like I have? I mean the left corner lifts up a bit. I don't know if it is the screen that is bend or the computer itself. It was like this out of the box but decided to live with it. If I am extreme nitpicking and whining, please don't have mercy with me and tell me that as well. I can take it

My screen start to show more IR as well. a few minutes with my CAD program and static toolbar and I can see my whole drawing on a darker webpage. However it dissapear for 90% in a minute and a residue stays behind for longer. Since Bangkok doesn't have a genius bar, I don't know where to bring it for screen replacement. Also I am still in my 14 days, But sad to say I really need the computer since I am assigned to a big project just this week I can't return it sadly enough.

How do you check on the 13" rMBP? I'm thinking of buying one but need to be able to make sure I get a Samsung display.

On one hand the internet is a blessing.. all those times doing stuff (particularly on windows) where you need a hand with all the technical stuff and some champion has it all sorted.. great stuff.

On the other hand.. for the first time in my life the internet has shown me how bad people can complain.

I mean some people are down right offended at the screen showing ghosting. Or how the Screen sits a mm off. Or how their phone shows a dot. Or how their screen bends a mm.

Its just getting ridiuclous. Android, Apple you name it - so much ******** about non trivial things.

I dont care if you dont agree.. but seriously.. just dont buy it if you dont like, or if you like it, return the item and get another one.. but hey what do I know.. lets take this 350 page thread another 350 and crack 700.

I fully understand where people are coming from but is this long *** thread the right approach? Just make a petition online or something and leave the ******** for that. Short and simple. Or just return it.

Reason I say this.. I remember when my GF got her MacBook Air.. we used it, always loved the laptop and never had a problem. it was only when coming on here.. I realised I have to "check the screen" for what brand it is. Then it was what SSD it was. It just never ends. Stop killing peoples lives about this garbage..

PS It had samsungs for both.. but honestly who cares..

But yeah with all this information, its hard for people not to care, and I appreciate people wanting the absolute best.. but I cant say any laptop I have ever bought.. Sony Vaio Z, Acer, Dell XPS or EEePC has ever faced a 10th of the scrutiny the Apple gets.. and what, because it costs more in some cases by 30%? (it still costs less than the sony)..

For me, the point is that some displays are close to perfect (Samsung) and some show extensive ghosting (LG). For over 3000 dollars, you should expect THE BEST. Every single time.

Personally I don't care if there are some seconds of ghosting. But many of these issues are far more than a few seconds. I mean, come on. Ghosting appears after a minute or two, and sticks to the screen for several minutes? That isn't a 3000 dollar screen.

I live in Russia. We don't have official Apple service, only authorised service providers. To get repair I have to wait for 40 days of expertize, than another month while the repair part comes and the result could be the same if they put LPxxxxx display. This makes me sad. There's no option to bring it back and get refund as well as replace it with a new one.

Also service is very bad. I received my previous MBP disassembled from the service when they fixed speaked. I don't know why, but it was in box and screws were packed separately. What they said was "oops, we don't know how that happened". Also I'm not sure how good they do the work.

I want good product out of the box. And I'm ready to pay for that 2500 euros and more. But display ghosts that appear in a minute (!!!) and lasts for at least a couple of minutes are unacceptable.

So probably I'll try to repair my rMBP during some trip to country with Apple Store.

Here's the barometer most people should use for this issue... If you came to this forum BECAUSE you saw ghosting on your Macbook and it bothered you, then yes, it's probably bad enough to warrant fixing. Same with the yellow tinge on the old 2009 iMac 27s.

However, if you stumbled across this thread for a different reason, ran some extended test and THEN discovered the ghosting issue and are now convinced you have to go on a 23 exchange journey to find a perfect Samsung screen... you probably have bigger problems than ghosting on your computer.

I've made simple webpage that allows you to test if there is any problem with your screen.

Just go to the page http://iva-soft.com/gray/ and wait while the timer goes to zero. After that background become gray and you can check if there is any IR effect.

Also you can pause/resume the test at any time and check how fast ghosts appear and disappear on your screen.

Done the test. slight IR but dissapears in less then 30 seconds. So not so bad I supose

I.V.A. wrote:

 

I've made simple webpage that allows you to test if there is any problem with your screen.

Just go to the page http://iva-soft.com/gray/ and wait while the timer goes to zero. After that background become gray and you can check if there is any IR effect.

 

Also you can pause/resume the test at any time and check how fast ghosts appear and disappear on your screen.

Good, what display code? LPxxxxxx or LSNxxxxxxx?

For me about the same results on LP (probably LG display). Thought chessboard completely disappears in about two minutes. I am curious if the problem becomes worse over time.

My screen is an LG:

Color LCD

LP154WT1-SJA1

DCN239102JZF49KAJ

However it is trully amazing. Amazing black's and whites, and zero dead pixels.

If it get worse, I don't know, but believing the forum members (and there is no reason not to believe them) yes it will get worse over time.

In my case, I am designing all day with a static screen toolbar in a CAD program, so IR always shows up when switching to a website. (I can litterally see my full drawed electronic schematics on the website browser, any background from blue to grey) However for now, it dissapears also very fast in less then a minute. If it stays like this I am fine with it. If it reach a point it stays long, then I be not fine.

My idea is this, if IR does indeed get progressive worse, by then not just us but many people will complain, and then it will even fail Apple's test. So by then we will get a screen replacement. Only time will tell....

Since I am an electronic designer myself I know from experience if indeed something get progressive worse (in semiconductor or component failure), there is no end on that. Means it will reach a point that it get unacceptable. Again, only time will tell.

I.V.A. wrote:

 

Good, what display code? LPxxxxxx or LSNxxxxxxx?

 

For me about the same results on LP (probably LG display). Thought chessboard completely disappears in about two minutes. I am curious if the problem becomes worse over time.

nice webpage. for me it takes 15 sec for ir to apear

Chivote wrote:

nice webpage. for me it takes 15 sec for ir to apear

Thanks. I decided to make webpage to have some common thing for testing. So we can see some statistics.

Do you have LG (LPxxxxxxxx) display?

On my LG I see very slight IR after 15 seconds that is visible only on dark gray background (on medium gray it's almost not visible) and the effect disappears in about 20 seconds. After 5 mins IR stays for 2-3 minutes on screen.

Great site.

Could you perhaps implement some kind of simple poll system, where users could vote yes or no about whether they have IR or not. Or just a comment form or something.

This thread says pretty much, but what the community lacks is a big poll where it says in print how many users have these problems.

Just a thought.

Done the test. Stopped at 2:30 and 1:00 mark as well and no IR signs on either dark or light gray nor after switching to another app.  Have LG screen, week 41 production, in use 2.5 weeks primarily for work.