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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by andiruleu,

    andiruleu andiruleu Dec 17, 2012 5:04 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Dec 17, 2012 5:04 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Canuck1970 wrote:

     

     

    Try taking it to a certified Apple store that's NOT an Apple Store.

     

    I'm a little skeptical on this issue... Correct me if I'm wrong, but stores that are only certified to sell Apple products can have a completely different policy than the actual Apple store. What happens if later down the road, that display isn't what you expected and that the store has some kind of 30 day policy or something? And then they wouldn't fix it, and you'll have to go to the Apple store, and they'll inform you that since you got it replaced somewhere else, you'd have to pay extra or something...

  • by ixdnl,

    ixdnl ixdnl Dec 17, 2012 5:24 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Dec 17, 2012 5:24 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Seriously. When she said that I nearly scoffed, which wouldn't help my case.

     

    If I bought the Macbook at an Apple store would I be able to take it to any retailer I find on Apple's store locator as long it's indicated as a shop, specialist, or premium?

  • by Aceattack,

    Aceattack Aceattack Dec 17, 2012 6:35 PM in response to andiruleu
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    Dec 17, 2012 6:35 PM in response to andiruleu

    FYI,

     

    Repair at Apple Certified Centers is considered exactly the same as at the Apple Store. Meaning that it has no effect on warranty/Apple Care.

     

    Here in Berlin we only have Apple Certified because shockingly we have no Apple Store yet

  • by mmorett,

    mmorett mmorett Dec 17, 2012 7:25 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Dec 17, 2012 7:25 PM in response to Canuck1970

     

    "you sacrifice the risk of image retention for visual clarity"

     

     

    Can we get the manager's full name and the store he works at?  A photo of him would be nice too. 

  • by person197,

    person197 person197 Dec 17, 2012 9:17 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 17, 2012 9:17 PM in response to mittense

    Now that I have a Samsung display, I cannot get retention even after 15 minutes with checkerboard test.  It is a night and day difference.

  • by kimmie92592,

    kimmie92592 kimmie92592 Dec 17, 2012 11:19 PM in response to person197
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    Dec 17, 2012 11:19 PM in response to person197

    Is this happening to the rmbp 13" models also!?

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Dec 17, 2012 11:43 PM in response to kimmie92592
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    Dec 17, 2012 11:43 PM in response to kimmie92592

    Yes, I have read around google that it is.  Goes to show you how far back these designs go.  They couldn't do anything about it even knowing the issue.  I would certainly wait for the next generation of product...no need to get yourself into a problem this late in the game..You will probably see the new ones in 6 to 7 months based on previous model refreshes.  I'm grateful to this thread, it saved me from getting into this lottery. 

  • by Fa_St,

    Fa_St Fa_St Dec 18, 2012 12:34 AM in response to kimmie92592
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:34 AM in response to kimmie92592

    And the new imac?

    have lcd ips technology also

    http://www.apple.com/imac/features

  • by itsamacthing,

    itsamacthing itsamacthing Dec 18, 2012 12:42 AM in response to Fa_St
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    Dec 18, 2012 12:42 AM in response to Fa_St

    Doubtful... it's using the same screen as they did last year and nobody had any issues like that.  The only difference is that they glued the screen to the glass plate on the front vs. leaving space for dust like the previous model. 

  • by Barry Fisher,

    Barry Fisher Barry Fisher Dec 18, 2012 1:29 AM in response to Jajaba
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    Dec 18, 2012 1:29 AM in response to Jajaba

    I'm using both. My experience has been a little counter to what most have experienced here with the LG displays. First to answer the question, no problems in either LR 4 or CS6.  Now that Adobe has added support for HiDpi they are great.  I was using Aperture before LR upgraded, but now I tend to prefer LR, both are good.

     

    I've had my MBPr since beginning of Sept.  I developed a small IR problem after about 2 weeks, but it never had any practical effect and I had to set my screen to dark grey to see it. It was not bleeding through images.  I finally got a Colormunki Display a week and a half back calibrated two monitors that match really well and hadn't really thought about IR for a while.  The retina screen takes to calibration better than the regular TN MBP screens did, gets a very good calibration and luminance levels set great.  I'm at 120 lumens.   Tonight for some reason I decided to check for it and I found that it is now almost non-existent and dissappears quite rapidly.  Before if I just had my browser on for several minutes and switched screen to dark grey I could see it, not on medium grey.  Now it's barely discernable when I go to dark grey, I mean really feint and it's gone in a few seconds.  That's even using the b/w checkerboard test.  So mine had gotten better with usage, not worse. Go figure.

     

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  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Dec 18, 2012 10:20 AM in response to Aceattack
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    Dec 18, 2012 10:20 AM in response to Aceattack

    Aceattack wrote:

     

    FYI,

     

    Repair at Apple Certified Centers is considered exactly the same as at the Apple Store. Meaning that it has no effect on warranty/Apple Care.

     

    Here in Berlin we only have Apple Certified because shockingly we have no Apple Store yet

    Exactly. When the repair is done "under warranty" it is exactly that. If something else happens down the line, and still within your warranty period, you will be covered. Basically, the certified Apple dealer that I went to had to "go to bat" for me and "persuade" Apple to allow this "one-time replacement". They were pretty confident that I would probably be getting a Samsung LCD panel as a replacement too, and this was before this started happening to everybody else too. I haven't heard of one customer since mid-September who's received an LG LCD panel as a screen replacement, only Samsung. This strengthens my suspicions that Apple has stockpiled Samsung LCD panels in their warehouses specifically for replacements due to IR.

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Dec 18, 2012 10:50 AM in response to person197
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    Dec 18, 2012 10:50 AM in response to person197

    person197 wrote:

     

    Now that I have a Samsung display, I cannot get retention even after 15 minutes with checkerboard test.  It is a night and day difference.

     

    I had some software running the other day that, unbeknownst to me, prevented my display from switching to the screensaver or going to sleep. So, it displayed the same static high-contrast image for 4 hours before I noticed. The result? Nothing. Not even a tiny bit of image retention on my Samsung panel, and I used the medium gray background to check.

  • by Hoya50,

    Hoya50 Hoya50 Dec 18, 2012 7:19 PM in response to unitofpain
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    Dec 18, 2012 7:19 PM in response to unitofpain

    How would Best Buy (or any retailer) know if they had a Samsung or LG screen?  Maybe this was covered earlier in the thread so I apologize if the question has already been asked.

  • by person197,

    person197 person197 Dec 18, 2012 7:23 PM in response to Canuck1970
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    Dec 18, 2012 7:23 PM in response to Canuck1970

    Excellent!  I still can't get my Samsung to have retention issues!

  • by The_Dentist,

    The_Dentist The_Dentist Dec 18, 2012 10:24 PM in response to kimmie92592
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    Dec 18, 2012 10:24 PM in response to kimmie92592

    I have a 13" MacBook Pro with retina display and it has the same image retention problem.

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