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Steven Shmerler Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

I'd like to rip my DVDs each to a single file I can import into iTunes so I can play them on my various Apple devices and not lose quality, extras, menus or surround sound (5.1 or 7.1) done with an Apple program. I see many ripping applications online that are Windows based. I need Mac. I want to have the same features and quality available on the one file as I would if I were playing the DVD on my DVD player.


I have an AppleTV2 (plugged into a 55" LED TV), iPad1 and iPhone4.


I'm also on Lion 10.7.4 now.


Is there such a Mac application that can do all this?

Mac Pro 3.0 GHz Quad-Core, iPad WiFi/3G, iPhone4, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 30" HP Display, 22" Cinema Display
  • Limnos Level 8 Level 8 (45,385 points)

    No program can rip DVDs to a format that keeps all you want to keep and play it on iTunes.  The only way you can have it in computer format and play it like on a DVD player is to keep it in DVD format.  If this is a home DVD you can do that just by copying all the files to a hard drive.  If it is a commercially produced DVD just about all those have copy protection and we are not allowed by the terms of use of this forum to discuss doing that on a Mac.  It is illegal by US law anyway.

  • Steven Shmerler Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    Ooops. I certainly now about copy protection but because I own my DVDs and bought them new at legitimate stores, and all I want to do is change how it's stored since you can't watch a DVD on my devices, I never realized that that would be illegal since I bought them and everyone that is supposed to get paid in the copyright line, got their money. But I apologize to the Forum. It was ignorance on my part as I certainly wouldn't have posted otherwise. Maybe Apple can delete this threat then. But thanks for the education. I assumed the copyright issues only pertained to pirating which this is most definitely not. Thanks.

  • Limnos Level 8 Level 8 (45,385 points)

    No, it's illegal even for DVDs you have bought.  The catch isn't (as roaminggnome's links indicate) so much in discussing the right to back up DVDs but simply the act of circumventing the copy protection on the DVDs.  Thank you powerful media companies and our lawmakers.  It's like a parent and a child having a dispute over the child being allowed to have a second cookie and the parent saying the issue is moot because a flat rule has been passed that the child isn't allowed in the kitchen and so can't even get to the cookie jar.

  • Steven Shmerler Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    I assume it quite obvious to you all that I am new to even thinking about backing up my DVDs.  This thinking and question asking only started after I got an AppleTV the other week and started to wonder about how would I view my DVDs (that I legally bought new) thru my brandy new cool AppleTV?


    Well, I guess logic does not necessarily breed "legal."  Hopefully backing up legally purchased content will become legal someday as we watch the makers of things like AppleTV wrestle the Studios that make the content the hardware is pushing to allow you to watch.


    Transition is indeed an interesting time.


    Guys, thanks for bringing all this to my attention. I bet there are many law abiding citizens who buy their media, haven't a clue that backing up could possibly be illegal.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (78,075 points)

    Regardless of the legality, (and as Limnos pointed out) you cannot view a RIP'd DVD the same way thru iTunes as you can on a regualr DVD player (with menus & extras and such).

    Apple developed the -> iTunes Extras and iTunes LP for iTunes, which is similar to a regular DVD.

    You can add all the content but it would be a pain to do for individual movies.

  • Eric Eskam Level 2 Level 2 (260 points)

    Steven Shmerler wrote:


    Guys, thanks for bringing all this to my attention. I bet there are many law abiding citizens who buy their media, haven't a clue that backing up could possibly be illegal.


    Sigh - it's not illegal - it even says so in one of the many articles that roaminggnome linked to:


    But while it’s apparently illegal under the DMCA for a company to sell software facilitating the copying of a DVD by bypassing its encryption, Patel didn’t go so far as to say copying a DVD for personal use was illegal. Patel stated the dilemma thusly:

    [W]hile it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual’s computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies.”

    So backing up DVD's is still allowed under fair use - that has NEVER changed.  But due to the wonderful digital millennium copyright act (DMCA), it's illegal to make a to make or distribute tools to do so.  Our wonderful congress at work protecting us!


    I'm finding it easier and easier to give hollywood the finger and focus supporting new and original content on new producers like Netflix, Amazon or other independent online sources FIRST.  I do like somethings Hollywood provides and am willing to put up with their shenanigans for some content, but if I'm making a choice between two pieces of similar content and there is a less restrictive more consumer friendly version of the content, I'll pick the latter every time.  If enough people started doing this things might change.  For the record I'm not a blind idealist and I'm not counting on it, but I choose to hope to be pleasantly surprised one day

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (78,075 points)

    "W]hile it may well be fair use

    This does not say it is legal to do so. Just that even if it is legal, it is irrelevant to the fact that making/selling device/tool to make backups is illegal.


