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  • 9,195. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    jedlh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've never told anyone to "buy Apple"; I've asked them a series of Qns relating to what they want to DO, what they KNOW & have EXPERIENCE with, & have made recommendations accordingly.

  • 9,196. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    jedlh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Nvm, there's something wrong with the forum right now >.>

  • 9,197. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    But I think the question is: can we now recommend the 13 (15") MBPr?  There should be no answer in between and a simple 'yes' or 'no' is all that is needed here. "It depends" is not a valid answer.

     

     

    So would anyone here recommend buying a MPBr late 2013? Yes or no.

  • 9,198. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    MacOSX10.6 wrote:

     

    But I think the question is: can we now recommend the 13 (15") MBPr?  There should be no answer in between and a simple 'yes' or 'no' is all that is needed here. "It depends" is not a valid answer.

     

     

    So would anyone here recommend buying a MPBr late 2013? Yes or no.

     

    If someone is coming from PC then I would say no, stay with PC. If someone needs a Mac, like I do to make iOS apps, then I would say you need to inspect it over 14 days and be prepared to exchange or return it. Inspect it for creaking case, image retention, yellow tint, muddy corners, gradients, muras, stuck pixels, exploding pixels, freezing OS. If it doesn't have any of those then maybe keep it knowing it could develop problems later like image retention or muras.

  • 9,199. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Add to the list:

     

    And the trackpad/keyboard freeze problem on the 13" MBPr late 2013.

     

    The EFI update (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5296) did absolutely zero and nothing is being mitigated by the update and the 13" keeps freezing from time to time.

     

    I have a 15" but my brother is affected by the keyboard freeze on his 13":

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5481839?start=0&tstart=0

  • 9,200. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Ipaduserpol Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Welle it Sems most of you do not recommend to buy an MacBook Pro late 2013 right now. Can anyone tell me when I can count with a new MacBook? My friend told me Apple used to release a new version each spring... Thanks

  • 9,201. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is why everyone loves Apple:

     

    Not acknowledging a current problem but releasing a new raft of new problems with the next release.

  • 9,202. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Colonel.Cool Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Maybe we could create a FB group ? But after what I have been told by various executives I really. Don't think they plan to do anything ... If they were selling as much rmbp as iPhones and the problem was obvious right away maybe they would have no choice but in this case you have to look for it at first so people do not notice it until a long time. Maybe long enough for them for finally produce good enough displays to replace the wrong one with ...

  • 9,203. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    Colonel.Cool Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Lol I finally was able to speak with their "engineer" who told me the official story, that is to say Apple is aware and it is normal. "You should set your screensaver to avoid the issue ...". Which confirms that they do not care. They basically said people should do research before buying a product and that it is normal for the retina screens and people should be aware of this before buying. I told them that they should write it on their website then and they said why should we ? They think as long it goes away it is normal and that's why they established a test. If it stays then it is not normal and they will replace the screen. As all my 13" rmbp passed their test while doing IR I would advise people who bought or want to buy one to be really carefull as even with Apple Care they might not replace your screen when you need it as your screen will probably pass their fake BS test. Conclusion of the story : let´s go buy something else.

  • 9,204. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brsm1990 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Does anyone exactly what Apple's socalled IR test is and how to replicate it exactly to see if you "pass" or "fail".

  • 9,205. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    brdeveloper Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Had my last post removed. Looks like we have to talk about this on MacRumors. Bye... 614 pages already says enough about the issue. It's up to Apple recognize and solve it.

  • 9,206. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    BarrettF77 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    Welcome to Apple censorship.  This is why it's better to just keep swapping units on the 15" at apples expense or tell others to avoid the 13" if IR is something you cannot have exist for work reasons.  They have already made it clear they aren't back tracking.  It would be too much $$$$.  Only hope is the wisen up on future product releases. 

  • 9,207. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    J.K. ROFLing Level 4 Level 4 (1,220 points)

    Censorship? Seriously dude? If Apple WAS censoring this discussion do you think it would have gone over 100 pages, much less 600+? brdeveloper was suggesting a class action lawsuit, do you really thing Apple will (or should) allow their boards to be used to organize a suit agains them? Get real.

     

    You want to talk and complain about the issue, do it here, looks like those are being allowed. You want to organize a lawsuit, poll or petition? Go somewhere else. Those are against the ToU and Apple has shown they will pull those.

     

    Enjoy.

  • 9,208. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    BarrettF77 Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)

    They have censored other stuff too.  Blanket statement.  And pull the wool over your eyes off.  Just their very stating it's a non issue is a censorship of the truth.  But keep the rose colored lenses on. 

     

    There are varying degrees of censorship as opposed to your black or white viewpoint.  I'm merely saying they frequently exercise the right to remove material from the thread.  I get confused by who is defending apple here or the consumer sometimes.  I'm for the consumer as I don't have billions in my account.  I work hard for my money, and want my money's worth.  And when I have all my software in a particular OS, it's not too much to ask to get at least the same level of quality as the computer I am replacing. 

  • 9,209. Re: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?
    MacOSX10.6 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I understand Apple pulls the plug if someone wants to kick start a lawsuit here.

     

    Anyway I do not think the entire thread will hurt Apple in any way.

     

    My brother his fiancee just bought a new iPad mini even though I tried to convince them - by pointing them to the Mac Rumors discussions - to look elsewhere. Sure the Apple employee in the store claimed there is zero proof that IR has ever happened to any of the iPad minis and no one has ever returned one because of that.

     

    My brother is happy with his 13" MBPr late 2013 (he assured me there is no IR or yellow tint except for the occasional keyboard freeze). I am even responsible that he has turned to an Apple convert coning from Windows cos the MBPr was gift from me back in November 2013.