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27' iMac (2011) Screen turns off

This has been going on for me for the past few months on and off, it just randomly switches the screen off but everything else works perfectly, for example if im watching a video on hulu i can still hear the sound, if im doing work on word the documents are still there, iv finally gotten video footage of it.


Screen turning off:

http://youtu.be/l6DfD7o_fXs


Screenshot of my settings

http://i.imgur.com/pPvUH.jpg


To turn it back on i press "ctrl + shift + eject" and then move the mouse.


Any help will do, i have contacted Apple support on the phone they did say bring it in, just need to make an appointment. If anyone else has this problem and knows a better solution than having to keep pressing buttons to turn the screen back on please share.


Thank you in advance

- Ashadur

iPhone 4S-OTHER, iOS 5

Posted on Jun 27, 2012 3:39 PM

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Posted on Nov 10, 2012 5:26 PM

Thanks for keeping the discussion alive David. My video blackout issue continues and I've never, ever used Filevault encryption.


After living and coping and adapting to the issue for months now, I'm confident my video blackouts are correlated with heat. The warmer our ambient weather the worse the issue seems to become. The brighter the display the quicker the video blackout. We had a big cool down here in OK for the last couple of weeks and the issue became stable running the screen at 6 clicks above minimum brightness. But then it warmed back up a few days ago and high temps outside were in high 80's. Problem cropped up again. We do not heat/cool our home when the temps are not extreme so the inside temps raised and lowered with the ambient. I've taken to using a fan to blow across the heat vent of the machine hoping that this would help a bit. I believe it does. If it truly IS heat correlated then that could indicate a component failure or board-trace failure (due to expansion & contraction).


Thanks again, but encryption isn't the issue with mine.


Mark

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Oct 29, 2013 9:50 AM in response to Ashadur

Another thing i've noticed is that everything the display turns off this is the message that comes up right away on the console (i have console now running on a different display that doesn't turn off when the mac display turns off)


loginwindow[103]: CoreAnimation: warning, deleted thread with uncommitted CATransaction; set CA_DEBUG_TRANSACTIONS=1 in environment to log backtraces.

Oct 30, 2013 3:52 AM in response to neroroxxx

I have this problem for a while now. But in september it changed. At first it got very bad could not work for a few minutes. After letting the iMac rst for a while I restared and the lower left corner was darker then the rest of the screen. This was not always the case but there is an other discussion on this topic. So I opend the iMac and tried to fix the problem with the connector. The backlit connecter was realy loose and by moving it while the iMac was on I could see the effect on the screen. I tried to fix the problem by removing the connector completely and soldiring the wires back on. Till now I was not succesfull because the space is very small.

I put the iMac back together becease I needed to work.


Now with the loose connector the screen is still working but has a darker lower left corner. This is not very nice but I can still use the iMac. Suppricingly the screen turning of does not happen any more. Also the lower left corner of the screen stays cool.


I think the bad connection of the connectot is causing the prolems. When I'm succesful in soldiring the wires I will report again.

Nov 2, 2013 4:09 AM in response to Ashadur

Hi, I hope you find this information useful:


A few years ago, we purchased iMac 27" 11,3 (Mid-2010) (with i7 2.93Ghz, ATI 5750 1GB VidRam, etc.) for our offices and software development team. They were originally shipped with Snow Leopard and worked as expected and without any problems. However, a year later, we upgraded to Lion and all of machines immediately exhibited the same problem: the screen would go to sleep by itself and would require a hard reboot or sleep on/off. (Only the screen was asleep and the rest of the iMac continued to function; this was confirmed by screen sharing to the machine.)


Due to the severity and impact on our business, we immediately contacted Apple and their genius bar staff in New York/SoHo. They were unable to determine the root cause, so they replaced all of the logic boards, video cards, and screens, and got us back online asap. This resolved the problem, but we were curious to know why. After days of rigorous testing, we concluded that the issue is caused by a bug in MacOS. Specifically, faulty Kext files (Kernel Extension files extend the functionality of the MacOS Kernel) for the ATI drivers. So, why did the replacing the hardware work? We think that the Kext files that were released and distributed with Lion (and later MacOS versions) correctly supported the newer hardware revision of the replacement components, but not the older ones.


If you're experiencing this problem, short of replacing the components or waiting (for another 3+ years) for Apple to hopefully fix their OS software, you can lessen the effects and be able to recover faster by doing the following: (Please bear in mind that these are not permanent fixes.)


  1. Turn on "Hot Corners" and assign one corner to "Put Display To Sleep". When your screen goes to sleep, move your mouse (which still works) to that assigned screen corner for a second, then move it again. This will wake your screen. You may have to do this a couple of times, but it's much faster than a hard reboot or a sleep on/off for your iMac.
  2. Turn the brightness of your screen to a low setting (10%-15% of the total brightness).
  3. Turn on screen sharing, so you have a last resort method of accessing the machine.


If you're not convinced that it's a MacOS software problem, then do what we did and see for yourself; install Windows 7, Windows 8, or Linux via Bootcamp or as the only OS on the iMac. Those operating systems and drivers worked flawlessly for us; the bug does not occur and the screen does not go to sleep, but if you dual boot and switch back to MacOS, the bug reappears because the iMac is loading faulty Apple MacOS software.


Good luck!

Nov 2, 2013 6:07 AM in response to MarkusWinter

Hello MarkusWinter:


I totally agree with your conclusion that "something", like video divers, in Lion and onward... is causing this issue in that vintage of iMac.


So... has you upgrade to Mac OS 10.9 "Mavericks" slowed or eliminated the video blackout issue? The post by "Only XM" gives hope! I have my effected machine in the hands of a friend. It has been "retro'ed" back to Snow Leopard, the original OS for this machine, and is running just fine on 10.6.8. When you can, please report your findings.


