How to load mp3s as podcast or create playlist mixing music & podcasts?

I listen to several podcasts which I like to arrange in order using a playlist. I also have several mp3 files which are also podcasts but not via subscription. ITunes will not accept the mp3 files as podcasts and insists they are music even though the genre is clearly set to podcast. Is there a way to get the mp3s accepted by iTunes as pobcasts so that I can include them in my podcast playlist? Or if they must be music is there a way to mix podcasts and music into a single playlist? I o not understand why iTunes needs to be so controlling. Why can't it just accept all mp3s as audio without segregation?

iPod shuffle, Windows XP

Posted on Jun 25, 2012 11:30 AM

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Jun 25, 2012 12:53 PM in response to Old60sHippie

You should be able to simply drag a Podcast episode into a Playlist. I've just confirmed this (even though I'm always doing it) and put two separate episodes into two separate Playlists containing music from my Music Library. You can also right-click any Podcast episode, or song in the Music Library, and scroll down to Add to Playlist.


However, there are a couple of things I'll mention in order that you may understand that it's not that iTunes is "so controlling", it's simply keeping things organised.


First, the definition of a Podcast. (I just know someone will argue with me about this defintion - it's been done before.);

- a Podcast is media (music, a radio programme, video or even a text file) that has been downloaded to your iTunes Library using the Podcast method of distribution. So (here in the UK) if I cannot listen to a BBC radio programme broadcast over the air (proper radio) because I am at work, then I have three options for listening to it after it was broadcast. Either, listen to it as "listen again" by going to the BBC website and playing the file on their website. This is known as streaming. Or, download the file by finding it on the BBC website and selecting the download/save file option, and adding it to my iTunes Library (where it will appear in the Music section). Or finally, by downloading the Podcast, either by finding the file in the Podcast feed and clicking download now or, by subscribing to the Podcast of that programme. It is then downloaded "as a Podcast" and added to the iTunes Podcast Library.


So in every case, it's the same content, but the method of delivering it to you determines whether it's a Podcast or not. Simply downloading something with the genre of "Podcast" does not make it a Podcast. (The Media Kind identifies this, not the genre. Note, identifies, not defines!)


And the point of a Podcast is that if you subscribe to a Podcast version of something, then every new episode of that programme will be automatically delivered to your iTunes without you doing anything at all (except starting iTunes!). Even if you manually select Get Episode from the Podcast list in your lIbrary, it will be added to the Podcast Library, thus keeping things organised for you.


There are several people who say that you can simply change the Media Kind of a something in the Music Library to Podcast and that "makes it a Podcast". It doesn't! It may well put the music in the Podcast Library, but it still isn't a Podcast and I believe that will make an iTunes Library more dis-organised. Why? Well, that brings me to the second thing I will mention, which may explain a possible issue you are experiencing.


When something is downloaded into your iTunes Library "as a Podcast" (using the Podcast method of delivery), iTunes will mark it with Skip when shuffling, which most people find very convenient because it will prevent (for instance, speech) Podcasts from playing when what you actually want to hear is music and not whatever happens to be in the Podcasts. So if you add Podcasts to a Playlist and then play that list in shuffle mode, the Podcasts will be skipped, not played. They will only play in non-shuffle mode.


Even that is useful though. Anyone who owns an iPod Classic will tell you of their frustration that the "Podcasts episodes list" on the Classic is (inexplicably) in reverse order which causes serial episodes to be played in the wrong order! One solution is to set the iPod Classic to play in shuffle songs mode and then start the one Podcast episode that you want to listen to, playing. When that episode finishes, the iPod stops because everything else in that Podcast list is "skipped when shuffling".


So if one of your issues is that you add a (proper) Podcast episode to a Playlist but it doesn't play in shuffle mode, select that episode and click on File/Get Info/Options>Skip when shuffling>off.


And if you decide that you really need to change something in the Music Library to a Podcast, then select it and click on File/Get Info/Options>Media Kind>Podcast. I have read of cases when this either doesn't work (the Podcast option is greyed out) or the file simply goes missing. This is usually because the "Song title" in Music is not the "Progamme name" in Podcasts.



Why (someone will be shouting) do I think I know all about Podcasts? Well, I'm a big fan of them, and here's an example of why.


I live in the UK (if you hadn't already noticed) but there is a music programme, broadcast on radio in Australia, that I like. Obviously I cannot get that broadcast here in the UK, so I subscribe to the Podcast of that programme. Although it's a regular weekly programme, the producers are very slack about posting the new episodes as a download. Sometimes many weeks pass before all the missing episodes become available at one time! So, subscribing to the Podcast of that programme means that I don't waste my time looking for episodes that they have yet to make available. I simply notice the "blue dot" indicating new episodes that have been downloaded automatically by my iTunes without my input. Very useful!


Message was edited by: the fiend

Jun 25, 2012 8:33 PM in response to the fiend

Thanks for your reply. You obviously put serious effort into it.


Just to be sure there is no confusion I may be repeating some things.


