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Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

Noitced a real slow down in processing and much slower mouse action on my Macbook 2.2Ghz (4GB RAM)

 

Run Cocktail 4.7 on a regular basis.

 

Are there any new bugs out there?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Spec:

 

OSX 10.5.8

 

MacBook3,1

  Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo

  Processor Speed:          2.2 GHz

  Number Of Processors:          1

  Total Number Of Cores:          2

  L2 Cache:          4 MB

  Memory:          4 GB

  Bus Speed:          800 MHz

  Boot ROM Version:          MB31.008E.B02

  • 1. Re: sluggish macbook
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Cocktail may be what is slowing you down.  Backup your data at least twice, and erase and install, and restore your system applications from the CDs and downloads of those applications, and data files from your backup. The big mistake is to assume any utility is necessary for a Mac other than a backup utility.  System cache files are there to speed your system up.  Only if they get corrupted might a utility like Cocktail come handy, but corrupt cache files, and dying hard drives can have similar symptoms.    Without isolating hardware versus software, you don't know which is actually happening.  Erasing will eliminate any possible hardware issue.

  • 2. Re: sluggish macbook
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    Backup first

    It is always best to have a full bootable backup before you upgrade. If you fail to do this you will be unable to return to this OS if you decide you don't like the new OS. Also there is a slight chance that an install could lose everything on the Mac. The backup must be to an external hard disk. Preferably use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup of the whole disk.

     

    Erase before the install

    Once you have a bootable backup on an external disk it is best to erase the internal disk with the new installer DVD before you install.

     

    During the install

    Preferably do not import any data or preferences from earlier OSs during the install process as this can reintroduce bugs.

     

    OS numbers and names

    OS X 10.4.x - Tiger

    OS X 10.5.x - Leopard

    OS X 10.6.x - Snow Leopard

    OS X 10.7.x - Lion

    OS X 10.8.x - Mountain Lion

     

    More about Macs

    The Apple History site has specifications for every Mac ever produced: http://www.apple-history.com/

     

    Upgrade to Leopard

    Those wishing to upgrade to Leopard should be aware that install disks can be expensive unless you contact Apple. Details: http://lowendmac.com/deals/best-os-x-leopard-prices.html Standard Leopard installers impose several hardware limitations including speed and RAM size but all these restrictions can be overcome. Google for details. Leopard works well at 500 MHz with 1 GB of RAM and many happy users have less than this.

     

    Upgrade beyond Leopard

    OSs beyond OS X 10.5.8 require an Intel processor. If in doubt check this: Click the apple at the top left of your screen and select 'About this Mac'. This will give you your OS number. Then click 'More Info' to see which processor you have. If it says PowerPC you cannot upgrade to Snow Leopard and above. If you have an Intel Mac it is well worth upgrading to Snow Leopard now and then considering other options after that. You can buy Snow Leopard here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A

     

    Upgrade beyond Snow Leopard

    Information about upgrading Snow Leopard to Lion or Mountain Lion: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A

     

    Important

    Check that your Mac complies with any requirements. If you are not in the US you should use the Change Country link at the bottom of Apple pages.

  • 3. Re: sluggish macbook
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,475 points)

    Check the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive in Disk Utilty by highlighting the Drive & looking at the bottom of the window.

    SMARTstatus.gif

    Open Activity Monitor in Applications>Utilities, select All Processes & sort on CPU%, any indications there?

     

    Open Console in Utilities & see if there are any clues or repeating messages when this happens.

     

    How much RAM & free space do you have also, click on the Memory & Disk Usage Tabs.

     

    In the Memory tab, are there a lot of Pageouts?

    https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-18666790-125104/450-323/AMPageouts.jpg

  • 4. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks guys,

     

    here are some screenshots:

     

     

    Picture 1.jpgPicture 2.jpgPicture 3.jpgPicture 4.jpg

  • 5. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Consol messages post Cocktail and then System Update: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606

    Picture 5.jpgPicture 6.jpgPicture 7.jpgPicture 8.jpg

  • 6. Re: sluggish macbook
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    CNQL Button manager will not upgrade to Lion or Mountain Lion.     It is PowerPC only.  You'll have to find out what program uses it, and upgrade it for Lion before you go to Lion.

  • 7. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    A few more activity monitor details:

     

    Picture 9.jpgPicture 10.jpg

  • 8. Re: sluggish macbook
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Running Onyx while Safari, or any other program is open, is not wise.    Caches are written by the operating system and other programs active.  If you have something else try to delete them while they are open, that can cause corruption.

  • 9. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Interesting about CNQL - any ideas o how that got in there? This is Intel machine on 10.5.8

  • 10. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    OK I found it was Canon 8000F scan bundle. Have tried to delete and see how it goes.

  • 11. Re: sluggish macbook
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Note you should click on the Kind tab to see if there are any other PowerPC applications grouped together as well.  Anything that runs as PowerPC is not running any faster than a G3 processor speed.  There is no Altivec in Rosetta.

  • 12. Re: sluggish macbook
    Lukas Willcocks Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Onyx is a font style? Not one I tend to use in any application.  Or is it an app like Cocktail?

  • 13. Re: sluggish macbook
    a brody Level 9 Level 9 (63,265 points)

    Sorry, your thread is already too long to allow me to keep track of it.  Onyx and Cocktail are similar applications.

  • 14. Re: sluggish macbook
    Neville Hillyer Level 4 Level 4 (1,855 points)

    Onyx is a font style? Not one I tend to use in any application.  Or is it an app like Cocktail?

     

    See if the installers came with an uninstallers and uninstall both of them properly.

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