iphone movie upside down in fcp

Hello, I've followed through every question I can find on this and no one sems to be giving an answer. I apparently shot vodeo upside down on my iphone and brought it into FCP from iphoto. I also brought it in Image capture. How is is possible that there is no way of rotating this? I feel desperate and I've been working on this for hours.

I would appreciate any help.

I use fcp 6.0.6 and the mac is a 10.6.8

best Libby

Final Cut Pro 6, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jun 18, 2012 7:09 PM

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Jun 18, 2012 8:22 PM in response to Meg The Dog

HI Meg, Thank you for responding in spite of my bad spelling. I tried this and it flips in the timeline but flips back as a QT export. Someone suggested I rotate in the canvas window using the corner rotating devices and again it looks as if it works but it flips back on export.


here is the big query. I couldn't have rotated my phone because I have a case attached to it that i attach to a tripod. i did download a new version of Itunes in the last week. Could this be the culprit?


I am still desperate so I appreciate any other suggestions.

best Libby

Jun 18, 2012 8:38 PM in response to Libby Hague

Click on one of your source clips in the FCP browser, and once selected, type Command + 9 to see the item properties for the clip. Either report those properties, or take a screen shot and post that screen shot here.


Next, click anywhere on your timeline and type Command + 0 {zero} to see your sequence settings. Either report what your sequence settings are, or take a screen shot and post that here.


Thanks

MtD

Jun 19, 2012 4:24 AM in response to Meg The Dog

Hello MtD

My delay is that the Apple discussions were being updated lst night. Somewhere it was suggested using compressor to transcode the iphone movie to apple prores first but that seems very cumbersome and would create a 17 G file. Do you think it could be the new Itunes ? I downloaded it 2 days ago, just before this problem.

thanks again,

best Libby

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Jun 19, 2012 9:19 AM in response to Libby Hague

Don't know about the iTunes, but you should transcode the iPhone footage to ProRes. H.264 is a recording and delivery codec, it is not an editing codec - and using it to edit in FCP will produce unexpected results.


You can edit directly with it in FCP-X, or Adobe Premiere, because those application do the transcoding on the fly. But not in FCP6 or FCP7.


The larger file size that results from the transcode is because the source video is "unpacked" from the H.264 codec, where it is tightly smashed as small as possible into packages of groups of frames, into individual frames in ProRes.


If your sequence is not too long, you could try this:

Make a duplicate sequence by control-clicking on the sequence in the FCP Browser and from the drop down menu choose duplicate.

Now WORKING ON THE COPY YOU JUST MADE, click anywhere on the timeline and type Command + 0 {zero} to open the sequence settings. Change the QuickTime Video Settings to ProRes 422 (I don't remember if FCP6 has ProRes LT as an option, if so, select it - it will give you the benefits of ProRes in a smaller file size).

Click OK, to close the Sequence Settings panel. You will see that your timeline now requires rendering.

For purposes of this test, just click on the icon of the Sequence you just modified in the FCP browser and go to the menu File > Export > QuickTime Move and see if the exported file maintains the corrected orientation of the video.


MtD

Jun 19, 2012 11:56 AM in response to Meg The Dog

HI Meg, I will try this after the test I'm doing now where I rotate the file 2x a video filter.

That didn't work so I'm testing your suggestion.

If I do use the proRes will it improve the general quality as well?


The iphone to FCP process had worked well with the exception of the sound but I have a workaround for that.


I'll keep you posted. Thanks for not giving up on me.

best Libby

Jun 19, 2012 1:04 PM in response to Libby Hague

HI Meg, I had looked at this before ( see below) and was going to try it but since I don't have ProRes LT I used ProRes and the estimated file size is 47 G.

I think it's too cumbersome to work with. The end place is Youtube with a dvd in the gallery so I don't need this quality.


Any other suggestions

best Libby



JeffiGreenberg


Jul 14, 2010 8:08 PM



Wrote this over on reddit - thought it'd be useful here.

Here's the problem: +What you have is 720p 24 frame h.264 files with 44k aac audio+. It doesn't matter if you understood this.

What's happening is that FCP can't handle compressed audio in RT; so you have a red render bar - which is giving you the beeping.

Final Cut Pro is optimized to work with footage in 'common' video formats - formats that are geared for editing. The problem with the supercompressed stuff like this is that it's meant for distribution, not really for editing.

