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iMac 27" Screen goes black repeatedly, but then settles for a while?

Hi


I have searched and found numerous posts which sound similar to mine, but none seem to be so bad. Its a long post, but I want to make I have given as much information as possible


My Energy Saver settings are default 10 minutes for display & computer sleep, but I always find the screen will go black for a period of time before it goes to sleep and normally when I go back to it I press the keyboard or trackpad and the screen comes back to life. However, this time it didn't. I tried everything I could, but in the end I had to hold down the power button until it turned off. Once I restarted it was ok again.


I didn't think much of it, but I researched and found lots of people had similar issues, but were mainly on MacBooks. I did find a post where people had set a hot corner to turn the display off, so if the problem happened again they went into the hot corner and then came out of it and the display would come back on. This stops the need for having to force the computer off. I set up a hot corner, just in case it happened to me again and I'm glad I did.


In the last couple of weeks the display has been going off at random whilst I have been using it, nothing graphic intensive, just web browsing. Going into my hot corner and coming out of it bought the display back to life thankfully. It was yesterday that things got really bad, to the point that the display was staying on for about 3-4 seconds before going off. Again, going in & out of the hot corner worked, but then it didn't. Initially I thought it maybe some kind of software issue, but when I restarted the grey screen would only show for about 3 seconds and then go black, so I didn't even see the Apple logo. I could hear everything start and it would pause at the logon screen. Going in and out of the hot corner several times finally gave me enough time to login before it went off again.


After logging in I got it back only for it to go off again. I tired everything I could to get the screen to come back to life but it didn't want to play. All the time everything was working on the iMac, it wasn't frozen and didn't crash, just no display. I did some research on my iPad and this seems to be a common problem in one form or another, but no one that I could see had it as bad as mine. Some people were saying it was software related, other that it was logic boards, but as I said earlier I think the majority of posts related to MacBooks and not iMacs.


This was my first Apple purchase and I feel like a fish out of water as I have always had PC's before and if they went wrong I just fixed it myself, but I don't think this is going to be the case this time.


Very late last night I managed to get the display on long enough to run iBoostUp and let it give everything a spring clean. It kept going off whilst it was doing its things, but I did manage to get the display back for long enough to shut it down fully and I left it unplugged over night.


It started working fine this morning, but after more reading I have reset SMC and PRAM as that advice seems to be given a lot when people are having problems.


I have been using it for roughly a couple of hours and it has just this second gone off for the first time. I did my hot corner trick to get it back, then about 3 sends it went again. Now it seems to be ok again. The only program running is Safari.


I am running Lion 10.7.4 with all updates done and I am not running Boot camp for Windows 7 I thought about doing a clean install, but I am not convinced that is going to work and don't want to go through all the hassle of that only to find it still does it! Taking it to Apple worries me, because as its intermittent it may not do it whilst they have it and also I am worried about all my personal data I have on it. Would they wipe the hard drive and would they access my files? I have never had this worry before as any PC problems I just switched problem items myself. The machine will be a year old in a couple of months and I am already thinking the AppleCare Protection Plus is a very good deal and a must have at £139 for two extra years warranty.


Any suggestions great fully received.


Thank you.

iMac (27-inch Mid 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.4), 12GB RAM 1TB, AMD Radeon HD 6970M

Posted on Jun 24, 2012 5:44 AM

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Jul 4, 2012 12:24 AM in response to Stepppy

Well after a pretty good weekend, with Sunday the screen going black just the once, it has not started to get really bad again.


When I first wake it up the screen will behave for about 30 mins, then it will play up and only stay on for about 3 secs at a time. This carries on for about 10-15 mins, then after that it will be fine for the rest of the night, maybe going off once, but will stay on after doing the "Shift+Ctrl+Eject" trick.


I did a Carbon Copy Clone of my drive and booted from that and had exactly the same problem, so I would seem to point to a hardware issue 😕

Jul 7, 2012 6:42 AM in response to Dr.Q

Well finally some good news! The iMac seems to be working fine after they put a 2nd new video card into it. I've been running it for a day now and no problems and the screen is extremely sharp and clear.


Recall the first time they replaced the video card it wound up with a bad case of pixelitis ( new word I just invented ) and their fix was to just get another card from Apple and replace this one. It makes me think the video card design may be on the ragged edge or there was a issue with some of the card components.


That's all for now but I hope this has helped some of you in figuring out your issues.


CU


Jim

Jul 7, 2012 7:14 AM in response to Dr.Q

Thanks for the update.


Good news that you seem to have finally got your iMac sorted. Its good to know now that if mine deteriorates any more then I have an idea on what needs to be done.


I am going to wait until Mountain Lion comes out and see if for some reason things improve, just in case its a software issue ......


I will definitely be buying the extended Apple Care before my warranty expires at the end of August.

Jul 7, 2012 8:16 AM in response to Stepppy

I had a similar problem with mine as well. I've had the iMac for 8 mths. The screen started flickering and then this past tuesday, the left side of the screen went a lot darker than the right side. I called apple and after some troubleshooting (which didn't work) I had to take it in where they replaced the LCD screen.

