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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by Nqjudo,

    Nqjudo Nqjudo Oct 28, 2012 3:29 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2012 3:29 PM in response to mittense

    I got to it before it was removed and did a foreword to about 200 people. Apple can't hide from this one. People are starting to take notice. I've already discouraged a couple of people from making the jump to retina.

  • by RoozbehB,

    RoozbehB RoozbehB Oct 28, 2012 3:55 PM in response to RoozbehB
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    Oct 28, 2012 3:55 PM in response to RoozbehB

    This is not freedom of speech!! Apple cannot withstand to face the truth. It is like a dictatorship here!! I don't know what the forum admins are thinking!! Resetting the forum viewers from 470k to zero is like assuming all those viewers were unvalued and they don't care about what people think and they just want to hide the truth!!! I've started hating apple little by little!!

  • by SitaCh,

    SitaCh SitaCh Oct 28, 2012 3:57 PM in response to RoozbehB
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    Oct 28, 2012 3:57 PM in response to RoozbehB

    You're right about the count. Unbelievable. That is really crappy.

     

    I also have now decided to wait before buying based on this issue. I was hoping the 13" would be good but it isn't.

     

    It'd be cool if a whole lot of people who are not buying based on this issue would post that fact on here.

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:00 PM in response to RoozbehB
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:00 PM in response to RoozbehB

    Nobody's stopping anyone from speaking out freely. It's just disallowing content in a moderated discussions forum with a Terms of Service agreement.

  • by RoozbehB,

    RoozbehB RoozbehB Oct 28, 2012 4:05 PM in response to srhwang
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:05 PM in response to srhwang

    How about the forum count? why they want to lower the number of people who have viewed this problem? Doesn't that mean that they are afraid of their 13" selling rate? come on!! these are some obvious facts that apple tries to run away from so that they can just sell more of their crappy retina displays to people who don't know about this issue! by lowering the number of viewers from half a million to zero they just wanna prove that only a bunch of people who had this problem kept nagging and replying 5200 times among themselves and the problem is not widespread which is absolutely not true!!!

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:07 PM in response to srhwang
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:07 PM in response to srhwang

    Further, I find it pointless to attempt to get a giant corporation to change their business tactics, those that yield the most profit for themselves. You might as well not waste your time and either return/refund or not purchase their products.

     

    Like someone mentioned earlier, I don't find it quite appropriate to deliberately convince people not to buy a product with user-defined "problem" that may not even be a problem to these people. It's only a problem if it's a problem to the person, no? Ie.) Most may not find a problem with their hair or clothes, but if it distresses me nevertheless, it is still a problem. To me.

     

    If one doesn't even notice the IR or mura and tinting, with normal everyday use, but only finds it when he/she comes across this thread, it probably wasn't a problem from the beginning, no?

     

    Just my 2 cents.

  • by playdrv4me,

    playdrv4me playdrv4me Oct 28, 2012 4:08 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:08 PM in response to mittense

    No one that matters looks at this silly discussion. I assure you, there must have been a far more mundane reason for them to reset the view count.

     

    I'm following this purely out of entertainment value now.

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:10 PM in response to RoozbehB
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:10 PM in response to RoozbehB

    Whoa there with the hasty generalization.

     

    We may not know if Apple deliberately reduced the count. I'm not even sure if resetting the count on a thread is even possible. For all we know, the thread's view count just reached a cap and reset to 0. Obviously 700 views with 6000 replies is not very smart of them.

     

    RoozbehB wrote:

     

    How about the forum count? why they want to lower the number of people who have viewed this problem? Doesn't that mean that they are afraid of their 13" selling rate? come on!! these are some obvious facts that apple tries to run away from so that they can just sell more of their crappy retina displays to people who don't know about this issue! by lowering the number of viewers from half a million to zero they just wanna prove that only a bunch of people who had this problem kept nagging and replying 5200 times among themselves and the problem is not widespread which is absolutely not true!!!

  • by RoozbehB,

    RoozbehB RoozbehB Oct 28, 2012 4:13 PM in response to srhwang
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:13 PM in response to srhwang

    you are one of those 500k viewers who are neglected by the company that you worship!! If there was not a problem they wouldn't accept to change the display. If there was not a problem they wouldn't be afraid by the number of people who have viewed this page. This way they are pushing themselves out of the first pages of google search and people might not know the problem exist and they continue buying overpriced crappy retina displays! I've read a guy had sold his kidney to buy a rMBP and turns out to be defective!! please at least respect the people who understand and searched for this forum and spent time reading it. not to disregard them!! these are the customers and customers rule in the business!

