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  • 8,865. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    x0054 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just got my Spyder4Pro, and I am very happy with the results! I have the 2012 Samsung screen with the really yellow tint, but it’s even throughout the screen. After calibration my screen is mostly neutral. The light grays have a very, very, slight green hue (not noticeable unless you really look for it), and the whites have a slight pink hue. However, the difference is significant, it’s much better now. I am very happy, and very ****** at Apple for not doing this at the factory.

     

    If you would like to check my profile out, here it is. (http://toleap.com/rmbp/Spyder4Pro%20rMBP%20Profile.icc) However, my guess is that each screen has to be calibrated individually to get the best result. If you are in San Diego area, I’ll calibrate yours for a $20 tip (I have to monazite this thing some how, right? :)) Or go to the Apple store, and demand that they do this for you for free, thes is a service the genius bar must offer, considering how far out of wake these screens are shipped from the factory.

  • 8,866. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    M5Marco Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Seems you got very similar, if not the same, results that JoshD did.

     

    Apple needs to release a "screen performance" OS X update already. Clean and simple through the App Store.

     

    BTW, JoshD would do claibrations for fellow Mac users for free out of the goodness of his heart.

  • 8,867. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    JoshD Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)

    I probbaly would but x0054 is doing home delivery.

     

    On a more serious note: interesting that you got pretty much exactly what I did for outcome. I tried multiple times and was only able to light or dark but never but light AND dark right. Let me know if you get better results. Would also be interesting to hear if someone with a different callibrator gets different/better results.

  • 8,868. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    M5Marco Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    JoshD: You seem pretty knowledgable about screens so I'm going to ask you the questions below.

     

    This slight pink mixed in with the white glow on the Apple logo on the case is directly related to what's gong on with the screen? The logo runs off the same LED's lighting up the screen? Also do you believe there is a HARDWARE ISSUE with the screens (LED's of low quality, etc) that is creating the pink glow? Are LED's ALWAYS neutral, and software purely dictates what color they emit? In your opinion, is the pink the real root of the problem and if so, how does it attribute to what we see as that slight "dirty" yellow/green to whites and grays?

     

    Thanks.

  • 8,869. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    M5Marco wrote:

     

     

    This slight pink mixed in with the white glow on the Apple logo on the case is directly related to what's gong on with the screen?

     

    Of the 4 displays I've had the pink Apple logo theory matches: the first display had a white display with a white Apple logo and then the subsequent 3 had yellow-tinted displays with pink Apple logos.

  • 8,870. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    JoshD Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)

    M5Marco wrote:

     

    JoshD: You seem pretty knowledgable about screens so I'm going to ask you the questions below.

     

    This slight pink mixed in with the white glow on the Apple logo on the case is directly related to what's gong on with the screen? The logo runs off the same LED's lighting up the screen? Also do you believe there is a HARDWARE ISSUE with the screens (LED's of low quality, etc) that is creating the pink glow? Are LED's ALWAYS neutral, and software purely dictates what color they emit? In your opinion, is the pink the real root of the problem and if so, how does it attribute to what we see as that slight "dirty" yellow/green to whites and grays?

     

    Thanks.

     

    To be honest, I'm not sure. I don't really know that much about the technology really. I don't think have backlight with a slightly pink tint is necessarily an issue. But it probably makes getting nice neutral whites harder. I could see having something with a yellower cast being easier than a true neutral tint.

  • 8,871. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Has anyone found themselves or heard of reported "ghosting/IR/image persistence with samsung based displays?  Or are the problems with samsung limited to color cast? 


    As of late 2013 are they still putting out junk LG displays with image retention?

     

    Thanks!

  • 8,872. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I think my 15" LG late 2013 suffers from backlight/backplate bleeding. Most noticeably on dark black backgrounds.

     

     

    Will keep an eye on it. Hope it will not turn into image retention (IR). Been reading in this thread often IR will occur months after the purchase and there is no guarantee it will not happen if not there in the first place.

  • 8,873. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Mine showed up over time.  In fact I think it appeared while it was being put through extended testing at the repair shop but I can't be sure.  I can say it's very apparent.  It's so pronounced that in some cases where I was actually seeing a persistent image I thought it was a transparency effect.  No I am not actually mistaking transparent for persisitent images - I closed the window behind which looks like it was showing through a transparent background and put up a solid color JPG.  The image is still there.  It's pretty extreme.

  • 8,874. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    CT Level 6 Level 6 (15,535 points)

    Sounds like you are mistaking transparent for persisitent images.

  • 8,875. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Dude can you read?  I VERIFIED that this is NOT the case by putting up a solid opaque JPG (several actually in various solid uniform colors) and closed all the windows behind it and I can still see the images of the windows that were open behind it.  I can also see the images on solid grey loading, restore screens, etc.

     

    It is NOT transparency - it's so pronounced an effect it LOOKS like it is.  


    Furthermore I'm comparing side by side with a thunderbolt and a MacBook Air.

  • 8,876. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Bf109 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Received my MacBook Pro Retina which had its LG SJA1 display replaced due to IR. The new one (SJA2) is dimmer and has an ugly green/yellow cast to it which takes away from the contrast of the screen. I am in the process of trying to swap my current Mac for a brand new one as the current screen is a massive dissapointment to me. Of course, the Apple geniuses tried to deny my claims and told me that the screen is in spec and that variations in displays are to be expected. When compared directly to the MBPr on display, the screen's subpar quality is immediately apparent.

  • 8,877. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    How do they deny it when they are put side by side and it's obvious?

     

    So they are still putting junk LG displays into the new late 2013 machines?  Do they still have IR or now it's color cast? 

  • 8,878. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Bf109 wrote:

     

    Received my MacBook Pro Retina which had its LG SJA1 display replaced due to IR. The new one (SJA2) is dimmer and has an ugly green/yellow cast to it which takes away from the contrast of the screen. I am in the process of trying to swap my current Mac for a brand new one as the current screen is a massive dissapointment to me. Of course, the Apple geniuses tried to deny my claims and told me that the screen is in spec and that variations in displays are to be expected. When compared directly to the MBPr on display, the screen's subpar quality is immediately apparent.

     

     

    Let us know how it goes, Bf109. Many of us are in the same situation: we got a good first display but for whatever reason had to replace it (image retention, muras, stuck pixels, exploding pixels, etc.) and the replacement we got was yellowy-green. Compliaining at the Genius Bar we are told that the yellow tint is normal. I can tell you that it's not just replacement displays that can be yellow: a brand new display on a new machine can also be yellow like what I have now.

  • 8,879. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    For those of you getting them to acknowledge that image retention is a valid reason to replace how are you doing it?  They're telling me it's "normal".

     

    Sadly besides the image retention my display has excellent color and brightness.  The image retention is the only problem.  It will suck to replace the IR problem with an ugly color cast.