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  • Rod Hagen Level 7 Level 7 (31,985 points)

    As a long time Apple fan (Apple2 & Mac512K long) , who bought quite a few iBooks before realising I could only read 'em on my iPad rather than on my Retina MBP, I'd have to say I'm pretty pee'd off about this silliness. Like many others , I'm sure, it will be the Kindle or Adobe etc versions for me in future, unless Apple get their act into gear.  What an absurd, self harming, sitution! It really can't be that hard for this to be fixed!

  • Richard7Sail Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'll add to the chorus of groans here. Just bought a book of Itunes and hit with the 'can't read it here bozo' message. Duped by Apple, money wasted, and bedazzled why I cant read a book off my Apple computer. Do you really think i'll head out and get an IPad? Not on your life. Was a a seriously happy apple convert but rapidly getting unhappy a with all the silly limits and restrictions aimed at increasing sales but really turning people off. Are you listening Apple? Give us the software! Show us you are top of the bunch! Are you listening?

  • David Willis1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I also had to learn this iBook lesson the hard way tonight and am further disheartened to read the many months of complaints about this issue that have apparently fallen on deaf ears. Could have bought Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way on Amazon for the same price as on iBook and read it with Kindle apps on my iPhone, iPad, AND iMac every day as I intended to do for the next few months. Of course it's really not that inconvenient when I'm working on a related project on my iMac to have my iPhone or iPad nearby to refer to the text, but why should I have to? It may not seem like a deal breaker to Apple, but for me it is. They won't see another eBook penny out of me--who have been faithfully putting pennies in their piggy bank since 1984--until they release an iBook reader for their UNIX platforms.

  • brookworks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I found that you can drag ibooks out of their ibooks/itunes folder, right click to get info, change the extension name from ibooks to epub and voila they open like every other epub! They work fine in adobe digital editions. This trick works with other odd extensions too.

  • David Willis1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I followed your instructions. It was unnecessary to change the extension when I dragged the file to my desktop since it was already epub. However, when dragged into ADE all the pages displayed blank, presumbably because the file is DRM protected, which, as has been noted several times in this conversation, cannot be circumvented by any available readers. Thanks, anyway.

  • cbergmiester Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Download Adobe Digital Editions to open .epub and .mobi file types on your mac.

  • WilsonLaidlaw Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Do please do the rest of us the courtesy of reading the thread before posting. How many times do we have to tell people - Adobe Digital Editions will NOT read DRM protected books purchased from Apple or anyone else but only non-DRM protected books (the minority) or DRM protected books purchased through an Adobe linked scheme, e.g. Foyles.



  • Bojan Landekic Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How is it such a mystery as to WHY apple is only allowing iBooks on iPads and iPhones, it's pretty straightforward man...


    It's the driving force behind sales of those devices!  Simple!  It's an added benefit, a reason d'etre!  If they open up iBooks to the desktop, there will be less demand for iPads/iPhones.. d'oh!  Apple isn't interested in providing a good social experience, their goal is to be very profitable and keep very high margins.  That's it, it's just another greedy corporation using elitist marketing strategies, nothing new here. :-/

  • NineTigers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The problem with your claim is it is a false claim!!! Unless you work for apple and have heard these discussions in person, or you know Tim Cook or some other higher up who has told you this is the reason, then you simply do not know the reason. Your claim is nothing but hot air and you try to insult everyone here's intelligence when you have only insulted yours and shown you make false statements.


    Stop insulting people and showing yourself to be dishonest and you will get along better with others!!!!  :-)

  • wcohen Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Agreed.  These aren't "claims." They are just allegations or accusations, or just venting.


    Amazon's Kindle has (to the best of my knowledge) the lion's share of the ebook market.

    It is unlikely (to the best of my knowledge) that there are enough "iBook" readers yet to impact

    very much one way or another the sales of the reader devices (primarily i guess the MacBook and

    MacBook Pro).


    This may be the forum for venting of anger of Macbook (Pro) ibook readers---a regretfuly

    yet still small community. 


    I also wish there were more ibooks available vs. Kindle but given what I know of the publishing

    industry, this is going to be tough.   Amazon has almost a monopoly, which is also awful

    for publishers and authors.