Initially I’m starting out with two sources of mp3 files, podcasts as you describe which are received into iTunes via subscription & mp3 files that are just on my computer. These were once podcasts from iTunes which I saved but the subscription is long gone. I’m bringing these unsubscribed podcasts into iTunes by dragging them from the file folder and dropping them into the Library area on the left of iTunes or into the Music list on the right. The effect seems to be the same. I have tried the right click in both iTunes and file explorer and in neither case do I see any mention of Media Type. Perhaps it is a Mac thing. I’ve also searched the Menu bar and the Help. So let’s accept that unsubscribed files cannot be classified as podcasts but must be music. What did work was the Get Info advice. Sadly once classified as a Podcast it disappeared. It still shows in the playlist. I filled in all the other fields to no avail. My theory is that without a subscription iTunes does not know where to list it. So using the playlist entry I put it back to music. So, let’s accept that non-subscribed mp3 files cannot be podcasts and must be music (or as I discovered Audio Book).


Previously I had no trouble adding both kinds of media to a single playlist. Where things went wrong was during the sync. None of the “music” files were transferred to the Shuffle. Poking around iTunes while reading your instructions I discovered that the Device view for my Shuffle not only has selections for Music, Podcast, Books and the playlists on the left, but it also has the same list across the top which reveal different information. Not IMHO Apple’s finest user interface. Anyway I discovered that the check box for Sync Music was not checked. It baffles me why if I had indicated I wanted the playlist synced it would matter what the type of the files were. I can see it would make sense if iTunes were just picking the files but when given a specific list that should be the only consideration. Anyway once both the Podcast & Music sync were checked the entire playlist got transferred.

Jun 26, 2012 2:13 AM in response to Old60sHippie

Old60sHippie wrote:


I have tried the right click in both iTunes and file explorer and in neither case do I see any mention of Media Type.

Highlight the file (music or Podcast episode) in iTunes (not Explorer) and then click on File/Get info/Options>Media Kind. (Media Kind is a drop-down menu on the Options tab, As far as I know, this is the same in both Mac and Windows, but since you've posted in iTunes for Windows, I have assumed that you have a Windows machine, as do I.


However, later on, you say you did get the Get Info bit, and classified something as a Podcast. But that's when you lost track of it. (See below)



Old60sHippie wrote:


. So let’s accept that unsubscribed files cannot be classified as podcasts but must be music.

They can, but it will cause confusion, as you have found.


Old60sHippie wrote:


What did work was the Get Info advice. Sadly once classified as a Podcast it disappeared. It still shows in the playlist.

Yes, that's what I said was likely to happen. This is because the "Podcast" version of the file will now be listed under the album title. So an entry for the song "Here comes the sun" by The Beatles from the album "Abbey Road", which you see listed in Music under H for "Here comes the sun" will become - once you change the Media Kind to Podcast - a "Podcast" with the programme title "Abbey Road" and with an "expansion arrow to the right of it. If you click on the arrow, the list will expand and show the episode name, which will be "Here comes the sun".


Confusing, huh? This is why I don't like the idea of changing the Media Kind to Podcast, it causes more work than it saves!


... And if the song did not have an album title associated with it, then once changed to a "Podcast" it will disappear because it will have no title to list it under!


My advice (which you are free to ignore) is that you leave the Media Kind as it is. Leave Podcasts as Podcasts and Music as Music and saver yourself a lot of work.


You can however, as I hope you know realise, put both Podcasts and Music into the same Playlist. But, you need to remember that the Podcast will be set to skip when shuflling, so if you play that Playlist in shuffle mode, the Podcast will not be played. (I'm not exactly sure what this means when using an iPod Shuffle, since I have no experience of the Shuffle!) What you can do though, is either remember to play Playlists with Podcasts in them in strict order, or, before putting the Podcasts onto your iPod, change the skip when shuffling to off, for each Podcast episode. This has to be done on an episode-by-episode basis.


Phil

{slightly too young - only just - to have been a hippie}

Dec 10, 2016 7:22 PM in response to the fiend

the fiend wrote:

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Old60sHippie wrote:


What did work was the Get Info advice. Sadly once classified as a Podcast it disappeared. ,,,

Yes, that's what I said was likely to happen. ...


Confusing, huh? This is why I don't like the idea of changing the Media Kind to Podcast, it causes more work than it saves!


... And if the song did not have an album title associated with it, then once changed to a "Podcast" it will disappear because it will have no title to list it under!


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On my Shuffle I have mp3 files that are for an audiobook. When I dragged them onto my shuffle (mounted in iTunes) they added as Media Kind "Music." Today I tried to get them to show up under the "Podcast" heading (so that I could play a chapter and then follow it with the play of some already-loaded podcast files, i.e., mp3s that show up on the Shuffle under the "Podcast" category).


And, yes, what happened was that the audiobook mp3 files disappeared from view on my Shuffle when I made that change to the Media Kind!! They are still there on the Shuffle because they are taking space. And when I tried dragging the source files again onto the Shuffle in iTunes, only the previously-heard (and previsouly-deleted from the Shuffle) chapters were added -- the ones that I've not yet played (those "in limbo" files) were not added back in as "Music" type files.


Other than reformat the Shuffle, is there any way to select the files so that the type can be changed back?

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