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Q: Time Zone Support is STUPID!!!!!

I've tried all kinds of combinations between my MacBook Pro iCal and my iPhone and it just doesn't work.

 

First, with iCal on my laptop, turning time zone support on gives the option of selecting which time zone to display and set events on the calendar.  With support off, the calendar updates times depending on which time zone you're in.  This makes no sense!!!  If anything, the calendar times should stay fixed and not change at all if support is off.  Turning support on should make the calendar adjust times.

 

Second, what's the point for entering times in different time zones anyway?  If I have a meeting or a flight anywhere in the world, the time is the time no matter what.  If I have travel to a different time zone and I set an event for 2 PM, that event will change time when I go to another time zone giving me the wrong time.  If I set the event for 2 PM in a different time zone, it will diplay the wrong time in my current time zone. 

 

Third, there is no option to start in one time zone and end in another.  I fly all the time.  If I turn time zone support on and set a time for a departing flight at 4 PM Eastern, there is no option to arrive at a time in another time zone, so the arrival time will be wrong when the calendar updates in the arriving time zone. If I turn support off, and set an event to start at 4 PM and travel an hour ahead, the calendar will then say the event is at 5 PM when it updates in the new time zone, which is wrong and I'll miss that event.

 

If I turn my laptop calendar time zone support and iPhone TZS both on or off, times keep getting screwed up.  If one is on and one is off, it gets screwed up. Just as an example, to keep my laptop calendar to have the actual time of all my events no matter where I am, I turned time zone support on and set to Central time, where I live.  With TZS off, all my times would change to one hour ahead when I go to the Eastern time zone which would screw up any event I would need to refer to.  My iPhone has TZS on as well.  I have a flight at 3:30 eastern arriving home at 4:30 central, but if I create the event in eastern at 3:30 there is no option to finish in central, so I would have to mark my arrival as 5:30 eastern.  When I get home, my calendar would say I left at 2:30 and arrived at 4:30.  If I had looked at my calendar before my trip to the eastern time zone, my calendar would say I'm leaving at 2:30, which is wrong for the zone I would leave from, but the arrival time is correct. 

 

Now, with all TZS turned on, and my calendar set to central, and a 3:30 PM Eastern flight with a 24 hour advance alert, my phone alerted me at 4:30 Eastern of my 3:30 Eastern flight because my calendar was set to Central time, not Eastern.  Had I had TZS turned off and entered the flight as 3:30, it would display at 4:30 when I arrived in Eastern and my departure and arrival time would be wrong when my calendar updated once in returned to Central and, while still in the Eastern zone, every single event in my calendar would be advance by one hour to reflect the Eastern zone and would be wrong for the actual time those events were to take place in Central, or any other time zone.

 

If I lived in New York and I traveled to Los Angeles and had an 8 AM meeting in LA, while in NY my calendar would say I had a 11 AM meeting if TZS was on and set to Eastern and wouldn't change to 8 until I manually selected the Pacific time zone.  If TZS was off, my 8 AM meeting would display as 5 AM when I arrived in LA and the calendar updated automatically.

 

The whole system just makes no sense at all and serves no purpose that I can see.  The time is the time regardless of where I am or what time zone I'm in. I will always be where I am and the time will always be the time.  Why make it change?  I want to look at my calendar and have the right time no matter where I am.  Apple needs to fix this thing to either add multiple time zones for a single event's start and end time and display the time zone in the calendar or they need to get rid of time zone support altogether.

 

If anybody knows of a way to keep the calendar on both the computer and the iPhone to actually work in a manner that doesn't change times and will alert me to the actual time of events regardless of time zones I'd love to hear it.  Outside of turning off location services, which will screw up every other app, I don't see a fix.  Unless Apple give the option to turn of location services for iCal on the iPhone.

iPhone 4S, iOS 5.1.1, Aslo MacBook Pro 15 inch Early 2008

Posted on Jun 21, 2012 12:09 PM

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  • by hotwheels 22,

    hotwheels 22 hotwheels 22 Feb 15, 2014 2:45 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 2:45 PM in response to D Hull

    i'm on this jag where i think i am going to buy BC, then i think i am going to move to google, then i think i am going to test my settings again on my next trip and just deal with the various hassles until they work things out. then i think i am going to buy BC, then i think i am going to move to google....

  • by HansWorldTravels,

    HansWorldTravels HansWorldTravels Feb 15, 2014 2:50 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 2:50 PM in response to D Hull

    Sorry, I've talked repeatedly in the past b4 about Sunrise App for the phone.... Test it endlessly bouncing from time zone to time zone endlessly.  It never fails & they are continually updating & improving it. Try that.... Under 5 minutes to setup multi accounts painlessly. :)

  • by D Hull,

    D Hull D Hull Feb 15, 2014 2:53 PM in response to HansWorldTravels
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    Feb 15, 2014 2:53 PM in response to HansWorldTravels

    It might be fine but it's worthless to me if it doesn't work across three macs, an iPad and two iPhones via the cloud. I can see where I can get it for the phone, but that's not gonna cover it. Am I missing something?

