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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by ocelot1,

    ocelot1 ocelot1 Oct 28, 2013 8:14 AM in response to vkin
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    Oct 28, 2013 8:14 AM in response to vkin

    No. I dont know if it is a samsung or lg

  • by derbo904,

    derbo904 derbo904 Oct 28, 2013 9:20 AM in response to nlra
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    Oct 28, 2013 9:20 AM in response to nlra

    nlra wrote:

     

    derbo904 wrote:

     

    I have a base 15" rmbp late 2013.    

     

    I was referring to your 15" quote about unable to use the terminal command, so I forgot to note the 15" base since the quote referred to non-discrete graphics 15".

     

    Gotcha.  Since you were responding to someone with a 2012 15", I didn't want to assume that you had a non-discrete 2013 15" even though the discussion had chained off of my post.   I think it's pretty clear that both LCD manufacturers have come out with new or slightly tweaked displays for this next generation of rMBP, so comparing your display's model # to a 2012 machine is apples and oranges.  Whether or not the display manufacturers have actually managed to address any of the common problems from the older displays seems to still be in dispute.

     

    I would imagine that all 2013 15" models, whether non-discrete or discrete, use the same displays.  So the way to figure out what display you have is to observe what A022 maps to on a discrete 15" rMBP with that same display model, by using the command-line technique to get the actual manufacturer's model #.

     

    -- Nathan

     

     

    Nathan,

     

    I completely agree with you. Just waiting for one of the 2013 guys with a 15" who knows their display to chime in here and see what model number they have.

  • by Merch Visoiu,

    Merch Visoiu Merch Visoiu Oct 28, 2013 10:03 AM in response to kenosecon
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    Oct 28, 2013 10:03 AM in response to kenosecon

    kenosecon wrote:

     

    I have same problem  ;( my warranty expired 2 weeks ago. what are my options? I went to geinus and they charge me 400$ for the repair macbookpro 15" mid 2012.

     

    I travel a lot so I couldn't go to apple store earlier.

     

    Do we know if anyone has gotten a free replacement for their image retention display past the 1 year warranty period without AppleCare?

     

    Hey kenosecon, I hope you don't pay 400 dollars and then get another display that has other problems like yellow gradients or yellow tinting or stuck pixels or muras. Buying an Apple product is like buying a box of chocolates...

  • by LifeReceiver,

    LifeReceiver LifeReceiver Oct 28, 2013 10:13 AM in response to kenosecon
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    Oct 28, 2013 10:13 AM in response to kenosecon

    kenosecon wrote:

     

    I have same problem  ;( my warranty expired 2 weeks ago. what are my options? I went to geinus and they charge me 400$ for the repair macbookpro 15" mid 2012.

     

    I travel a lot so I couldn't go to apple store earlier.

     

    If it were me I would keep calling AppleCare.  One time I was out of warranty for an issue that exited while it was in warranty.  I called after it was a couple months too late and they told me if I had kept calling and left a history on the account they might have been able to do something.  You need to create a persistent history of calls and complaints.  I'd call AppleCare every week and eventually push to talk to a suervisor.  If they see a consistent call history they *might* be willing to work with you.  2 weeks isn't long and Apple is flexible to a certain degree.  They'll look at the date of the first visit and determine if they should honor a repair.

  • by Rocket Man 7654,

    Rocket Man 7654 Rocket Man 7654 Oct 28, 2013 11:00 AM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2013 11:00 AM in response to mittense

    Hey everybody, because I am following this thread since March and got a lot of useful information, I feel obligated to give a short report back. The IR problems kept me from buying a new machine since the new Pros came out last year. As a computer scientist, I am basically working all day long on my computer (reading, writing, programming, ...) and, thus, I need a perfect machine.

     

    After the launch of the Haswell Pros, I decided to replace my white Macbook. The white Macbook was 24/7 in use for 4 years and I never had any problems (thanks Apple, never had such a notebook!!). However, I was afraid of getting a machine with defective display. For my new 15" 2.3 GHz 16GB 512GB Macbook, I can state after intensive testing, that it is as perfect as my white Macbook was. The display has absolutely no IR or yellow regions. Even the pre-configured color profile looks great. Of course, I determined the manufacture of the display. Here it is:

     

    Color LCD

    LSN154YL01-A01

     

    I think, this is a revised Samsung. It would be nice to hear from others, if their revised Samsungs are as great as mine. I am also interested, if the revised LGs are IR-free. Many friends of mine ask me which notebook to buy. If the old game, Samsung is a winner and LG a looser is still true, I cannot recommend the new Pro to my friends because likely they are not as lucky as I.

  • by Baris3,

    Baris3 Baris3 Oct 28, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Rocket Man 7654
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    Oct 28, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Rocket Man 7654

    I am following this thread since I returned my mid 2012 base model retina macbook pro due to the IR defect on it's LG manufactured display.