    From the original article you linked to...

    "Patel didn’t go so far as to say copying a DVD for personal use was illegal."

    He also did not go so far to say copying a DVD for personal use is legal.


    Also, backing up may be legal but breaking the encryption is illegal. And you cannot backup a DVD without breaking the encryption.


    So backing up DVD's is still allowed under fair use - that has NEVER changed.

    As long as you do not break/bypass the encrpytion on a DVD, correct.

  • Steven Shmerler Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    I imagine that this will get some folks here upset, but I just need to express that I legally paid for my CDs and DVDs not used but new so everyone in the royalty chain got their money. I have an iPad and iPhone find it abusive to make us buy a digital copy like from say iTunes just so you can legally have a potable copy on your mobile device(s) or your iTunes library so you can stream via AppleTV to your home theater.


    The short sighted issue for me is that all these laws are doing is slowly killing the DVD in favor of getting digital movies. Having worked in the record industry for 28 years, yes other complex issues were involved, but to watch retailer after retailer close, ultimately the DVD stores will and are already facing the same issue. I remember all the plans to press CDs on demand at retail which didn't happen because the industry was too damaged already and pirating was too huge plus the public were returning to a song versus album mentality as so many albums were one hit products and when the web made it possible to steal or legally buy a single, the CD album was next to over.


    A movie is a movie and there's one per DVD so big difference there. but like digital music on your computer or devices, the easy of maying playlists or instantly accessing all your content is another reason people want their movies digitized. So if you can't legally buy a DVD and rip then the incentive to own shelves full of DVDs that you have to play in a player one by one is a waste of shelf space and ignoring ease of use already the lay of the land for music content.


    So I've stopped buying DVDs. I don't care about the packaging any more as the ease of use for a digital copy is more important. And they're cheaper and invisible storage wise compared to physical DVDs.


    So soon the DVD will be dead. Even new laptops don't come with DVD players/burners. Pushing us all the more to go digital only. And with that the DVD manufacturers and retailers will suffer greatly.

  • Umbo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I couldn't agree more.  Soon the same will apply to all media.  Apple itself has found, twice to my knowledge that the only way to keep their own crown jewels and guard again deteroiation is on acid free paper in a temperature and humidity controlled vault. What happens when the constituion is only digital, with a backup stored like Apple.  Who will know if, when, and how it is changed.  This is the ultimate corporacy - another name for facisim.  Where business and government come together to rule the people.


    During the Great Depression a number of prominent American corporations toured the world and decided that Facism was the way to go.  Fearful that Roosevelt would turn the country in a socialistic direction they tried to recruit Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, a charismatic and immensily popular man, and the only marine to twice be awarded the purple heart.  He had led the American military to overthrow many governments throughout the world for American business in Latin and Central America and even China so they thought for sure he was in their pocket.  Unknow to them he had became a pacifist and and given a diatribe against wall street in 1935 at an American Legion meeting (No internet!), and when approached after he had been brought into a hotel room full of money, he reported them to the government. The investigation mysteriously died in the Senate. He also coined the phrase "Beware of the military industrial complex, which President Eisenhower borrowed in his presidential farwell address  Unfortunately it now appears they are close to getting their way today. 

  • Jacobford Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As if you were reading "Ripping DVD's to iTunes for Dummies...."

    I'm looking for something that is essentially the best one step dummy proof (if possible) software to copy my own DVD's into iTunes.


    Any help would be appreciated!


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  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,785 points)

    Jacobford wrote:


    Any help would be appreciated!

    As has been stated earlier in this thread, in the United States it is illegal to break the copy protection on commerically produced DVDs. So the subject can not be discussed on this forum. Google is your friend.

  • Klaim-doc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You can use Handbrake (freeware) to convert files to iTunes compatible.

  • ymsimon824 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Or you can use Vudu In Home Disc to Digital, the legal way to convert your movies into your vudu and ultraviolet accounts in the cloud. You can view your movies on iOS using the Vudu Player app.


    Not all movies support d2d.


    Here are the studios that support d2d:






    Warner Bros.

    Sony Pictures Home Entertainment


    It cost $2.00 for each DVD (SD) conversion, $2.00 for each Blu Ray (HDX) conversion, and $5.00 for each DVD upgrade to HDX conversion.


    They are offering 1 free trial for a DVD (SD) conversion. Expires January 31, 2014

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