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  • Potential_Mac_User Calculating status...
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    Feb 23, 2013 6:44 PM (in response to i am ed)

    I agree, this board is about IR and should stay this way. 

    So here is my experience with the new Feb 2013 rMBP 15".  I BTO the max specs rMBP with 2.8GHz on Feb 19th and it arrived on Feb 22nd with a LG screen.  I did the check-board test for 15 min.  It had only a very faint IR visible at 50% brightness, yet still there, so after reading about the IR getting worse with time, I decided to exchange my rMBP in the local Apple Store.  I lucked out; my replacement is with the Samsung display; it is perfect, no yellow spots, no defects.  The screen is as bright as the LG, and I don't see any difference in the white colors (yet, i'm not a photographer and I don't even care about calibrating the screen).  Needles to say,  I'm very happy and no longer a Potential Mac User, I'm a mac guy, now!  Love this computer!!!

    Wish you all luck!

  • mathewcdotcom Calculating status...
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    Feb 23, 2013 7:01 PM (in response to mittense)

    Bought my refurbished MacBook Pro 15 Retina in January 2013 and have the issue. Took it to the Genius bar today and they ran a "image retention" test on it. Made a checkerboard on the screen and counted down for 4 minutes, then went grey. Confirmed the issue and it will be a 5 day turn around for a new/fix one. No arguments.

  • brooklyn.kai Calculating status...
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    Feb 23, 2013 7:49 PM (in response to mittense)

    I leave the browser window in the middle of the desktop open all the time, not maximized.

     

    I switch over to the dashboard and immediately notice the frame/outline of my browser. Light in the middle and dark on each side.

     

    You don't have to leave an image open for hours or days, because windows have the same effect.

  • brooklyn.kai Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 23, 2013 7:56 PM (in response to brooklyn.kai)

    Not to mention the menubar.

     

    Barely noticable, but it's there.

  • erotavlas Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 8:42 AM (in response to mittense)

    great i just realized i have an LG panel as well on my macbook 13" retina

     

    this command ioreg -lw0 | grep -i "DisplayVendorID"

    resulted in the ID 1552

     

    and this command ioreg -w0 -c IOHIDInterface

    yields a lot of info, but you can copy and paste the result into the texteditor and search for either LP or LSN.  I searched for both and could only find strings that started with LP (something like this LPCB@1F )

     

    The IR i have seems not to be severe, it fades after a while, but I'm wondering will it get worse later on?

  • NNEU Calculating status...
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:00 AM (in response to erotavlas)

    What the **** is wrong with you people???

     

    it has been said a hundred times !!!

     

    YES, it does get worse over time!

    NO, there is no LG panel that is not faulty!!!!

  • erotavlas Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 9:51 AM (in response to NNEU)

    Relax! there is nothing wrong with me or anyone else.    Considering the size of this thread its understandable that repeat questions will surface. Maybe you can point us to a sticky that has a summary of all relevant information for this issue and we'll stop asking repetitive questions.

  • shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 10:16 AM (in response to erotavlas)

    erotavlas wrote:


    this command ioreg -w0 -c IOHIDInterface

    yields a lot of info, but you can copy and paste the result into the texteditor and search for either LP or LSN.  I searched for both and could only find strings that started with LP (something like this LPCB@1F )

    Unfortunately, that string, LPCB@1F, isn't the screen model number. It's merely a coincidence that it has 'LP' in it.

  • erotavlas Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 10:33 AM (in response to shayster98)

    hmmm that's too bad, I wasn't sure so I just assumed that it might be the string. I found that command on StackOverflow, the other commands posted here do not work on the newer macbook retina 13" at least it doesn't on mine and I just purchased it two days ago. 

     

    Regardless perhaps the DisplayVendorID 1552 is enough info along with visible IR to conclude that you have an LG

     

    I'm curious what users with Samsung panels have as their DisplayVendorID.  

