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Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

After upgrading to Apeture 3.3. I noticed that 15-60 seconds after launching it, it begings to generate 7000+ previews. It doesn't matter if I let it finish or cancel the task, with next launch of Aperture the behaviour is back. I can't stop this no matter whether I uncheck the "New Projects Automatically generate spreviews" in the Preferneces or not. I also tried unchecking the "Maintain Previews for Projects" - no change! When this behaviour starts, Aperture becomes "jerky" in response despite running it on iMac with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD.

 

I updated Apeture to 3.3.1 but no change. This is seriously irritating and I am certain it only appeared with 3.3!


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  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I noted that I am not alone in this as there are already some posting the same issue here on Apple Communities. Hope we find a solution soon.

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Just wanted to update - no solution yet.

     

    1. I have now deleted Aperture completely with ALL preferences and traces one can find on the OSX (In ~/Library/Preferences ~/Library/Application Support)
    2. I rebooted the iMac
    3. Ran "Repair Permissions" and "Verified Disk" - all fine no issues
    4. Installed Aperture 3.1 (that is the install dmg I have)
    5. Ran Update Software and updated to 3.3.1
    6. Opened my Aperture Library
    7. and again got 7800 previews generating
    8. I allowed it to finish, closed Aperture
    9. Launched Aperture - generating 7800 of those same previews again
    10. Closed Aperture, launched it holding Option+Command keys and set it to Rebuild the Library

     

    Nothing, I constantly get this issue of Aperture generating 7800 previews. It must be a bug.

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Just a quick addition, last night I let Aperture finish the generation of the 7000+ previews. Then let it run. The iMac went to sleep mode and when I woke it up this morning, Aperture began generating the 7000+ previews again. Definitely a BUG! So not even a relaunch is necessary!

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I just created a new Library. Then imported the old Library into it. Same behavior. When launched, generating Previews as before.

  • dbmoore Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)

    Gordito  it looks like you have done everything except reinstall OSx.  I hope it doesnt come to that.  Hopefully Kierby or Leoni or others will have an Idea.  I always fall back on fsck, PRAM, SMC reset as last resort before going to the Genius Bar  Good luck

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thank's again to all who chip in. I have now done the following:

     

     

    Restarted iMac into Lion Recovery Mode and Verified and Repaired Disk - there were no issues at all.

     

     

    I then restarted the iMac and Repaired Permissions (via Disk Utility) - no issues found

     

     

    Then I copied my referenced Library to my brand new MacBook Air (less than 10 days old). When I launched it all went well, no Preview generation, no matter how many times I launched it. BUT! Since my Library is referenced I then loaded the HDD in my iMac (via Finder) where the originals (masters) reside and launched Aperture. All went well. I clicked on some photos and choose "Show in Finder ...". Finder showed the original on my iMac drive. Then I closed Aperture and as it was closing, it not only shared previews with iLife as instructed in Preferences, it also popped second pop-up "Upgrading Library ..." Then it closed.

     

     

    I relaunched Aperture and it almost instantly began generating 7300+ previews.

     

     

    Then, I ejected the HDD in my iMac via Finder on the MBA. Closing down Aperture (on MBA), it again Updated the Library. Relaunching Aperture resulted in NO preview generation.

     

     

    I did the same exercise on mu iMac (I have 256GB SSD with OSX, apps and Aperture library on it and I have 2TB HDD in it). I ejected the HDD, closing Aperture, it automatically "Updated Library". Relaunching Aperture without the HDD loaded (so Referenced Library without the originals available) resulted in no Preview generation. Rebooting iMac and having HDD load up again brought the behavior back!

     

     

    Go figure. At least I know reinstalling OSX is not necessary.

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Opening up Console on MBA shows the below, any ideas? (I filtered for Aperture in the search field of Console)

     

     

     

     

     

     

    7/5/12 8:00:07.029 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:02:07.237 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:05:52.676 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:06:58.592 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:07:50.803 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Opening up Console on iMac shows the below, any ideas? (I filtered for Aperture in the search field of Console)

     

     

    7/5/12 7:46:58.281 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:03:11.713 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:09:25.891 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:18:23.902 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:18:39.422 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:18:39.429 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:18:57.853 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:20:11.603 PM Aperture: The class 'NSProMenuItem' overrides the method identifier.  This method is implemented by class 'NSMenuItem'

    7/5/12 8:20:20.907 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:20:37.443 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:20:37.453 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

    7/5/12 8:20:55.112 PM authexec: executing /Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/VacuumFilesAndFolders

  • txinfl Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hey There, Had the same issue. I think I fixed it by doing two things.

     

    1) Select all images in the library, and "Update Priview", it may take a while depending how many. I had about 60,000 images in RAW. I have a similar machine to yours which I jsut purchased in May to do this upgrade.  I did the process over night and it had finished by morning.

