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  • 8,445. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Chris Yates1 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    There's nothing to say that Apple have not spoken with Samsung and LG and they are now using a slightly different manufacturing process for the displays on the Haswell machines and based on some of the new responses here that would seem to be the case.

  • 8,446. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    e_pointer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey JPizzzle, same thing here. I Have an Haswell rMBP 13'', and i have also noticed that the left side have a warm colour, anyway good quality compared with the previous screen models (just a personal opinion, i could be wrong...)

  • 8,447. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    LOL are you kidding?

     

    Lets flip that around, There's NOTHING to say that apple HAVE spoken with samsung and LG.........

     

    .....and based on some of the responses here, that would be the case.

     

    What we KNOW is there's an IR problems YOU don't know that ANYTHING has been fixed. All you're doing is misleading people new to this thread by suggesting there's any evidence that's contrary to what we KNOW. Nothing has changed since October 22/13.

  • 8,448. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    It seems like there ARE new panels for the Haswell machines.

     

    LSN154YL01-A01 is different from the earlier LSN154YL01001

    LP154WT1-SJE1 has changed from LP154WT1-SJA1 (or SJA2)

     

    So I'm wondering if the revised Samsungs have less uniformity issues and more accurate color, and if the LGs have even less instances of IR compared to the SJA2 and SJA1 panels.

     

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    Also, using a ColorMunki on the same white balance and gamma settings with three iMacs and my Mid 2012 15" rMBP (with my second Samsung replacement) yielded all three iMacs looking the same and my laptop STILL looking different.

     

    Many people on this thread earlier told me that whatever the quality of the panel, the same calibrator on all screens should bring the colors together so close I wouldn't notice the difference. However, the screen on my laptop looked way different still. Now I'm more irritated again; and I don't know what to do. I didn't get an error message from the calibration software.

  • 8,449. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I guess since so many people are having to turn to colour calibrators to try and fix these defective screens, maybe Apple should start including them with there mbpr's.

  • 8,450. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Rjsm70 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Shayster98 try these steps it helped a lot with my SJA2 getting it in sync with my other monitors.

     

    Please do the following in exactly this order:

     

    Quit the ColorMunki Display application if it is running

    Reset the monitor to factory defaults if the monitor’s OSD/menu has the option

    Open “System Preferences”  

    Click on “Displays”

    For the display being profiled, click on the “Color” tab

    Uncheck the “Show profiles for this display only” option

    Select a profile called “DisplayProfile_Linear.icc” by clicking on it in the profile list.*** 

    Close the “System Preferences” window

    Launch ColorMunki Display

    Select “ColorMunki Display” from the Menu bar and then click on “Preferences”.   

    Set Display Technology type to correct setting for the display

    Unselect “Enable ADC” to disable this option

    Enable “Achieve display luminance value using video LUTs” option

    Close “Preferences”

    Profile the display using the “Advanced” mode as well as “D65” for white point and “Native” for luminance.

    If these results are good, feel free to profile again to a specific luminance level.

  • 8,451. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Colonel.Cool Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I donne think they are working on the problem. I think they are working on the next gen which Will incluse IGZO screens and get rid of the problem. It's been a year and a half they are selling défective screens so why would they care suddenly ? They Will continue until IGZO. I do think however that they are trying to use more Samsung's screen that before in order to get less return. Sadly Samsung´s screens are yellower and they get return for that too. Personnaly I would not care for that as I prefer a warm white better than IR...

  • 8,452. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    shayster98 wrote:

     

    Also, using a ColorMunki on the same white balance and gamma settings with three iMacs and my Mid 2012 15" rMBP (with my second Samsung replacement) yielded all three iMacs looking the same and my laptop STILL looking different.

     

    Many people on this thread earlier told me that whatever the quality of the panel, the same calibrator on all screens should bring the colors together so close I wouldn't notice the difference. However, the screen on my laptop looked way different still. Now I'm more irritated again; and I don't know what to do. I didn't get an error message from the calibration software.

     

    I would love to see a photograph of all 4 displays together, both before and after calibration. In my experience my Mid-2012 15" Retina MacBook Pro with Samsung replacement still looks muddy, low contrast, and unnatural after calibration.

  • 8,453. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Chris Yates1 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Do me a favour and listen to what your saying, you're a complete hipocrite. Telling me that I don't know what's what and you're suggesting exactly the opposite to me.

     

    If you learn to read more accurately you'll see I never said that I KNOW something has been fixed but rather there may have been changes.

