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  • SonGuko Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    unfortunately you cant edit posts here ...

     

    can somebody tell me if A019 in late 2013 15" correlates to the LG rev. 2 or rev. 1? Or cant you tell? Maybe somebody with dedicated gpu can help here out?

  • colinb07958 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Any help on this. Should I get the 13" rmbp or is it too risky at the moment

  • SonGuko Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    if i would be you, i would wait as long as possible. maybe they release soon gizo displays. this would be a very good thing!

  • Restj Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi,

     

    I have a 13" rMBpr late 2013 bought in March in the UK. Since the begining I saw there was somehting wrong with my display, since my SO has the same model, make everyhting however hers was from the begining a lot brighter and the white was "whiter" and she bought in December. I proceeded to verify the screen make and manufacturer info on numerous threads and the oppinions are divided on which screen model (A018 or A020 for the 13" rMBprs) belongs to which company: Samsung or LG. I currenlty have the A020 and not only is the yellow tint visibile but it seems to be getting worse by the day. There is no ghosting though at least.

     

    My experience with this issue however has been OK so far with Apple here in the UK, as I first raised this issue on the web chat, and after trying all of their "remedies" surpise surprise the screen was no whiter. I then made an appointment with a Genius near my city and brought both laptops there. After explaining the problem in a coherent and calm tone and showing to the guy that this is in fact not only a real problem but also a noticeable one (even if you look at an iphone screen it is still whiter then the rMBpro's one), he immediately recognized this as a problem and ordered a new screen. I am currently awaiting a new screen to be shipped to the store and then I'll bring my laptop in again to get it installed. Will post again if with the second screen is the same or whether it is going to be an A018, which I really hope it will be.

     

    Apple should really recognise this as a widespread thing though as the forums ar full of this particular kind of issue.

  • Raima328 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Recently got my macbook pro retina screen replaced due to loose hinge. The previous screen was an original Samsung from mid 2012. Very happy with the display except for the unfortunate loose hinge.

     

    When I got my Retina Macbook Pro back, the hinge was all fixed up, but this is what the screen is like.

     

    LP154WT1-SJA2 Yellow Tint.jpeg

    iMac on left, 15" Retina Macbook Pro on right

     

    LP154WT1-SJA2 Yellow Tint 2.jpeg

    iMac on top, Macbook Air in middle, Retina Macbook Pro on bottom.

  • alex24buc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hello everybody. I have read your posts and I am very sorry that there are a lot of problems with the retina screens. After having issues before with retina display from apple products (iphone, ipad) I decided to try my luck with a macbook pro retina.

    So after some finnacial efforts i purchased the mackbook pro retina late 2013, 15". The display is made by Samsung as i have noticed, and there is something strange about it, maybe you guys could help me with. Beside the fact that is not that white as I expected, and it is a bit yellow, I noticed something interesting about the whitness of the screen that in some circumstances changes a bit.

    So to explain, after quitting watching a movie on youtube or another bluray video with quick time or another player, on full screen, even for a few minutes, I noticed that the white on the open windows on safari (this forum for exmple) is a more accurate white, dissapearing the yellow sensation completely. The sad part is that after a few minutes the yellow hue reappears and the white, it`s not that white anymore (is not that pronnonced but I can see it). I mention that this has nothing to do with brightness, which is not set to automatically change and it is not changing by itself, it is something with the yellow hue that dissapears enterely only after playing a video on full screen, and maybe somebody else wouldn`t notice it, but i do see it and I want to have the white that I get only after quitting a video. I reproduced this situation many times now, and it is a little frustrating because i don`t want to play a video in order to get a perfectly white with no yellow hue. My macbook has a month and I am not taking into consideration to go to the reseller for warranty (I don`t have an apple store in my country) because for sure they will deny any problem. As I told you before, this is not something that obvious. I know this may look hard to believe but believe me, I spent a long time to analyze this problem as i considered it was just my imagination, but I assure you this is a true situation.

    I also disabled the discrete graphic card changing function and nothing happened. Please help, any advice would be much appreciated.

  • MerchV Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    alex24buc wrote:

     

     

    So to explain, after quitting watching a movie on youtube or another bluray video with quick time or another player, on full screen, even for a few minutes, I noticed that the white on the open windows on safari (this forum for exmple) is a more accurate white, dissapearing the yellow sensation completely.

     

    I have experienced the same thing: after coming out of a video game or full-screen video the whites seem better than before and then fades back to yellow. I don't know if I am imaging it or not but I know what you are describing and I can't explain it.

  • alex24buc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    MerchV, thank you for your reply, this is exactly the situation you described it. it looks that I am not the only one with this, but what could be the cause?!

  • bernhard.sf Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi guys, here is my experience:


    Bought my first Macbook Pro Retina in February 2014 (15-inch, 2.6 GHz, 512GB, German keyboard layout). Till today I haven’t found a single good screen.


    I am currently using a Macbook Pro 2011 (non-retina, non-glossy) with an LG Screen that looks amazing in color and contrast and backlight strength.


