little dots above the iPhone's proximity sensor

Hello everyone, I have no idea if this question was answered, i searched the web and didn't find the exact answer so I really need someone to explain me the details.


I have an iPhone 4 White 16gb on at&t network(already unlocked) 4 months old. The digitizer glass above the proximity sensor's hole is clear without any dots, but I was browsing the web and found out that the iPhone 4 usualy has the little tiny dots above the proximity sensor, it makes even more confusing as I am trying to buy a new digitizer on ebay for another white iPhone 4 and have no idea which one to chose with dots or without them.

Please let me know the following:

- are the dots just on the iphone 4?

- are the dots just on the iphone 4 older version?

-are the dots just on the iphone 4 gsm or cdma versions?

- are the dots on the iphone 4s?


Second question is about the little lines that go through the middle metal bezel frame of the iphone 4 and 4s. There is a little difference between them and I would like to clarify that as well:

The Iphone 4 (as I think) has only 3 lines, one on each side at the bottom and one on the right side of the headphone jack.

The Iphone 4s (as I think) has 4 lines, one on each side at the bottom and one on each side at the top.

Yesterday one of my friends showed me his iphone with 4 lines and I told him that's a 4s, however he told me that it's a 4.

Please let me know the following:

- are the 4 lines only on the iphone 4s?
-are the 4 lines on the iphone 4s and iphone 4 newer version?

-are the 4 lines on the iphone 4 verizon/sprint/at&t?


To make it easier please see the following pictures:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/142/66832632.png


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3627/capturejxs.png

Thank you.

iPhone 4, iOS 5.1.1

Posted on Jul 17, 2012 11:49 AM

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Jul 17, 2012 4:29 PM in response to vasea.dvg72

That's not a real picture... that's a rendering. Maybe that was an early model of what it might have looked like before release.


Engineering wise, It wouldn't be too much of a difference since the actual black parts are not actual holes, they just lack paint.


And I have changed a lot of screens so I know what I'm talking about. If you ask for advice, then listen to it 😉


These are real apple screens that I have replaced. Left one is from a 4s and the 2 on the right are from iphone 4. If this isn't enough proof then I don't know what is.

User uploaded file


Ps. Just in case you still don't believe me, here's proof from apple's website. They still sell the iphone 4
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone/iphone4

Jul 17, 2012 9:01 PM in response to carlos5221992

Heh, again, just to put my 5 cents.

If you say those pictures were rendered then take a look at these iPhone 4 unboxing videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D4x_RQsX1o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKN8XN8tQPY


Also look at this video it actualy shows both versions of the white color, notice that even the box has that picture.

So question solved, The dotted version was the first iPhones in white color that came out last year in April.

The rest of them if you still see them are the aftermarket old china digitizers that were made last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szKlFVw9rKU

Jul 17, 2012 12:05 PM in response to KiltedTim

I already start to feel bad that i posted this on the apple official forum, are you guys really that "strange"? I am not asking for any parts I just gave you as many details about my problem as I could to show you what I mean.

You are telling me that i should take a look at ifixit and then you are telling me that the iPhone is not user servicable?? How is that?

Jul 17, 2012 12:16 PM in response to vasea.dvg72

As I said. The iPhone is not considered user servicable. There is no legitimate source for parts.


That said, I understand plenty of people want to try and fix them themselves rather than pay the out of warranty replacement fee when they break them.


iFixit has done comprehensive teardowns and has lots of useful videos and photos to help you along if you want to try and tackle it yourself.


This topic is NOT appopriate for these forums. Apple does not condone end users opening and/or attempting to fix iPhones. Add to that the fact that the only sources for parts will get you gray market parts that have been stripped from old/damaged/possibly stolen phones, or cheap knockoff parts and... well... you get the idea.

Jul 17, 2012 12:36 PM in response to KiltedTim

Due to the fact that I added two lines of text and a link you are not going to help me anymore? You know what? I don't even need your reply,

How come the dots above the proximity sensor have anything with repairing an iphone? it is ***king sold like that!!!

the same thing goes with the iphone's lines on the metal bezel... it is sold like that, man!!!! come on seriosly.

I need and answer to know the differences bwteen the design of these freaking details not anything else in the first place.

Jul 17, 2012 12:54 PM in response to vasea.dvg72

The sensor holes (dots) are the same with iPhone 4 and 4S. There are 3 types of Front Screens. 1- iPhone 4 GSM (example ATT), 2- iPhone 4 CDMA (Verizon, Sprint), 3- iPhone 4S (all carriers same).


You need to buy the entire Front Screen Assembly (front glass, digitizer, LCD) preassembled at factory for one of the three iPhones above.


You seem to be hinting at buying a White Front for ATT iPhone 4. So buy Front Screen Assembly for iPhone 4 GSM (ATT), choose the White or pick any color you like.

Jul 17, 2012 1:13 PM in response to deggie

thank you, for replying me brad and deggie, The little dots above the proximity(sieve looking) are only on the white model, i believe they are there to make that proximity hole not so prominent.

This doesn't have anything with repairing the iphone, i'm not trying to find an aswer of what to buy how to repair or any tutorials, i'm sorry if i didn't make clear my question.


The only thing that I would like to know is if i see an iPhone in my hands I can tell straight if that's a 4 or 4s based on the lines and proximity design.


Again, my question was not solved, yet.

Jul 17, 2012 2:01 PM in response to vasea.dvg72

Like I said, "The sensor holes (dots) are the same with iPhone 4 and 4S." There is no difference between the 3 possible screens. They are identical and interchangeable. The only difference is the mounting bracket screw tabs are in different places in the 3 different screens. Also the iPhone 4S on real original Apple screens has a small 1-2mm white dot on the upper glass on the inside aspect. So with assembled iPhone 4S this internal dot is never seen. Otherwise all the 3 screens are identical except for the mounting bracket, 3 different screens - 3 different mounting brackets.

Jul 17, 2012 2:37 PM in response to brad805

brad, i think you misunderstood me, again I'm posting another picture from google images for "white iphone 4".


The sensor "hole" is not the same as the sensor "dots", in all your replies i see that you think i'm speaking about the sensor hole as (dots).


Again, please take a look at the pictures below:


1. http://www.tribbleagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/verizon-iphone-4-phonto. jpg


Disregard the green and blue circles, i didn't upload this picture, but take a look at the proximity sensor, do you see how it is covered by little tiny dots ?????????


2. http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/DSCN1541 .jpg


Do you see how the sensor is covered by little dots?


3. http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/white_iphone_4_hands-on_sg_1 0.jpg


Now on this one the proximity sensor hole is clean without any dots.


You are telling that they all look identical, but they don't....

Thanks anyway....

Jul 17, 2012 3:01 PM in response to carlos5221992

I don't think so, take a look at this picture...or many other's from the web....this one was on the apple's website when the iphone 4 came out.

http://blog.wirelessground.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/white-iphone-4.jpg


It has those tiny little dots....

Also, think about it, why would the aftermarket technicians add those little dots and make it visible that is not an original? also, i believe those dots are harder, more expensive to create (engineering) then having just the hole.

Jul 17, 2012 7:55 PM in response to carlos5221992

I'm not going to dig more as I really don't care that much. I really pay attention to detail to everything I am doing and everything I see.

As I told, my thoughts is that the earlier iPhone 4 models have those dots, the newer ones and the iphone 4s don't have them.

The black color has that "hole" you just can't see it so easy because the sensor is black. Any of the iphone black color aftermarket/ or new 4/ or 4s don't have those dots because by design there isn't any need to "fade" out that hole on the black model...

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