13 Replies Latest reply: Aug 9, 2012 4:06 PM by Tancamb
Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I just edited a 5 min piece on FCPX - my first time using it.

 

I was using AVCHD footage imported using ClipWrap from a Canon HD camcorder, using ProRes at 1080p settings.

 

I exported via FCPX, using h.264 but ended up with a very large file (550mb). Investigated and decided I needed to export at 720p. Did so and got a smaller file (250mb) which looks grainy, has strobing pan/bright areas and still takes ages to link to it's webpage. (See below for more info on this.)

 

So, I bought Compressor and, trying their regular "720p for upload to video sharing sites" setting, and got a 378 mb file (albeit of better quality).

 

I also got in touch with my website's host to see why the .mov file was taking 9 minutes to load onto it's page. No answers - they checked everything they could.

 

I have 2 other videos on that site (each on its own page) that load quickly and yet are much longer playing. One is 18 min, HD, looks reasonable and is only 118 mb! Shot on the Canon in 1080p, imported into iMovie, exported to an .m4v file (probably using Quicktime Pro which I don't seem to have anymore)and then imported into iWeb. According to the control panel, it is described as a text/x-generic file while the .mov file is categorized as video. Would that be the problem?

 

Any advice as to what Compressor setting is going to give me a okay looking file that is small enough for my host's server to handle?

 

Thanks for any advice, this used to be rather easy for an ignoramus.

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (16,450 points)

    Try the HTTP Streaming Broadband setting @ 5 Mbps. It should give you a 960X540 MP4 of "reasonable" size. If you need something smaller, you can adjust frame size, fps, bit rate as necessary within Compressor.

     

    But before doing the Compressor work, I think I would return to FCPX and export your Pro Res sequence at its original 1080 size. Let Compressor do the scaling work and eliminate one compression step. If you find it has objectionable artifacts, turn on Frame Controls and set Resize filter to Best.

     

    Good luck.

     

    Russ

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Russ. I will try that!

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I tried Russ's suggestion (including Resizing to Best but leaving Retiming at Fast)  and and got a smooth, pretty good looking .mp4 file of 172 mgs which loads quickly.

     

    The problem now is that it keeps pausing itself, when played online.

     

    What is causing that? The server? Is there anything else I could try?

     

    Thanks for any suggestions!

  • BenB Level 6 Level 6 (8,200 points)

    Lower the Bit/s setting when encoding.

     

    FCP X reads Canon media without Clipwrap, FYI.

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Ben. I'll try that but not sure what to lower it to.

     

    I tried importing my AVCHD files and they weren't recognized, so I got Clipwrap. I did look for help online and that seemed to be the recommend.

  • Luis Sequeira1 Level 5 Level 5 (6,820 points)

    Tancamb wrote:

     

    Thanks Ben. I'll try that but not sure what to lower it to.

     

    I tried importing my AVCHD files and they weren't recognized, so I got Clipwrap. I did look for help online and that seemed to be the recommend.

    You don't import the individual files from the AVCHD using "Import files"; use "Import from Camera". You can do this either straight from the camera or from a hard drive - as long as you copy the entire folder structure from the camera (not just the individual video files).

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you Luis - I did try that and it didn't work - perhaps I went too high or low in the folder hierarchy.  Anyway, I now have Clipwrap. Is there a problem with using it?

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ben, I am trying the Low Broadband (2.5 mbps) and will see how that works. (Gotta get a new host!)

  • Luis Sequeira1 Level 5 Level 5 (6,820 points)

    Tancamb wrote:

     

    Thank you Luis - I did try that and it didn't work - perhaps I went too high or low in the folder hierarchy.  Anyway, I now have Clipwrap. Is there a problem with using it?

    No problem.

  • BenB Level 6 Level 6 (8,200 points)

    Here's some easier, faster ways to do it.  Works every time for me.  Don't over think it, it's not that complicated.

    http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/final-cut/preparing-video-web-quicktime-compresso r

     

    Also, rule is, if it's already QT .mov files, use Import > File.  If it's not, use Import From Camera.

     

    Exactly what Canon camera are you using?

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Ben (and everyone else!):

     

    Thank you for your reply and for your webpage! I didn't seem to get the notification or I would have tried some of your suggestions sooner.

     

    After reading your advice, I have now tried:

     

    Compressor: HTTP Streaming Broadband setting @ 5 Mbps and got a 172mb .mp4file that loaded quickly and looked good but kept pausing.

     

    Compressor: HTTP Streaming Broadband setting @ 2.5 Mbps and got an 87mb .mp4 file that looked okay and didn't pause, but stutters a bit and the audio was out of sync.

     

    Method 1: at 720 fps and got a 130mb .m4v file that also looks okay but keeps pausing.

     

    Method 3: followed instructions and formatted quite small to fit on webpage and got 10 mb .mov file that stutters, is out of sync and pauses!

     

    Method 2: gave me a seemingly identical file to Method 3 but I tried it anyway with same results.

     

    I am ready to try Compressor again - using Method 4, but before I take the time to do this (it takes hours), is there something about the original that I need to change before I compress? I am confused. And why is the sync off?

     

    As I mentioned originally, I have 2 other videos on this site - small files that seemed to work well last time I looked. So I looked again specifically at the one which had sync dial and it too is way off. I am pretty sure it didn't used to play like that - I think I would have noticed!

     

    What is causing this now?

     

    Thank you so much for helping me figure this out.

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I used a Canon HF S100 for 2 of the projects.

  • Tancamb Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sorry - can no longer edit 2 posts ago - but I just want to say that the files that are no sync online, ARE sync when played on my computer.