Jul 9, 2012 8:00 AM in response to Stepppy

I too have been having the same problem. I had our local mac guys check it out and as I expected nothing happened.


But it made me think what has changed? And then I realized that my business partner added another computer to the same power circuit.


So—I now have had it on its own circuit without issue. So I spoke with the tech and he did agreed that the crash makes sense now and that it would be caused by lack of power.


If this helps.

Jul 9, 2012 5:35 PM in response to Slugtcao

Hi Slugtcao


I have serious reservations the 2nd computer on the circuit is your problem. For another computer to be on the circuit drawing maybe 200 watts to cause a problem would suggest a very serious wiring problem that would show up in some other manifestations such as circuit breakers always tripping or other serious desk lamp dimming etc.


Given what I found on mine, I.e., a bad video card, it would seem your issue is the hardware of the computer and not the line voltage. I might note that mine took a period of several weeks before it became consistent enough in its failures for me to decide something needed to be done.


Of course there are always things that defy common sense logic but I think the line voltage is an issue that, although not impossible, is of almost non existent probability.


Keep us tuned in to what you found


Jim

Jul 9, 2012 6:25 PM in response to Slugtcao

Hello again Slugcato


According to the Apple site the new 27" iMac's draw a maximum of 310 watts and the miniMac draws a maximum of 85 watts which is 1015 watts plus the monitor for the miniMac. This is still below the maximum you might expect from a normal house breaker which can easily support a 1500 watt hair dryer and should actually handle over 1700 watts before a breaker would start to trip. The fact you have a 400 watt UPS is of no consequence unless you have a main power interruption in which case the UPS would likely not do any good and fail under the overload.


The biggest problem from such a load on your circuit is voltage drop in the line leading to your computer but the iMac's are speced to run with a line voltage all the way down to 100 volts. As i indicated earlier, if the voltage got that low I am sure you would see some other artifact such as the UPS tripping, the lights in your room being noticably dim etc.


Another thought that comes to mind is that perhaps you somehow have an IP address conflict between the miniMac and the iMac that is quitting. I run into that quite a bit with my Wife's computer as I have 6 machines in my office that are on for awhile and then off for awhile and from time to time turning on one of mine will cause hers to hang and invariable it is because somehow the router is assigning the same address to both machines.


Any other insights you can think of would be interesting to hear about.


C U


Jim


Fat Fingered from my iPad

Jul 13, 2012 8:42 AM in response to Stepppy

Here's an update on my Mac.


I made the new user account ( which was a pain setting everything back up the way I like it) and the problem disappeared for a couple of days. BUT it came back! I haven't had a lot of time, due my in-laws health issues, so that was as far as I've gotten and have just been dealing with random screen shut offs.


Last night, the screen was shutting off right and left. So I had the inspiration to check to see if the LCD was still on and maybe the backlight was the problem. Turns out thats my problem.


To check this you need a fairly darkened room. Take a bright flashlight/torch and hold it by the darkened screen at approximately a 45 degree angle to the surface ( it might take a little fiddling with the angle to find what works for you). IF the LCD is still on, you should be able to see open programs or whatever you were running through the glass. I set up a browser window that had lots of white on it, like this site. Then I could command W to close the window and watch it happen to be sure I was seeing what I thought I was seeing.


So now I have to get it in again so this can be repaired. Which will be hard to do with a tight schedule.


Hope this helps.

Jul 13, 2012 3:53 PM in response to jjhaffner

It has just happened to me again tonight and I tried your trick and mine is just the same as yours.


It took a while for my eyes to adjust, but I had the light off and the email update to this post and I could clearly see the white box with 'Apple Support Communities" 🙂


Its good to know this fact, so when it gets too bad to handle I can go about getting it sorted.


Knowing the above I may pop in and see if Apple are aware of this specific problem.


Many thanks 😎

Jul 14, 2012 1:24 PM in response to jjhaffner

Apple has my Mac. They ordered a backlight kit for it and a LCD kit as well, just in case. They're going to run some tests to see if they can replicate the problem.


Here's their notes:


"Problem Description/Diagnosis

Issue: Customer states that unit is turning the backlight off intermittently, at lest happening a couple times a day, customer is having to press control shift eject then control shift like switching to external monitors and it will come back.

Steps to Reproduce: Could not duplicate at bar but has been in before for same issue,

Proposed Resolution: Run asd while waiting on part, see if backlight will go out in the asd os, if does replace backlight board. Loop in os until issue is verified,

Cosmetic Condition: No dents on edges, light dusting on stand and finger prints on LCD.

Known Liquid Damage: No

Check-in Required: Yes

Estimated Turn Around Time: We'll call you in 3 - 5 days

Mac OS Version: 10.7.4

Hard Drive Size: 1TB

Memory Size: 12 GB

iLife Version: Unknown"


We'll see...

iMac 27" Screen goes black repeatedly, but then settles for a while?

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