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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by jedlh,

    jedlh jedlh Jan 13, 2014 6:25 AM in response to Colonel.Cool
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:25 AM in response to Colonel.Cool

    Colonel.Cool wrote:

    None retina MBP are fine, the sole problem with the screen is the pretty poor

    There's nothing wrong with the res, yes there's now PC's with higher res, but you're oversimplifying things by suggesting lower res/PPI = worse display, there's several other metric/attributes to consider.

     

    Once all those metrics are carefully compared/considered, one could draw the conclusion that there's 1 or more better consumer displays than the rMBP in this form-factor, but it's incorrect to suggest that no rMBP displays are good, & still very decent displays.

     

    Perhaps you were trying to say something else, if you were apologies for my misunderstanding, it was a very brief sentence, misunderstandings can/do happen in such scenarios.

     

    Merch Visoiu wrote:

    Like with any Apple product you have to buy it with the expectation that you'll probably need to exchange it within 14 days.

    C'mon now... Really?

  • by Merch Visoiu,

    Merch Visoiu Merch Visoiu Jan 13, 2014 6:18 AM in response to MacOSX10.6
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:18 AM in response to MacOSX10.6

    MacOSX10.6 wrote:

     

    Sorry for highjacking your post.

     

    But does anyone know if IR and yellow tints are problem on iPads as well?

     

    My brother his fiancee is planning to buy an iPad. I issued a warning to them suggesting they should carefully consider other options as well if IR is a problem on the iPads.

     

    Yes, the iPads also have image retention and weird colour problems. Please see the MacRumors forums at http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=137 in the iPad category. They have a thread on there about image retention with 37,475 views and another thread on discolouration that has 26,394 views. Both are on the first page of the forum category so you can't miss them.

     

    From a glance it seems that the problem is mostly with the iPad mini with Retina display.

     

    Like with any Apple product you have to buy it with the expectation that you'll probably need to exchange it within 14 days.

  • by brdeveloper,

    brdeveloper brdeveloper Jan 13, 2014 6:22 AM in response to MacOSX10.6
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:22 AM in response to MacOSX10.6

    IR is reported by appearing on the new Mini w/Retina Display. I think yellowing is worse on 15" rMBPs because of its display size. If it was sized, e.g. a quarter of the actual size, the tinting from the bottom left would, perhaps, be uniform. So we could complain from yellowing, but not from uneven yellowing.

  • by BarrettF77,

    BarrettF77 BarrettF77 Jan 13, 2014 6:32 AM in response to brdeveloper
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:32 AM in response to brdeveloper

    I went through 9 iPad minis with retina.  I ended up keeping 2 of them for Christmas.  Over half had bad light bleed and 6 of them did IR.  The two that did not, had very dull colors and we horrible in light bleeding.  So similar issues to what others are seeing on the MBP

  • by Colonel.Cool,

    Colonel.Cool Colonel.Cool Jan 13, 2014 6:38 AM in response to BarrettF77
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:38 AM in response to BarrettF77

    Yeah I wanted one but when I heard about IR I gave up. Don't have time to keep returning their products. Remember when Apple was known for their quality products ?

  • by MacOSX10.6,

    MacOSX10.6 MacOSX10.6 Jan 13, 2014 6:38 AM in response to Merch Visoiu
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:38 AM in response to Merch Visoiu

    Thanks I skyped the link to my brother:

     

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1672632

     

     

    I have long ago abandoned the idea to persuade someone to buy into the Apple hype.

     

    I am stuck with OS X for other reasons though and cannot easily move on to another platform.

     

    Apple lost the plot. If one hasn't got IR or yellow tints most likely the 13" laptop will suffer from the keyboaed freeze (my brother's 13" MBPr late 2013 froze many times); and no the software update did absolutely nothing to mitigate the problem.

     

    And of course my 15" late 2013 LG 019 screen is far from perfect.

  • by brdeveloper,

    brdeveloper brdeveloper Jan 13, 2014 6:42 AM in response to Merch Visoiu
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:42 AM in response to Merch Visoiu

    I'm sorry for not have bought a Dell Precision. The base model costs the price of a rMBP, but, according to reports from users, its IGZO display doesn't suffer from uneven yellowing nor image retention. I even had contact with a seller which is my relative, but I was too hurried on taking my decision. The Precision M3800 also comes with Quadro GPU. I just looked at the gross specs, e.g. Quadro K1100 x 750M or K1000 x 650M or 256GB SSD x 512GB SSD.

     

    The specs from the Precision looked a bit more expensive than the rMBP. In truth, we pay for what we get. We usually doen't expect a PC to be more expensive than a Mac "because Macs are better quality computers", but currently this is not the case. M3800 is probably the only way of getting a quality, very portable workstation these days.