Regards,


Mark Byard

Ponca City, OK

Nov 8, 2013 7:35 AM in response to philfromhorw

ok, my screen has now gone black it wont come back on, looked on utube, there is a vid on there how to fix this problem, tried it, didn't work, 😟 so i found a workaround, thunderbolt connector to DVI, i think its called (thunderbolt to another monitor) bought this cable, £20 from PC World, apple store 1 hr drive, PC world 15 mins, found a spare monitor, plugged all in, nothing worked, both screens black 😟, but then pressed COMMAND F1 BOOOOOOOM ............... only joking 🙂 spare monitor is mirroring the iMac screen, so all working again till i can get a replacement screen.

Nov 9, 2013 7:40 PM in response to Ashadur

Hi. I purchased a used iMac 27" 2011 over the summer at a good price. Great computer, busted screen -- frequent, sudden blackouts, as described. Seller claimed no knowledge of this problem. Hot corner work-arounds were okay, but still frustrating. I saw on other thread about replacing the LED board, so thought I'd try this before selling the machine again.


It worked! No blackouts since the installation of the new LED board. I bought a new, sealed LED board on eBay for $35 and swapped it out within 15 minutes using iFixit instructions. I'm sure an Apple Genius can do the same thing for $250 parts & labor, but I'm psyched about my easy (and cheap) fix.


So sorry about the others experiencing this problem. I can't guarantee it will work for everyone, but it seems reasonable to replace this simple part before throwing your machine out the window.


Good luck.

Nov 10, 2013 5:22 PM in response to floremin

Hi. The LED board "kit" is part number 923-0047. It contains two different (but visually similar) LED boards that are coded to the different display panels used in the 2011 iMacs. You have to remove the panel to see which part it is, which is why they sell the combo-kit -- it would be nice to buy only the one you need, but that requires opening the machine twice. I now have an extra LED board for the "other" display panel, in addition to the defective one. The eBay seller I found seems to sell an occasional part, but is not a distributor.

Nov 14, 2013 2:26 PM in response to Ashadur

I have the same problem with a 27" iMac, purchased in November 2011 (UK) The screen will suddenly go black, although the computer is still running in the background. I discovered than if I pressed the On/Off button once & moved the mouse around, the screen would come back after 30 seconds or so. I've sort of stopped it happening by reducing the brightness, but it's obviously not ideal & I'm worried that one day, it will black out completely & then I'll be stuffed! When the Mac is off or asleep, there is a white feathering at the 4 corners of the screen


It seems that Apple has identified a problem with one graphics card (AMD Radeon 6970) and they will replace it free of charge. However, my graphics card is a AMD Radeon HD6770M, which is supposedly OK. I contacted techinal support via the Apple website, gave my phone number - and they called me immediately. My Mac is coming up to 2 years old, and thus out of guarantee & I don't have Apple Care. I thought I was going to get landed with a huge bill to replave the graphics card & screen. But to my surprise, as I live in Europe, I was told that under EU Law, the warranty is effectively extended to 6 years from date of purchase if there has been a hardware failure. Problems caused by accidents, spillages, mistreatments etc will not be covered, nor will problems caused by third party software.


I've booked an appointment with my local Apple store tomorrow - so we'll see how I get on. I'll post again hoping that what I was told actually happens.


Hope this helps those of you with the same problem living in the EU. I don't think it applies in the States/Canada though.

Nov 16, 2013 5:32 AM in response to drunknmonk

Took my 27"iMac in to West Quay store in Southampton yesterday & I was pretty impressed. They examined it and ran a series of tests - which supposedly said there was nothing wrong. They have kept the computer to see if they can replicate the problem (ie screen blacking out). They have suggested that it's the dispaly panel and will replace it - free of charge - under a Consumer Law claim. Please note that this only applies to products purchased in the EU. In England, this effectively extends the warranty to six years (5 years in Scotland for some unknown reason!)


With regard to the white feathering marks at the edge of the screen, they suggested that this could be caused by smoke damage.


The only downside is that the repair could take up to 2 weeks! which means that I'm writing this on a clunky old PC running XP.

Nov 30, 2013 6:38 AM in response to jackofspeed

It would be nice if the US had the same Consumer Protection Laws.

I have been dealing with an iMac lemon for years.

It took me countless hours of documentation, several weeks of leaving my computer in AppleCare's posession, and timesnoops/datacaptures/etc. to finally reach a resolution on the screen.


They finally replaced the screen and LED backboard and it seems to prevent the blackouts now. I still have the WiFi and Bluetooth issues, which they already have timesnoops and datacaptures on..


I asked them to replace those modules when they did the screen, but they didn't, and now want me to do timesnoops and datacaptures AGAIN... stating that if the machine has parts replaced, I have to redocument issues.


How does replacing the screen and LED backlight even possibly fix bluetooth and wifi? It doesn't. It's just a delay tactic.


At this point no choice but to contact the BBB in hopes for a resolution. I don't think it's my job to continue to troubleshoot this lemon.

Nov 30, 2013 6:48 AM in response to jackofspeed

Sorry Goomband - the only thing I can suggest is that you cross the pond to live!


I've now got my iMac back - and .... so far, so good. Apple replaced the LCD panel - at a cost of £434 - which as explained earlier, I didn't have to pay. The new part has a 90 day warranty on it, but in any event I'm still covered under the European Consumer Laws.


Apple apparently ran a series of "exhaustive diagnostic tests" and also left the Mac running for about 9 hours with several videos running and at full brightness.


Generally, I'm very happy with the service I've received from Apple. The only downside was being without it for nearly 2 weeks!

27' iMac (2011) Screen turns off

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