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I've noticed that when I output some of my photos to my HP Photosmart C7280 printer, the printed photo is often darker than my original (or, at least, how it is displayed on my monitor). When I print, I have always used the "Printer Managed" option under the Color Profile setting. Is there a better option to use here? Or, is this more a problem with my printer?


Thanks,

Carl

MacPro, Mac OS X (10.6.6), 2.66 Ghz Intel Dual-Core Xeon, 4 Gb Ram, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT

Posted on Jul 4, 2012 8:26 AM

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Jul 4, 2012 9:00 AM in response to CarlWhite

Carl,


Admonitions to calibrate are good advice, but I have never yet found a pressing need to calibrate my 23" Apple Cinema Display. I base this on many opportunities to see my images on other screens and computers. These include my iPads, including one that is Gen 3 with Retina. So it may or may not be related to monitor calibration.


I particularly like Aperture's print presets having in the Image Adjustment section sliders to brighten the image (and other adjustments) upon printing, and I find that gives me the best match with all papers and their matching Profiles without adjusting the image within Aperture.


Ernie

Jul 4, 2012 9:53 AM in response to CarlWhite

Carl,


I would probably do calibration if ever may images looked different on other screens, or if I were sending to labs to print where I would want to be sure to match their results. So only you can judge whether the problem is such as to strongly suggest calibration.


It is simply hard to print to look like back-lit images. But with the print section adjustments I get very, very close. Also those I have had printed from the providers available to me on SmugMug are really close. But they may make adjustments beyond those I make prior to uploading.


Ernie

Jul 4, 2012 10:11 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

Ernie -


What set me to wondering is I had a photobook done based on what I viewed in Aperture (thought the book was doen by Blurb). All photos looked just as they did on my screen. Therefore, I was kind of suspecting my printer as being the issue.


I did a quick test of one image and, after making the pre-print adjustments, the image printed very close to the display version. And, as you said, I never touched the image itself. So, I really don't see a pressing need to calibrate my monitor - at least not at this time.


Carl

Jul 4, 2012 10:40 AM in response to CarlWhite

While calibration may be good - it doesn't seem totally necessary, especially when it involves spending scarce $ on software to do it.

It is not necessary to spend $ on display calibration - if you open the System Preferences and then the "Display" tab, then click the "Colours" tab, you can calibrate your display with the tools provided by Apple. Check the color profile your display is using; and if you press the "Calibrate" button, you can refine the display profile.


At least you will get an idea how much your display differs from the optimal setup, by walking once thr the calibration process.

Jul 4, 2012 3:03 PM in response to CarlWhite

Hi Carl,


A couple additions to the discussion so far.


1. "My prints are too dark" is a very common query. I suggest starting by reading the top two Google hits, the article from Luminous Landscape and the article from Northlight Images.


There are many causes. Those articles will inform you what they are.


2. You may be able to modify a single workflow in order to have prints from one printer match the images you see on-screen. While that is useful, it is not (except by luck) applicable to any other workflow, or any other hardware. A significant danger of this is that when you change your hardware, _all_ of your images will need to be re-adjusted.


I edit tens of thousands of images a year. I want my edited pictures to look the same regardless of what hardware my clients use or what hardware I might be using next month or in two years.


That is why I recommend a color-calibrated workflow. Calibration is the process of providing a hardware-specific set of adjustment to each device. The devices are calibrated to standards. The end result is that any image you produce on your color-calibrated hardware will look the same -- and print the same -- on any color-calibrated device, anywhere, at any time (within the limits of the devices, of course).


This is fully explained in terrific little book, Abhay Sharma's "Understanding Color Management". (Not up-to-date, but not at all outdated. Also not inexpensive.)


The only acceptable color-calibration is done with photospectrometers. The built-into-OS-X color calibration tool is better than nothing, but should in no case be considered a substitution for the accuracy and reliability of a hardware calibrator.


As Léonie kindly pointed out, I have posted many times about color calibration. This post probably has the most usable information.


Feel free to ask more 🙂 .

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