  • by jedlh,

    jedlh jedlh Jan 13, 2014 6:44 AM in response to BarrettF77
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:44 AM in response to BarrettF77

    And how many Android tablets with similar res, overall IQ, & the same basic panel tech have folks here gone through? I'm about to get an Android tablet that has similar qualities to the retina iPad IIRC, I wonder if I'll be as disappointed, even If am I doubt I'll be able to return it that many times (if at all).

  • by Colonel.Cool,

    Colonel.Cool Colonel.Cool Jan 13, 2014 6:50 AM in response to brdeveloper
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    Jan 13, 2014 6:50 AM in response to brdeveloper

    I have heard good things about the last Dell XPS 13". Many reviews are saying it's even better than the rmbp 13" (The screen is beautifull and IR Free) but we are getting off topic :P

  • by jedlh,

    jedlh jedlh Jan 13, 2014 7:01 AM in response to brdeveloper
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    Jan 13, 2014 7:01 AM in response to brdeveloper

    The specs from the Precision looked a bit more expensive than the rMBP. In truth, we pay for what we get. We usually doen't expect a PC to be more expensive than a Mac "because Macs are better quality computers", but currently this is not the case. M3800 is probably the only way of getting a quality, very portable workstation these days.

    I'm definitely looking at the next go around very closely, reading dozen of different reviews, threads, & other data points (as per usual) before puling the trigger. It's entirely possible that Apple's no longer at the pinnacle this yr when it comes to ultraportable workstations, no one's at the top constantly, & that's a good thing.

     

    The only thing that may put me off pulling the trigger, is not being able to dual-boot OSX on a PC or in a VM (or both) as elegantly as one can on a Mac. Just as I still use Windows/Other quite a bit, I would still want to use OSX quite a bit, and have a consistent/reliable experience there.

     

    But yes, we digress... Then again, that's what this thread has really become, so we can be relaxed about that, there can be other more targeted threads e.g:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5781637?tstart=90

  • by PB,

    PB PB Jan 13, 2014 7:04 AM in response to Colonel.Cool
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    Jan 13, 2014 7:04 AM in response to Colonel.Cool

    Hm, I had somehow missed the resolution point in the old MBP. It is only 1280 x 800 for a 13" display. This is what my 6-years old Macbook has. I am saying this in the sense that my needs evolved since then and I see myself rather limited in this resolution.

     

    I just checked out the new Macbook Air. It has a more reasonable resolution at 13" than the old MBP. Are they any display issues like in the case of the rMBP? The MBA is obviously weak in the CPU department but let's focus for a moment on the display.

  • by Colonel.Cool,

    Colonel.Cool Colonel.Cool Jan 13, 2014 7:14 AM in response to PB
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    Jan 13, 2014 7:14 AM in response to PB

    That's what I was saying. Personnaly I hate the Air screen, the color gammut and the viewing angles are very poor. It's a TN panel like the ones you had on notebooks and old PC before IPS. Btw they are no IR but they also use LG and Samsung and noce again the Samsung are better (more contrast even though they are still pretty bad. That's why I went for the retina but ... You know the end.

  • by Merch Visoiu,

    Merch Visoiu Merch Visoiu Jan 13, 2014 9:12 AM in response to Colonel.Cool
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    Jan 13, 2014 9:12 AM in response to Colonel.Cool

    I just want to mention that I have mild image retention on a couple of original iPad 1s from 2010 so the image retention problem is not something that started with the Retina MacBook Pros or Retina iPad minis.

  • by BarrettF77,

    BarrettF77 BarrettF77 Jan 13, 2014 9:34 AM in response to PB
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    Jan 13, 2014 9:34 AM in response to PB

    PB, I have a mid 2013 Air with the top of the line spec and capacity.  First one had light bleed very badly, second had keys grind, third had bleed and a urine yellow colored screen, and 4th was good, a little warmer color than the 2010 air it was replacing and a hair dimmer.  But otherwise, I've had good luck with it.  And it's no slouch with the SSD and dual core intel i7.  You might like it unless you are doing very heavy graphic intensive stuff.  But it's otherwise great on battery and other functionality.

  • by jk2020,

    jk2020 jk2020 Jan 13, 2014 10:13 AM in response to mittense
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    Jan 13, 2014 10:13 AM in response to mittense

    I have got new Macbook Air 2013 (Mid 2013). I replaced three times the screen and still getting yellowinsh. could it be possible its bad system instead of screen? Also my ipad mini has yellowish screen

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