  • by HansWorldTravels,

    HansWorldTravels HansWorldTravels Feb 15, 2014 3:01 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:01 PM in response to D Hull

    It does work on iPhone & iPad(I don't have one). It is pulling from the servers/cloud. I just noticed the other day.... I'm using outlook.... I had an event invite through outlook, it pushed automatically to sunrise, I accepted in sunrise, it instantly pushed back to outlook. No glitches, flaws, nothing.

     

    I can only lead horses to water, can't make anyone drink. If people aren't willing to try something that takes 5 minutes to setup, less to remove it... Just to see how it works, there's nothing left to say bc the truth is.... Apple will not change an effing thing. End of story.

  • by D Hull,

    D Hull D Hull Feb 15, 2014 3:07 PM in response to HansWorldTravels
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:07 PM in response to HansWorldTravels

    I am not sure what &amp means. It does not seem to offer a version for the Mac, which is essential. That was my question. If you don't know please say so.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 15, 2014 3:14 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:14 PM in response to D Hull

    D Hull wrote:

     

    I am not sure what &amp means. It does not seem to offer a version for the Mac, which is essential. That was my question. If you don't know please say so.

    "&amp" is what happens when you post to this forum from Safari on iOS and use the ampersand (&). Any place you see it, just assume "&".

  • by HansWorldTravels,

    HansWorldTravels HansWorldTravels Feb 15, 2014 3:36 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:36 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    The problem as I recall it is that Mac's do not automatically update to a time zone when you arrive, which is the same as a PC based laptop. However, all phones do this windows, iPhones, etc.  Therefore, Apple but a feature TZS into the computers to address this.... They also put TZS into iPhones, iPads, etc as well which is not needed bc being connected to cellular, the time automatically updates. Bc of it being on both the computer (which needs it apparently, I don't think it does) and also on the devices (which definitely do not need it), they don't play well with each other & all the problems start.

     

    Don't worry about it on the Macs. Put it on your devices, try & play with it there. Ie create an event in Sunrise... Adjust TZs there, it's obvious. See how it reacts in your Macs. Know it will adjust correctly when you change TZs in person, based on what I am telling you. If you go somewhere in the flesh with your Mac.... Suck it up just like everyone else that had a laptop & has to manually adjust the computer clock.

     

    Apple tried to make a solution. It doesn't work. They are not supporting it, nor will they fix or remove it.... There is nothing left to say.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 15, 2014 3:37 PM in response to HansWorldTravels
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:37 PM in response to HansWorldTravels

    HansWorldTravels wrote:

     

    Apple tried to make a solution. It doesn't work. They are not supporting it, nor will they fix or remove it.... There is nothing left to say.

    I'm not sure why you're replying to me. I don't have a problem. Perhaps you meant this reposnse for someone else?

  • by D Hull,

    D Hull D Hull Feb 15, 2014 3:41 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:41 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    I'm replying because you've suggested an alternative software. Now you're saying don't worry about the mac, it'll show up there. I don't understand how it will do that if there is not a version for the Mac. I'm trying to understand what you are telling me.

     

    I usually, but not always, set up my events on the mac which is supposed to automatically send them to the other devices connected to this calendar.

     

    My original question was is there an alternative software that works across both OSs and the cloud. Your answer to that question was incomplete. If you don't know, just say so. No offense, but I do know what I need.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 15, 2014 3:49 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:49 PM in response to D Hull

    D Hull wrote:

     

    I'm replying because you've suggested an alternative software.

    You didn't reply to me and I never said you were. I was replying to HansWorldTravel.  I never suggested any alternative software. I merely explained what "&amp" meant.

     

    I am not HansWorldTravels. I think that's who you want to be replying to.

  • by D Hull,

    D Hull D Hull Feb 15, 2014 3:50 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:50 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Sorry, you're quite right. My mistake.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 15, 2014 3:50 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:50 PM in response to D Hull

    No worries! I'd begun to think I might be losing my mind!

  • by D Hull,

    D Hull D Hull Feb 15, 2014 3:59 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Feb 15, 2014 3:59 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Nope, it was me, losing mine!

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 15, 2014 4:00 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 4:00 PM in response to D Hull

    It's those pesky ampersands.....

  • by HansWorldTravels,

    HansWorldTravels HansWorldTravels Feb 15, 2014 6:10 PM in response to D Hull
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    Feb 15, 2014 6:10 PM in response to D Hull

    ICal is the program is it not? Macs or iDevices is where it is expressed. iCal is over the web... It is where the data is.  The problem was with the same software operating on comps that did not update time automatically and devices that did. Apple put in a software fix, applied it equally to those that needed it & those that don't.... Hence the problem. Your emails & events are just data that is expressed thru iCal or other software that can work with the data as well... Which can then be modified which will then express itself in other software. iCal on your Mac can be your primary device to read & modify the data, that doesn't matter. But you can use other softwares on your devices to read & modify that data as well aka Sunrise App.

     

    Stop thinking about using TZS and also the concept of floating events that was a user workaround to the TZS that did not work.

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