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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by dcinzona,

    dcinzona dcinzona Aug 15, 2012 8:30 AM in response to VctrW
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:30 AM in response to VctrW

    I received my rMBP yesterday, so  yeah, within the 14 day return... but I also bought AppleCare-

     

    I also just want to point out that being nice goes a long way.  Don't abuse the tech on the phone.  They didn't build the machine or QA it.  Be calm, nice, chat a bit and hopefully everyone will be understanding and you will get a replacement shipped out.

     

    Now, I can't really say how calm I'll be if I have to keep doing this, but for now - it worked out.

  • by Sfasciacarene,

    Sfasciacarene Sfasciacarene Aug 15, 2012 8:28 AM in response to stecube
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:28 AM in response to stecube

    @orangeApple77

     

    i hope you are joking...

    if i use a pc, especially with ide like a Xcode, but also anotoher type of use (write text, read text, surfing web etc), i keep the window open also for some hours.. So 20-30 min are nothing!

     

    i understand if the problem appear after 2 day but no in some hours and absolutely no in 30 mins.

     

    i noticed IR issuse only in my iPad 2, rMbp with LG screen (for now, i wait for replacement) and in some pcs at work, but that stay open every day, all day with only one program, and after some year this can happen, but no in a new screen after 20-30 mins...

  • by Schultzer,

    Schultzer Schultzer Aug 15, 2012 8:35 AM in response to stecube
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:35 AM in response to stecube

    Samsung week 33, perfect.

  • by orangeApple77,

    orangeApple77 orangeApple77 Aug 15, 2012 8:48 AM in response to Sfasciacarene
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:48 AM in response to Sfasciacarene

    I did say that I totally agree that it shouldn't occur. I have had Apple force a defective iMac on me for like 9 months and had to haul it in 5 times. My real point is that they will get less and less willing to comply as this progresses. You will even wonder if it's in your head. I am the problem here? Maybe I'm defective? Someone pointed it out earlier in this thread. "Let's see if we can fix your problem", "I am sorry our product doesn't meet your expectations". (that it not be defective? yes that is my expectation) That is classic Apple Senior advisor talk and it was my nightmare for like 9 months. Anyone else who has experienced this knows what I mean.

     

    My real point was that if you tell them you left if for thirty minutes they will likely act like you are the problem and be less helpful. I was just trying to advise what not to say to get the best service. Obviously, a screen is meant to display things and any retention at all should not occur. That's why it is so crazy that Apple doesn't properly recognize the problem and we are left trying to explain something so obvious.

     

    and you should complain if that is you case. there should be no retention. it's also frustrating to see this issue of display and ad models using superior screens and then shipping with low quality screens. of course apple reserves the right to do this.

     

    Message was edited by: orangeApple77

  • by skiingphil8888,

    skiingphil8888 skiingphil8888 Aug 15, 2012 8:41 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:41 AM in response to mittense

    Putting the IR issue to one side for the moment, there seems to be a consistent message of difference in quality between LG and Samsung.  For users of LG with no issue does this mean no route is open to swap to a superior display/machine.

     

    Could this be $3.5K wasted with no resell value becuase it's LG?

  • by missfendibear,

    missfendibear missfendibear Aug 15, 2012 8:42 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:42 AM in response to mittense

    Just got my rMBP two days ago. No luck! Just change wallpaper to solid grey and open some white background windows for 10 mins. It is there! Even i had closed the lid and repower on. It is still there! I can not bear this ^%#@.

    Going to return it and wait to see when will apple solve this.

  • by stecube,

    stecube stecube Aug 15, 2012 8:47 AM in response to missfendibear
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:47 AM in response to missfendibear

    missfendibear wrote:

     

    Just got my rMBP two days ago. No luck! Just change wallpaper to solid grey and open some white background windows for 10 mins. It is there! Even i had closed the lid and repower on. It is still there! I can not bear this ^%#@.

    Going to return it and wait to see when will apple solve this.

     

    Can you please tell us manufacturer and week build?

  • by Maziyar,

    Maziyar Maziyar Aug 15, 2012 8:54 AM in response to orangeApple77
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:54 AM in response to orangeApple77

    Maybe 3 hours but 30 minutes it's so obvious for a professional people who paid that much money for a professional machine. Even 3 hours not something that I can accept. But yes sounds crazy if you say that you left your monitor for 3 hours without any movement. (Still a problem and if I found out somehow I will change it anyway)

     

    I think we(Customers) should be more worried about ourselves than themselves(Apple). We are already done our job and that was paying the money. Now they should their job.