  • by Yaronfr,

    Yaronfr Yaronfr Oct 28, 2012 4:14 PM in response to SitaCh
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:14 PM in response to SitaCh

    I just returned my 3rd 15" rMBP on Friday. Unfortunately while this time I lucked out and got a Samsung display, the chassis kept making loud squeaking sounds which sounded more like a cheap $250 Acer than a $2200 all aluminum MBP (and much worse than my 2007 plastic MBP which been through ****).  I decided to try the 13" rMBP but after using it for 2 days I am afraid it will not work for me so it is going back. I really do need an 15" rMBP and really want to give Apple $2200 of my hard earned money but my trust in AppleCare to do the right thing eventually and replace displays with IR it is all gone now and yea, resetting the statistics to have this thread draw less attention certainly doesn't help...

  • by playdrv4me,

    playdrv4me playdrv4me Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM in response to Yaronfr
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM in response to Yaronfr

    Mine does the squeak thing also. It's the base-plate, which was cut just a smidge to large, rubbing against the sides of the unibody depending on how it flexes. Sometimes depending on how I position/hold the laptop the flex in the chassis also causes the touch-pad to become somewhat difficult to press.

     

    Oh well, first world problems. I'm sure the Chinese workers that live, eat and breathe just to build our precious Apple products would love to hear of these concerns.

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM in response to RoozbehB
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM in response to RoozbehB

    Again with the silly assumptions. I find my "crappy retina display" pretty good except for the tinting. Even with IR it still looked pretty nice to me. The machine itself runs solidly, and is beautiful, slim, light, but powerful. Sure the displays were a problem and it annoyed me alot (went through four displays), but I don't think it justifies the whole product being called "crappy." We all pay a premium for Apple products, so I'm used to the "overpricing" if you may call it that.

     

    I still find it silly that complaining and raging on a discussion thread in attempts to attract attention to anyone in order to hopefully get Apple to change their ways is pointless. These guys don't run on moral ethics, nor does most other gigantic corporations.

     

    Lastly, resetting view count doesn't remove it from "first pages of google search." Googling "Retina macbook pro problems" still shows this thread on first page.

    RoozbehB wrote:

     

    you are one of those 500k viewers who are neglected by the company that you worship!! If there was not a problem they wouldn't accept to change the display. If there was not a problem they wouldn't be afraid by the number of people who have viewed this page. This way they are pushing themselves out of the first pages of google search and people might not know the problem exist and they continue buying overpriced crappy retina displays! I've read a guy had sold his kidney to buy a rMBP and turns out to be defective!! please at least respect the people who understand and searched for this forum and spent time reading it. not to disregard them!! these are the customers and customers rule in the business!

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:23 PM in response to playdrv4me
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:23 PM in response to playdrv4me

    That it being a "first world problem" still doesn't really justify that a high-end product should be left faulty. If it squeaks, it squeaks; it is repairable so anyone with the problem should take it in for a repair. Just because people in Africa are starving does not mean we should eat more, for them, and get fatter.

    playdrv4me wrote:

     

    Mine does the squeak thing also. It's the base-plate, which was cut just a smidge to large, rubbing against the sides of the unibody depending on how it flexes. Sometimes depending on how I position/hold the laptop the flex in the chassis also causes the touch-pad to become somewhat difficult to press.

     

    Oh well, first world problems. I'm sure the Chinese workers that live, eat and breathe just to build our precious Apple products would love to hear of these concerns.

  • by playdrv4me,

    playdrv4me playdrv4me Oct 28, 2012 4:26 PM in response to srhwang
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:26 PM in response to srhwang

    What, so now I should use MY precious time, which is worth a considerable amount, to chase down these small problems and keep exchanging laptops/being disappointed when they aren't perfect? Having to migrate my data every single time, OR being without my machine while someone attempts to "fix" it.

     

    No thanks.

  • by srhwang,

    srhwang srhwang Oct 28, 2012 4:29 PM in response to playdrv4me
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    Oct 28, 2012 4:29 PM in response to playdrv4me

    I said you should, not you're required. No one's obligated to do anything, but I'm saying it is a problem that is in fact repairable. I recall someone with this problem had theirs fixed just by tightening the bottom screws.

    playdrv4me wrote:

     

    What, so now I should use MY precious time, which is worth a considerable amount, to chase down these small problems and keep exchanging laptops/being disappointed when they aren't perfect? Having to migrate my data every single time, OR being without my machine while someone attempts to "fix" it.

     

    No thanks.

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