How to rip DVDs and keep menus and extras

No program can rip DVDs to a format that keeps all you want to keep and play it on iTunes. The only way you can have it in computer format and play it like on a DVD player is to keep it in DVD format. If this is a home DVD you can do that just by copying all the files to a hard drive. If it is a commercially produced DVD just about all those have copy protection and we are not allowed by the terms of use of this forum to discuss doing that on a Mac. It is illegal by US law anyway.

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No, it's illegal even for DVDs you have bought. The catch isn't (as roaminggnome's links indicate) so much in discussing the right to back up DVDs but simply the act of circumventing the copy protection on the DVDs. Thank you powerful media companies and our lawmakers. It's like a parent and a child having a dispute over the child being allowed to have a second cookie and the parent saying the issue is moot because a flat rule has been passed that the child isn't allowed in the kitchen and so can't even get to the cookie jar.

Regardless of the legality, (and as Limnos pointed out) you cannot view a RIP'd DVD the same way thru iTunes as you can on a regualr DVD player (with menus & extras and such).

Apple developed the -> iTunes Extras and iTunes LP for iTunes, which is similar to a regular DVD.

You can add all the content but it would be a pain to do for individual movies.

Steven Shmerler wrote:

Guys, thanks for bringing all this to my attention. I bet there are many law abiding citizens who buy their media, haven't a clue that backing up could possibly be illegal.

Sigh - it's not illegal - it even says so in one of the many articles that roaminggnome linked to:

But while it’s apparently illegal under the DMCA for a company to sell software facilitating the copying of a DVD by bypassing its encryption, Patel didn’t go so far as to say copying a DVD for personal use was illegal. Patel stated the dilemma thusly:

“[W]hile it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual’s computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies.”

So backing up DVD's is still allowed under fair use - that has NEVER changed. But due to the wonderful digital millennium copyright act (DMCA), it's illegal to make a to make or distribute tools to do so. Our wonderful congress at work protecting us!

I'm finding it easier and easier to give hollywood the finger and focus supporting new and original content on new producers like Netflix, Amazon or other independent online sources FIRST. I do like somethings Hollywood provides and am willing to put up with their shenanigans for some content, but if I'm making a choice between two pieces of similar content and there is a less restrictive more consumer friendly version of the content, I'll pick the latter every time. If enough people started doing this things might change. For the record I'm not a blind idealist and I'm not counting on it, but I choose to hope to be pleasantly surprised one day

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"W]hile it may well be fair use

This does not say it islegal to do so. Just that even if it is legal, it is irrelevant to the fact that making/selling device/tool to make backups is illegal.

From the original article you linked to...

"Patel didn’t go so far as to say copying a DVD for personal use was illegal."

He also did not go so far to say copying a DVD for personal use is legal.

Also, backing up may be legal but breaking the encryption is illegal. And you cannot backup a DVD without breaking the encryption.

So backing up DVD's is still allowed under fair use - that has NEVER changed.

As long as you do not break/bypass the encrpytion on a DVD, correct.

I couldn't agree more. Soon the same will apply to all media. Apple itself has found, twice to my knowledge that the only way to keep their own crown jewels and guard again deteroiation is on acid free paper in a temperature and humidity controlled vault. What happens when the constituion is only digital, with a backup stored like Apple. Who will know if, when, and how it is changed. This is the ultimate corporacy - another name for facisim. Where business and government come together to rule the people.

During the Great Depression a number of prominent American corporations toured the world and decided that Facism was the way to go. Fearful that Roosevelt would turn the country in a socialistic direction they tried to recruit Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, a charismatic and immensily popular man, and the only marine to twice be awarded the purple heart. He had led the American military to overthrow many governments throughout the world for American business in Latin and Central America and even China so they thought for sure he was in their pocket. Unknow to them he had became a pacifist and and given a diatribe against wall street in 1935 at an American Legion meeting (No internet!), and when approached after he had been brought into a hotel room full of money, he reported them to the government. The investigation mysteriously died in the Senate. He also coined the phrase "Beware of the military industrial complex, which President Eisenhower borrowed in his presidential farwell address Unfortunately it now appears they are close to getting their way today.

As if you were reading "Ripping DVD's to iTunes for Dummies...."

I'm looking for something that is essentially the best one step dummy proof (if possible) software to copy my own DVD's into iTunes.

Any help would be appreciated!

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Jacobford wrote:

Any help would be appreciated!

As has been stated earlier in this thread, in the United States it is illegal to break the copy protection on commerically produced DVDs. So the subject can not be discussed on this forum. Google is your friend.

You can use Handbrake (freeware) to convert files to iTunes compatible.

Or you can use Vudu In Home Disc to Digital, the legal way to convert your movies into your vudu and ultraviolet accounts in the cloud. You can view your movies on iOS using the Vudu Player app.

Not all movies support d2d.

Here are the studios that support d2d:

Paramount

Fox

Lionsgate

Universal

Warner Bros.

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment

It cost $2.00 for each DVD (SD) conversion, $2.00 for each Blu Ray (HDX) conversion, and $5.00 for each DVD upgrade to HDX conversion.

They are offering 1 free trial for a DVD (SD) conversion. Expires January 31, 2014

Eric Eskam wrote:

But while it’s apparently illegal under the DMCA for a company to sell software facilitating the copying of a DVD by bypassing its encryption, Patel didn’t go so far as to say copying a DVD for personal use was illegal. Patel stated the dilemma thusly:

“[W]hile it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual’s computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies.”

So backing up DVD's is still allowed under fair use - that has NEVER changed. But due to the wonderful digital millennium copyright act (DMCA), it's illegal to make a to make or distribute tools to do so. Our wonderful congress at work protecting us!

Excellent point, and the ONLY post I've read in this thread that is 100% true.

It IS NOT illegal to have or use "ripping software" per se, for personal copies of media you have paid for.

It IS illegal for anyone to sell or otherwise distribute said software, or to use it for distributing unauthroized copies of said media.

In spite of the MPAA's best efforts and the DMCA, there is still a plethora of "ripping" software out there, and it continues to be distributed (with or without being paid for) at ever increasing rate.

I was chastized in another thread for posting "And the MPAA still wonders why people continue to 'bootleg' movies."

People are nowhere near as dumb as the MPAA thinks we are.

When someone makes $140 million dollars off of a movie at the box office and then sells the five disc Blu-Ray pack a few months later for $49-$69, and they fully expect that people WON'T rip the movie so they can watch it on their laptop, iPad, or iPod without paying another $20 for an "official" digital copy... because it "takes money out of people's hands who deserve it"... that defies logic. I have yet to see a story ANYWHERE about all the starving people in the movie industry. Many of them were able to attend several $10,000 to $25,000 a plate political fundraisers last year. Paupers don't live like that.