     

    Do you have a Haswell machine to back up any of your theories so far?

     

    I have the 15" Haswell and have had 3 bad displays on my mid 2012 rMBP, for fact the Samsung is much better in these new Haswell machines, so please don't sit there and think you know it all.

     

    I'm basing the information I have on experience of the 4 displays I have now used and a few of the things that people have mentioned recently.

     

    What's your information based on? The 8,350 replies on this thread more than likely but the last 100 or so are about the new machines so please do get over yourself.

  • 8,454. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Rjsm70 wrote:

     

    Shayster98 try these steps it helped a lot with my SJA2 getting it in sync with my other monitors.

     

    Please do the following in exactly this order:

     

    Quit the ColorMunki Display application if it is running

    Reset the monitor to factory defaults if the monitor’s OSD/menu has the option

    Open “System Preferences” 

    Click on “Displays”

    For the display being profiled, click on the “Color” tab

    Uncheck the “Show profiles for this display only” option

    Select a profile called “DisplayProfile_Linear.icc” by clicking on it in the profile list.***

    Close the “System Preferences” window

    Launch ColorMunki Display

    Select “ColorMunki Display” from the Menu bar and then click on “Preferences”.  

    Set Display Technology type to correct setting for the display

    Unselect “Enable ADC” to disable this option

    Enable “Achieve display luminance value using video LUTs” option

    Close “Preferences”

    Profile the display using the “Advanced” mode as well as “D65” for white point and “Native” for luminance.

    If these results are good, feel free to profile again to a specific luminance level.

     

    Thanks! I actually did do all of that though; except the stuff in System Preferences, because your profile before calibration shouldn't affect your calibrated profile (left it on the stock Color LCD profile).

     

    I did have ADC disabled and the adjust using video LUTS option enabled. I used native for both and D55 (I didn't use D65, but the important thing is the white balance was the same on both), so it's funny that they still looked different.

  • 8,455. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Chris Yates1 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    I've heard lots about these IGZO displays and people are assuming that it will fix all the issues. Let's not forget the retina displays were new when they first came out and look at the problems they have had.

     

    Hopefully they will be fine but I wouldn't count your chickens on such a new technology.

  • 8,456. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Rjsm70 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I also did exactly what you just stated but I got a different more accurate calibration imo by selecting display instead of color lcd.  Try it and let me know if it changed anything. 

  • 8,457. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    shayster98 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Merch Visoiu wrote:

    I would love to see a photograph of all 4 displays together, both before and after calibration. In my experience my Mid-2012 15" Retina MacBook Pro with Samsung replacement still looks muddy, low contrast, and unnatural after calibration.

    Mine did look better after calibration, but I thought there was something still off with my photos. I have an uncalibrated iMac at home and it still looked a bit more natural.

     

    This was confirmed by seeing this after calibrating those iMacs in the lab and comparing it to mine. The iMacs I'm talking about are in a lab at school, and they're all over the place, but I might be able to show you the one I use compared to my laptop screen (with both calibrated same settings). They definitely look different.

  • 8,458. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm not being a hipocrite at all. I'm basing everything I'm writing on the facts of this past year that have been posted here. As far as messages posted here can be called factual. I choose to believe that most are true.

     

    My reading isn't the issue, the issue is your honesty. You're misleading people for 1 of 3 reasons, you're a shill, an employee or your fanboysm is off the scale.

     

    You are posting based on what you know about one computer that you purchased and even then you don't know you won't see IR within days or months like the rest. Based on that one computer you want to suggest to potential buyers that something has been fixed. There is ZERO evidence that anything is fixed. When a few months from now, nobody says the new haswells don't have IR then I'll start to believe something might have changed.

     

    Yes I ignored your other 3 purchases but I shouldn't have as they help make my point. What has changed from then until now? Provide evidence. beyond your one haswell that is working AT THE MOMENT?

  • 8,459. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    DomdiDom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Chris Yates1 wrote:

     

    I've heard lots about these IGZO displays and people are assuming that it will fix all the issues. Let's not forget the retina displays were new when they first came out and look at the problems they have had.

     

    Hopefully they will be fine but I wouldn't count your chickens on such a new technology.


     

    What? What issues? aren't you the guy suggesting to people Apple has gotten together with samsung and lg and fixed everything, without any evidence in this thread or any place else to support what you wrote?

     

    Make up your mind, is there a problem or not? here you suggest there is, and in another post you say it's all good.