  • NineTigers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the aggreement, bojan doesn't need to come here and insult everyone!!!


    I want to add that I am following this thread since it bothers me also. I almost feel Apple needs to pull ibooks if it isn't going to have a similar version on the computer. They have bragged about cross compatibility with intro of mountain Lion, and this is a hollow claim when not even ibooks has this. Maybe they are listening and adding this to the next os x. Of course, people have complained a good while and they haven't listened so far.


    I was responding to Bojan insisting he knows the reason and others who don't see it are stupid. This is insulting and he doesn't know what he's talking about. I and others have speculated the reason, but we know it's speculation, and he doesn't understand the difference. Apple could have a different reason, and that's all there is to it. We don't know the reason, end of story!!!!

  • BALewis Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    There is another possibility or perhaps factor in why certain iBooks cannot be read on a Mac versus an iOS device and that would be touch screen dependency. An iOS dependent iBook contains code if I'm not mistaken that allows certain facilities like gestures and other touch screen requiring factors that are or can be quite difficult to emulate on a non-touch device, even with a track pad (I love mine attached to my Macbook Pro, by the way). It might be possible to use but it wouldn't be as precise and could possibly be rather frustrating for the reader/user.


    I know of one iBook (only) publication from the folks at Games Workshop that requires gestures for certain facilities to work. A mouse click and drag _might_ work for those. But I don't know how that could be emulated, really. And with multiple touch elements on one "page", how you could tell _where_ you had touched the page using a pad, I also don't know.


    It may be that some books just need iBooks to function at all and that without a touch screen iBooks loses some of its usefulness.


    I'm not saying that I don't want iBooks on my Macbook Pro, too. But I can understand that there might be certin technical aspects with some books that just don't translate well.


    It may be that the touch screen is a barrier that Apple simply doesn't know how to bypass gracefully. After all, Steve Jobs' purported vision was that all things would be done across the board and done well or not done at all.  It makes no sense for iBooks to not take advantage of the capabilities of a touch screen and the lack of a touch screen on a Mac or Macbook is simply a barrier to bringing that functionality to those devices.


    I, for one, don't know how to get around that barrier other than giving the Mac and Macbooks touch screens. And that may be in Apple's future. All devices, iMacs, Mac Pro, Macbooks and even Mac Mini's as touch screen capable devices. Imagine a future in which all PCs and Macs having touch screens. I think I'd like that. And perhaps in that future iBooks will make it's way to the rest of Apple's hardware.


    I can even imagine this same discussion continuing but people unhappy that their Mac without a touch screen can't open some iBooks because they require a touch screen. Maybe a track pad can be made to work. I do like the gestures Apple has brought to the Mac desktop using the track pad, so far.


    This is only my ideas about what the problem might be and a possible "solution" that Apple is weighing for the future. Apple certainly isn't going to tell us. Not until they have a shippable product, I suspect.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,025 points)

    BALewis wrote:



    It may be that some books just need iBooks to function at all and that without a touch screen iBooks loses some of its usefulness.


    I think that is true.  But I suspect 99% of what people want to read on their Mac is in standard epub format, for which touch screen is not really an issue.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,380 points)

    I don't see, why if there are so many people who would rather read an iBook on their Mac, why can't they write their favorite author, and pay them to make the book in a format that can be readable using iBook Author itself?  It runs on Mac OS X, and is used to create the iBooks.   Surely if it is that much of an issue that you want the book, that might not be available in a Mac OS X format, you'd be willing to pay the author to make it available that way.  The easiest way for them to do this, is release to book "source code" if you like to call it that, and let anyone willing to pay for it read it directly on iBook Author.   The author wouldn't have to reformat the file at all, could send you a zipped copy that you agree not to distribute, and you can read it.   Why make life harder on the author to make multiple formatted copies, when they have a working format they can distribute it as.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,025 points)

    a brody wrote:


    I don't see, why if there are so many people who would rather read an iBook on their Mac, why can't they write their favorite author, and pay them to make the book in a format that can be readable using iBook Author itself?


    One reason is that the license conditions for using iBooks Author with its special formats require you to sell via the iBookstore if you are going to charge for your book.


    Have you tried reading an .ibooks format book in its .iba form and found that a good substitute?

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