     

    Now, I really would like to know is that new late 2013 retina macbook pro displays IR-free or not, cause im planning on buying an late 2013 macbook retina pro if these new displays has no defects..

     

    Any replies will be appreciated.

  • by juzzinator,

    juzzinator juzzinator Oct 28, 2013 12:52 PM in response to Baris3
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    Oct 28, 2013 12:52 PM in response to Baris3

    15" 2.3 GHz / 16GB:

     

    LSN154YL01-A01

    Manufacturer: 610

    Model: A022

     

    My first unit was also a Samsung display, but the display was hazy and had noticeably warm area in the left lower quarter. This replacement's display is very good and with calibration is exceptional.

     

    I've looked at other Haswell 15" units purchased by friends and have anecdotally noted that the LG displays are dimmer, lower contrast and tend to natively be cooler. Uniformity issues are noticeable among the Samsung display. However, side-by-side, a good Samsung display (mine) truly outshines the best LG display I've seen.

  • by derbo904,

    derbo904 derbo904 Oct 28, 2013 12:59 PM in response to juzzinator
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    Oct 28, 2013 12:59 PM in response to juzzinator

    Thanks for the reply juzzinator,

     

    Looks like I have a samsung one based on your model number

  • by VincenzofromIT,

    VincenzofromIT VincenzofromIT Oct 28, 2013 1:02 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:02 PM in response to mittense

    After a year, I bought the Haswell one.

    15" 2.3 GHz 16GB 512GB

    I had to install Xcode to see "LSN....."

    Beautiful display.

    Beautiful machine (even if too pricey.. At least in Italy)

     

    Vincenzo

  • by hanpil,

    hanpil hanpil Oct 28, 2013 1:16 PM in response to nlra
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:16 PM in response to nlra

    Late 2013 13" rMBP

    2.4 Ghz i5/8GB/256GB

     

    Manufacturer: 00000610

    Model: 0000A018

  • by Colonel.Cool,

    Colonel.Cool Colonel.Cool Oct 28, 2013 2:57 PM in response to hanpil
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    Oct 28, 2013 2:57 PM in response to hanpil

    Do you exhibit IR hanpil ?

  • by Baris3,

    Baris3 Baris3 Oct 28, 2013 3:36 PM in response to juzzinator
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    Oct 28, 2013 3:36 PM in response to juzzinator

    Thanks for the reply.

     

    It still seems quite risky to buy late 2013 retina macbook pro, cause if there is still LG displays out there, it means there might be still IR defect on these displays.

     

    I definitely would not want to buy a lottery retina macbook pro which may cause me trouble like the last retina macbook pro I bought and then refunded after.

  • by krnorth,

    krnorth krnorth Oct 28, 2013 4:44 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2013 4:44 PM in response to mittense

    I "WANT" to buy one...but man the display thing has me worried of course. Funny thing is though I have my laptop hooked up to an external monitor like 90% of the time so I don't think the IR would bother me because I'd only have to possibly deal with it 10% of the time...

     

    I'm almost now considering buying the Mac Pro and then getting an 13" air for portability and then just remote into my Pro.

     

    Wish we had some more feedback from people on these "RETINA" displays on the latest MacBook Pro refresh from this month.

  • by schk,

    schk schk Oct 28, 2013 5:02 PM in response to mittense
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    Oct 28, 2013 5:02 PM in response to mittense

    I've been using my new Haswell machine with the LG panel for the past weekend and still haven't had any signs of IR despite having windows/UI elements stuck in the same positions for very long periods of time.  And that's using fullscreen mode in Photoshop where you can blank out the entire screen to any color/pattern you want to easily catch any IR.

     

    It seems that the only people posting that have received LG panels are new retina owners like me.  I think until a previous LG retina owner gets a new retina w/ a LG panel to compare, then this issue can be put to rest.

     

    From reading through a good chunk of the most recent posts, it seems that the IR evident on the previous LG panels is easily triggered.

     

    With a thread this huge and so many repairs/replacements occuring, it would be unlikely for Apple to not to try address this in the latest revision.  They've done similar things in the past where they silently fix/address a problem in the next revision of a product and never publicly state there was a problem to begin with.  They did that with the first 12" Powerbooks which overheated to the point they warped cases, and in the 2nd revision redesigned the thermal cooling, and some other examples that I experienced myself, but don't recall at the moment.

  • by optimysticguy,

    optimysticguy optimysticguy Oct 28, 2013 6:54 PM in response to derbo904
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    Oct 28, 2013 6:54 PM in response to derbo904

    Just a FYI.

     

    I picked up on Friday a 15", 2.6, 16gb, 1tb ssd.

     

    Here is the display info.

     

    LSN154YL01-A01

    DLM337202RZFF0PAN

     

    Best Regards

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