     

    2) "Rebuild the Database" - hold down "option" and "command" while opening Aperture. This step may take a while however I have had to do it twice, once before for another issue, it seemed to finish in a few hours. Keep an eye on the "Activity Monitor" and watch that it is processing (you can watch the reads and writes) it may say "not responding" as long as it continues to make the reads and writes let it go.

     

    I was reluctant to do it, but the Apple Support person told me the only other suggestion was to delete all the previews and regenerate. I figured it would take days with 60,000 images so I went this route. It has been a week now and all seems fine.

     

    Good Luck!!

     

    Jack

  • txinfl Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    oops, can't type...

     

    In step 1) It should be:  "Update Preview" (which is found under the "Photos" menu)

  • Gordito73-me Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    txinfl wrote:

     

    Hey There, Had the same issue. I think I fixed it by doing two things.

     

    1) Select all images in the library, and "Update Priview", it may take a while depending how many. I had about 60,000 images in RAW. I have a similar machine to yours which I jsut purchased in May to do this upgrade.  I did the process over night and it had finished by morning.

     

    2) "Rebuild the Database" - hold down "option" and "command" while opening Aperture. This step may take a while however I have had to do it twice, once before for another issue, it seemed to finish in a few hours. Keep an eye on the "Activity Monitor" and watch that it is processing (you can watch the reads and writes) it may say "not responding" as long as it continues to make the reads and writes let it go.

     

    I was reluctant to do it, but the Apple Support person told me the only other suggestion was to delete all the previews and regenerate. I figured it would take days with 60,000 images so I went this route. It has been a week now and all seems fine.

     

    Good Luck!!

     

    Jack

    Hi Jack;

     

    I did what you suggested (Update Previews and Rebuild Library) but it did not help. I did, at one point also delete all 40GB of previews and had them regenerated but it did not change anything.

     

    My suspission is that something had to change in Aperture in handling referenced files. I did not have this issue before 3.3. I will keep trying but if it doesn't go away, I will just wait for Mountain Lion, reinstall OSX and hope it goes away then.

  • lindsayfrombc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Gordito73-me,

     

    It looks like we're having the same problem.

     

    I just picked up the brand new MacBook Pro with Retina display last night. Brought it home, and tried to upload my photos from my external (which, I had also upoloaded from my old 2008 MacBook onto an external harddrive) after opting out of Setup and Migration assistant (since I've worked with Photoshop and Aperture previously... apparently this would be the "most reliable" method). Everything seemed to be operating fine... except Aperture. It would be fine for the first few seconds (maybe 10?) and then I'd get that oh-so-lovely rainbow wheel that we all love, and the word "processing". This would continue for 10 minutes, then it would pause, and I'd be hopeful and try and click on anything - even a picture - but would be halted back to the "processing" wait. I couldn't even click a thumbnail, let alone open a photo. Now, this wasn't even a problem on my 2008 MacBook, where, admittedly it was slow, but it EVENTUALLY opened. After staying up until 4am, trying a multitude of different options; quickly disabling previews in the first 10 seconds after start-up of the program, stopping gestures, minimizing preview quality, etc., I gave up. I called Apple this morning and said I'd be in to exchange what I thought was a faulty system. I explained everything to the multiple geniuses when I arrived, and they suggested that I try and upload less than my entire photo library (15,000 photos). That seemed like a reasonable explanation at the time. So, I came home, set up an entirely BRAND NEW MacBook Pro, with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD (note that my old MacBook had nothing even comparable to these specs), and hoped for the best. I only uploaded a TENTH of my photos (approximately 3GB's worth) onto the new computer, and am receiving the same results. Clearly this is an Aperture fix (though, I was told that they had "solved" something like this in their previous update), as I've tried many options (like you) with no success. The program attempts to process all of the previews, even though I've disabled that function, and minimized 'extras'  as much as possible. Thus, I am still unable to open even one single photo. It's almost ridiculous that a program of this callibre isn't even capable of opening a photo. As a professional, it's beyond frustrating, since I invested in this new equipment for a reason.

     

    Anyway, any additional advice would be much appreciated as I purchased the compter and program in order to move forward with my editing at a faster rate. Wondering if Photoshop would run faster... but after an investment into this computer, I won't be able to purchase that for some time...

  • txinfl Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Lindsay are you using managed or referenced libraries? I had similar problem but was able to rebuild database and it solved the problem. I use referenced images as opposed to letting Aperture manage the images.

  • lindsayfrombc Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Txinfl,

     

    I'm trying to inport the photos (and start fresh) from Aperture... Are you meaning that I should maybe be attempting to to upload everything to iPhoto instead (since they share sources now)??

     

    If that's not what you mean... could you tell me how I can go about doing that?

     

    Any help is very much appreciated! I've been dealing with this for hours (and almost 2 days) now..

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