  • Jajaba Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 10:37 AM (in response to NNEU)

    @NNEU

     

    You are way out of line making blatant, factless claims that all LG displays are faulty.  We had a local photo exhibit here yesterday and 4 of the 5 locals I know with LG displays were present. None of them (plus myself) have any signs of IR or other issues with the LG displays!  Two of them pre-ordered their rMBP 15's on the initial launch day and we all have their original machines.  We are all professional photographers / printers and have a very keen eye for display image quality, any sign of IR would be very obvious to any of us.  So that's 5 for 5 on LG's with no problems.  Yes it's a small sample but it proves not all LG's have IR!

     

    On a side note; the one local photographer who returned his Samsung do to inability to calibrate an accurate whitepoint received a Samsung replacement with dead pixels and is now waiting on another replacement....  He did say the one with dead pixel calibrated well and that Apple has handled the replacement(s) without issue and they are replacing the one with dead pixels via advanced replacement.  So that's 0 for 2 on Samsungs...

  • fiorefrank Calculating status...
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    Feb 24, 2013 10:39 AM (in response to mittense)

    Hi to everybody,

    i'd like to let you know my experience.

    The first one had IR problem. It wa an LG.

    Since the first day i did test and it seem no IR but just a strange line at the border between the black and white of checkboard test but it went away soon. I did all that test at 100% briithness and i saw just that kind of strange line but for just some second so i thought i have no problem.

    I notice IR problem when i was on my sofa and the brithness was at 50%.

    I was writing a text and after that i went on a site with grey background... i saw IR!!!

    I did test and it show the problem.

    I try it  a lot of times and if brightness was 50% i was able to see IR while with 100% brithness i saw sometimes nothing and sometimes a strange horizontal line.

    So i did a test. 20 minutes os test at 50% brithness. I saw IR so i put gradually brithness to 100% and it seems that IR disappear. I repeat it and everytime while i put brithness up at 100% IR disappear.

     

    Of course when i use the notebook at home i notice it during my normal use because brithness was around 40% . 60%.

    I decide to say it to apple.

    I get a display replace. It was a Samsung

    Unfortunally it had a yellow tint on all the display and a yellow zone at bottom left.

    I remove the yellow tint on all display just calibrate the display. I get a nice white but the yellow zone was really not accettable.

    After a mounth i decide to replace it

     

    I get another Samsung with a yellow tint but it was slight and i removed it with calibration.

    So i get no yellow zone and homogeneous white color.

    About black and white i prefer LG because black was the same of the border and white seems better without screen calibration. So for the white there is a solution... but black was better on the LG display.

     

    After all i prefer Samsung for no IR. I can write something like this without pain to show IR effects that is really frustating.

     

    I hope apple will fix it because this is really a great machine... a really great one!!!

    Best hardware with thin layout and great battery... great display and it will be more than perfect!!!

  • shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 11:23 AM (in response to erotavlas)

    Nope, 1552 is the same for everyone. It's just the variable that holds the display vendor info. I can confirm this with my Samsung-made 15".

    erotavlas wrote:

     

    perhaps the DisplayVendorID 1552 is enough info along with visible IR to conclude that you have an LG

     

    I'm curious what users with Samsung panels have as their DisplayVendorID.  

  • erotavlas Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Feb 24, 2013 12:13 PM (in response to shayster98)

    seems your right, i went to the store and punched in the command on several floor models even the 15" and they all returned the same number.

     

    So how exactly are people determining the panel manufacturer. I tried several variations of the terminal command posted here and it returns nothing at all.

  • Wallacebarnes Calculating status...
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    Feb 24, 2013 2:00 PM (in response to erotavlas)

    I have an absolutely perfect 15 inch Retina Macbook Pro with an absolutely perfect Samsung screen right now, which I'm willing to part with. Does anyone wanna save themselves the hassle of playing the MB Pro retina lottery and take mine?

     

    It has no yellow tint and great color.

     

    I still have 4 days left to return it. I bought it 10 days ago, but I'd hate to return this perfect one.

     

    I've seen many samsung MB Pro retinas and LG MB Pro retinas and I guarantee you this one is perfect.

     

    It's the top of the line in all aspects: 2.8ghz 8mb L3 cache, 16 gig ram 768gb hd. All the bells and whistles.

     

    Retail+tax. Receipt included.

     

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  • wingzero1 Calculating status...
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:02 PM (in response to erotavlas)

    In terminal

     

    ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

     

    LP is LG, LSN is Samsung

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