     

    Stand up for what you deserve. Not more not less. Now it's your choice. I say don't even care about what you hear and what you see and do the right thing even if you have to call the entire Cupertino.

     

    Best of luck.

  • by Dr Sly,

    Dr Sly Dr Sly Aug 15, 2012 8:58 AM in response to stecube
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:58 AM in response to stecube

    Hello all,

     

    I'm in the Apple Store in Montreal and I just dropped my rMBP with my faulty LG screen (week 23) for repairs (already in the count I think).

     

    So I'm hoping for a Samsung too...

     

    FYI I just tested two random rMBP on display at the Store, and lo and behold:

     

    Week 23 with LG: ghosting after 5 minutes using dark grey background and some windowed apps

     

    Week 23 with Samsung: zero issues after 15 minutes, same test...

     

    Both are stock configs btw

     

    Those darned LG screens grrrr...

  • by zolobot,

    zolobot zolobot Aug 15, 2012 8:58 AM in response to mittense
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    Aug 15, 2012 8:58 AM in response to mittense

    I'm sure this IR issue would be big in the news (like the iPhone4 antenna issue was) if Apple commented it in any way, so they won't.

    It's also worth pointing out that IR of these levels is also a privacy issue. Next user can see what the previous user has been up to last just by having a solid dark background.

    Anyway, I got my second screen replacement today. It's an LG again and slight IR is already creeping in...

    Faulty screen serials I've had so far:

    DCN22230DWHDMJ0AN - original

    DCN228701U1DMJ0A0 - second

    DCN229413ZUDMJ0AM - current

    Those who report non-faulty LG screens, could you please list your screen serials?

    My machine is week 24, but I wouldn't draw any conclusion from that...

  • by Sfasciacarene,

    Sfasciacarene Sfasciacarene Aug 15, 2012 9:00 AM in response to stecube
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    Aug 15, 2012 9:00 AM in response to stecube

    orangeApple77

     

    Sorry sorry, you are absolutely right...

  • by orangeApple77,

    orangeApple77 orangeApple77 Aug 15, 2012 9:02 AM in response to Maziyar
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    Aug 15, 2012 9:02 AM in response to Maziyar

    Maziyar

     

    I agree completely. I hope that people get what they deserve, a working computer for what they paid, which is a lot. I know this can be very frustrating,

    exasperating even.

  • by stecube,

    stecube stecube Aug 15, 2012 9:01 AM in response to orangeApple77
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    Aug 15, 2012 9:01 AM in response to orangeApple77

    Quick update of faulty or perfect display stats:

     

    LG week unknown (8x)

    LG week 23 (3x)

    LG week 24 (3x)

    LG week 26 (4x)

    LG week 29 (2x)

    LG week 30 (2x)

    LG week 31 (2x)

    LG week 32 (3x)

    LG week 33 (2x)

    Unknown week 24

     

    LG week unknown

    LG week 26 (3x)

    LG week 29

    LG week 33 (2x)

    Samsung week unknown (2x)

    Samsung week 23

    Samsung week 30 (2x)

    Samsung week 32

    Samsung week 33 (3x)

     

    Find out your build week: http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php Put the serial in the top left corner bar

     

    Find out your display manufacturer: Open Terminal, copy & paste:

    ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

    and then press Enter. If the result starts with LP it's an LG, if it starts with LSN it's a Samsung.

  • by orangeApple77,

    orangeApple77 orangeApple77 Aug 15, 2012 9:10 AM in response to Sfasciacarene
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    Aug 15, 2012 9:10 AM in response to Sfasciacarene

    Sfasciacarene

     

    no worries. this will put you on edge for sure. i hope it gets better for everyone instead of worse.

  • by Dazzler J,

    Dazzler J Dazzler J Aug 15, 2012 9:38 AM in response to zolobot
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    Aug 15, 2012 9:38 AM in response to zolobot

    My working LG screen details. Do all the LG screens have the same model numbers?

     

    LP154WT1-SJA1

    DCN22820HFXDMJ0AY

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