    I went through nine Retina machines all together. They all shipped directly from the chinese vendor to the US. I had amazing help from a shopping assistant  at Luvocracy that dealt directly with Apple and took care of the shipping and re-ordering process. Apple sent me a pair of free headphones after the 7th bad screen. I also once had a phone call with a lead service representative at Apple and he pretty much admitted that Apple has no control over the quality of the screen and that this is an ongoing issue.


    The main problem is certainly the wide variety of image quality you receive on those screens.

    The Samsung screens tend to be more uniform in their backlight support. Sadly they come with a more yellow native-white coloring that makes them hard to be used for graphic design. Grays turn out to me more brownish and reds more orange. You can’t really fix this problem by using an external calibration and measuring device and creating a color profile (which I tried). The native white tone can’t get any whiter (in this case less yellow) than what the screen offers.

    Most of the Samsung screens varied widely how intense those yellowish colors appeared. Some of them were terribly yellow, others were not uniform and more yellow in the top or bottom parts and should in my opinion not be shipped out to customers.


    samsung.jpg


    non-uniform Samsung screen. Notice the different grays that look brownish in different area.


    Two of them had LG screens that seem to have a much better native-whites. Sadly one of them had a purple area on the top left and a yellowish area in the right bottom. Both did not show any kind of image retention so I assume the latest LG screens (late 2013) don’t have this issue anymore.


    lg.jpg


    non-uniform LG screen with strong purple on the top left part and yellow tint in the bottom right area.


    The most perfect screen I received was actually an LG screen. Sadly Apple messed up my order to include a 3D graphics card in that Macbook and I had to return it again.  It was sad because that screen was truly amazing looking and totally uniform.

    I do recommend the LG screens if they are uniform. The “whiter” native-white ensures better calibration options.


    After my 9th return Apple did not allow anymore exchanges and offered a repair instead. I declined since it makes it impossible to return the machine with a full refund in case Apple installs another yellowish Samsung screen that might be ok by their standards but not by mine.


    As other folks have described it the problem comes down that you don’t have the option to select upfront an LG or Samsung screen. It also doesn’t look like their is any good quality control happening on Apple's side in regards to screen quality.


    I would not recommend at this time to buy a $2700,- Macbook Pro Retina. Especially if the screen costs more than one grand and is supposed to be the killer feature and big reason to buy it. “The Retina display reduces glare while maintaining incredible color and quality.” - I may disagree with that statement.

     

    Let me know if you have any questions?

  • Merch Visoiu Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    bernhard.sf wrote:

     

     

    I also once had a phone call with a lead service representative at Apple and he pretty much admitted that Apple has no control over the quality of the screen and that this is an ongoing issue.


    After my 9th return Apple did not allow anymore exchanges and offered a repair instead. I declined since it makes it impossible to return the machine with a full refund in case Apple installs another yellowish Samsung screen that might be ok by their standards but not by mine.


    Let me know if you have any questions?

     

     

    Thanks for sharing your story. It's amazing that Apple continues to sell these horrible displays, whether it's the image retention on the early displays or yellowing on the later displays. The first display I had in mid-2012 had amazing colour, contrast, and clarity; I miss it. 

  • Restj Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    bernhard.sf wrote:

     

     

    You can’t really fix this problem by using an external calibration and measuring device and creating a color profile (which I tried). The native white tone can’t get any whiter (in this case less yellow) than what the screen offers.

     

    Let me know if you have any questions?

     

     

    Hi, thanks for your reply. I've also tried doing this, can you explain further why this is not possible? I'm no expert but my guess is that it's because of the fact the screen does not give you control over the RGB settings right, as in accurate colour spectrum calibration?

     

    I'm on my 3rd screen now. Still a blody A20, see pictures of me comparing this with another rMBPro, same specs. Its really frustrating when you have two machines in the household which you've paid for a lot and they can't even deliver the screens with the same quality.

     

    http://imgur.com/a/gVbZp/

  • LifeReceiver Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    There is hope folks.  I've got a 1st gen rMBP and I'm on my 4th display.  It is a 2nd gen LG and it's beautiful.  The colors are spot on and I haven't seen any IR for 6 months.  My only complaint is it lacks brightness in some instances.  Of all the previous screens this one is far superior and is the reason I love my rMBP.

  • alex24buc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Can you please tell me how does this lack of brightness manifests? Because, as i have written above, I do have something like that, sometimes the display becomes a bit yellow, but if I open a video and close it, or a picture, when I get back to a white page I can see that the white is more white and even the brightness is stronger. Unfortunately after some minutes this goes back to a bit yellow again. I think it is some issue that will be gone sooner or later. At least I hope so.

  • LifeReceiver Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    It's nothing intermittent.  Sometimes I just wish I could go a little brighter.  I never have any yellowing and it's alwasy crisp clear white.

  • bernhard.sf Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi Resj,

    with a very yellowish native white you will never be able to get to a really clear white aka "paper white" or anything around 6000K since the color-temperatue range of the display just simply doesn't support it hardware wise.

    You will have to move the color profile for the white point more into a blue-ish area (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/PlanckianLocus.png) and that will make the whole screen look very blueish on cool colors. It will also create strong color correction curves for red and green and yellow so the color quality would be questionable IMO. This is very sad for a screen that pricey.

     

    If you have the luck of owning a Macbook Pro Retina with an LG screen 2nd generation you can calibrate  the color ranges much better.