10 Replies Latest reply: Aug 3, 2014 8:37 PM by gronealuck
edteck Level 1 Level 1

I'm working on an iBook on Propaganda in WW II and would like to include loads of videos.


The Internet Archive has a great collection:

Example: "Out of the Frying Pan Into the Firing Line (1942)" 



Most are in mp4 format.  I have tried bringing the mp4 into QT or iMovie and both seem to do about the same job of converting. Plus they increase file size by about 50%


Primary question

I'm targeting my iBook as a free resource for schools. File size is an issue for school iPads that might be 16 GB. Is there anyway to reduce file size, without losing quality? I saw some discussions about Compressor, but that seems to be designed for Final Cut Pro and I'm not a video expert.


Secondary question:

Is there any way to improve the quality of these old videos. Perhaps there are some settings I'm missing in QT or iMovie??


I'm an instructional design guy - not a video guy. Your suggestions will be greatly appreciated ... especially in  laymen's terms.



MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7.4)
  • MichiHenning Level 4 Level 4

    I had a look at that video. It's 480x360, with a bit rate of 560 kB/sec.


    You can use Handbrake (free) to transcode the video to any bit rate you like. Use the iPad preset, change from the default "Constant quality" setting to "Average bit rate", select "2-pass encoding" and "Turbo first pass". Set the bit rate to 500 kB/sec, and you'll get a video very much the same size as the original. (Allow the anamorphic encoding with rounding, so you get a 480x352 video output.)


    You can tinker with the bit rate to trade off quality for size. You can also change the size of the video to make it smaller. (Making it larger is pointless, because the program can't put back information that wasn't there in the first place.)


    Handbrake also allows you to change aspect ratio via cropping and/or stretching.



  • K T Level 7 Level 7

    Secondary question:

    Is there any way to improve the quality of these old videos. Perhaps there are some settings I'm missing in QT or iMovie??

    It may depend strictly on your particular content. You'd need to work with it and see how it looks on a device, but practically speaking, you can't do much if the video is poor. If it is simply standard video, you can output in a HD format but there isn't any magic that will make it perfect, of course.


    As for size tho, the tools available, such as Apple's Compressor, work to generate platform specific (iPad) content while reducing size and keeping quality as high as possible.


    I suggest to get to work and see what you can do...the good news is the tools and your target are easily compatible so you won't need to do much more than pick the output and go.

  • edteck Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Michi - thanks for responding


    I appreciate your suggestion to go to Handbrake. As you said it did a conversion and kept it about the same file size. The problem is that the M4v I created using the steps above is not accepted into iBookAuthor. I still had to run it through QT to make it acceptable for IBA and that increases file size from 16 MB to 41 MB.


    Have you been able to use Handbrake to produce video that IBA accepts?


    I found this other thread https://discussions.apple.com/message/17373352#17373352  that suggests that IBook Author is a bit fussy about what it accepts.  You'll see my comment "edteck" showing I tried Subler as suggested by imshapp, but couldn't get it to work.


    Still trying, if you have any more suggestions.



  • edteck Level 1 Level 1

    Hi KT -


    You'll see from my reply to Michi, I'm still not there yet.


    You mention Compressor as on option.


    I'd be willing to pay for Compressor if it worked for my very specific goal -  converting these old mp4  from internet archive a file that's acceptable by iBook Author. (I'm not using Final Cut Pro, after all)


    1. Will compressor do that?

    2. Can a video dolt (like me) run compressor?





  • tk0us Level 2 Level 2

    Get QuickTime Pro and export for web. saves files in more compressed .m4v sizes.


    place the movies in Keynote and export to iTunes


    Both have worked for me...

  • MichiHenning Level 4 Level 4

    Have you been able to use Handbrake to produce video that IBA accepts?

    No, not directly. The m4v files produced by Handbrake won't be accepted by IBA, sorry :-(  You can use Handbrake to transcode to a lower bit rate and to change aspect ratio, and then convert the file produced by Handbrake with QT, iMovie, or iTunes. But, as you say, that roughly doubles the file size.


    I'm sorry, I can't find a work-around for that size blow-out.



  • edteck Level 1 Level 1

    I'm keeping a "Working with IBA" collection at Scoop.it. 




    I posted a link to this discussion ... and I received a comment (at Scoop.it) from Frank Lowney that's interesting. I don't have Pages, but I may get it try this out. (cheaper than Compressor!)


    Frank comments:


    "Strange but apparently true. I downloaded a 320x240 *.mp4 file from the Internet Archive and compressed it with the latest version of Handbrake using the iPhone/iPod touch preset. The result was 2.6 MB smaller that what I had downloaded. As predicted, iBooks Author rejected it suggesting I use QuickTime X Player. I did that using the iPod touch/iPhone 3GS preset but the result was a whopping 21.9 MB larger!

    Let's remember that the sole target of what iBooks Author outputs is iBooks on the iPad, nothing else.

    Next, I use Pages to create an *.epub file with the Handbrake encoded movie in it. Guess what? It plays just fine in iBooks!

    So something is fishy here."

  • YouriPadBookDotCom Level 1 Level 1

    I use iMovie to create mp4s, or do you recommend handbrake?



  • peterwhitetom Level 1 Level 1

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  • gronealuck Level 1 Level 1

    Though there are many Video Compressors, they either compress video in poor output quality or support few video formats.


    There is an article which just aims to introduce a powerful video compressor and a detailed guide on how to reduce the file size of various video without any video quality loss.


    Happy with it.