Camera based (and editing based) codecs usually have all the information on every frame. There's less decoding for the editorial software (and less rendering) because the software has to essentially decode one frame.

Distribution codecs usually have a full frame…and then a series of frames that are only changes. Editorial software has to cache up to 15 frames to decode a single frame; it's stressful and the renders are far longer.

*Getting settings right is a pain*. So, starting in FCP 5, when you drop the first clip into the timeline, FCP will ask if you want to set the sequence to match your footage. Performance will be optimized this way. If you do this - you'll have Real Time (RT) video, audio, many effects and transitions - and the ability to tell FCP to use Unlimited RT - a way of having FCP play frames that might need rendering…without rendering (yes, I"m simplifying)

+But that only works when it's a piece of video optimized for editorial+

When you drop footage that is not standard, FCP still shows you the dialog box asking if you want to conform the sequence. It builds a sequence that matches the footage (as close as possible) You'll get zero RT effects, but you'll be able to play the video. But compressed audio ain't happening. Don't ask me why, I can only guess that the priority of non-standard, compressed audio is below other priority features/programming/bugfixes.

How to solve your problem. If you set this up, you can automate this. Reading this will take far longer than actually doing it.

We need to get your video into something native that FCP can edit - especially the audio.

We'll start by dragging a piece of your video into Compressor. Then under settings type LT into the search box. The top hit should be for Apple ProRes 422 (LT) - a less compressed codec.

But Apple hasn't gotten our audio right. So we need to fix it, save the preset…and then to automate the process save our setting as a droplet.

Fix the audio:
1) Select the ProRes LT setting in the top window and the inspector will light up.
2) The first inspector tab is for the Summary - we need to press the second one to get access to the encoders.
3) On the encoder tab, we need to switch the audio from Pass-through to enabled.
4) Then we're going to press the settings button.
5) Change the Format to Linear PCM, Stereo (L R), 48kHz, sample size 16 bits. Press Okay.

We now have THIS setting correct.

6) On the bottom right of the inspector is a button called SAVE AS… 7) Call this iPhone to FCP (ProRes LT)

Let's make a droplet

8) Clear the Search field on the Settings window.
9) Open the Custom Group
10) Select the iPhone to FCP (ProRes LT) and press the button at the top left of the Settings window that looks like a video file with a down arrow.
11) Save the droplet to your desktop.

Now you can drag your iPhone movies to the droplet, it'll throw up a dialog box, press submit and Compressor will transcode all your files to ProRes, ready to go in FCP.

*I did all of this for you. Here's the linked file http://files.me.com/jeffgreenberg/8iprtv*

+tl;dr Pass the files through compressor using the ProRes LT setting with one modification. It'll create much bigger files, but FCP will work (full RT effects.)+


MacBookPro, Mac OS X (10.6.4)


Categories: Final Cut Pro Tags: finalcut_pro_finalcutstudio, finalcutpro

Jun 19, 2012 1:15 PM in response to Libby Hague

The normal workflow for media which originates in formats that are not designed for editing is:


Convert the source footage to ProRes.

Edit in ProRes.

Export ProRes quicktime master file.

Convert exported quicktime master file to delivery format of choice.

Deliver.


So in your case - convert your source iPhone files to ProRes.

Edit in ProRes.

Export ProRes Quicktime file of finished sequence.

Convert that file to format of your choice - for example, back to H.264 for YouTube.

Upload to YouTube.


The ProRes conversion process does not degrade your souce footage - it is designed to work with footage that originates from much more accurate sources than an iPhone.


The conversion from your exported ProRes file of your master sequence, to your delivery format, can either be accomplished by opening the file in Quicktime 7 Pro and exporting it in the format you want, or by using Compressor.


MtD

Jun 19, 2012 8:07 PM in response to Meg The Dog

H i Meg, Guess what it worked. I can't believe it. Thank you very much, I think i'll give you a film credit on my website and you tube. Shall I?

Obviously I only have a flimsy grasp of these matters and your help was essential. I have organized a series of performances in an art installation and I have videotaped them and after all the great work the performers did we would be devastated not to have them documented. This set back cost me maybe 20 hours but at least it worked out. ( not finished yet but the test was successful.

best

Libby

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