6 Replies Latest reply: Jul 24, 2012 8:50 AM by louie
sweethomecologne Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I used my Apogee Rosetta 200 as AD/DA and Wordclock going direktly into optical input on a G5 ...

worked perfectly together for years.

 

pretty much what i loved macs for.

 

alas! those times are gone. with my new built mid 2010 machine and os 10.6.8 running, i get these

tiny clicks all the time, whatever they mean now... in the past on G5 and Tiger that meant: forgot switch to external clock in

the AMS (audio-midi-setup), done it, and ::: wow!!! 

 

nowadays: total fail! i can set the Rosetta or the mac to whatever settings there are offerd, i ALWAYS get these clicks

and the sound is dull ...

 

i wonder, what has happenend here ... and after a month of research i´m getting really angry, too ...

Apogee claimed that Apple is known for changing the specs of the built in internal soundcard

every now an then. (not much help from there, either, but still better than no help at all from Apple)

 

Dear all: please,  i don´t need any of those "get a firewire-card/new interface, sth with a driver" - comments.

 

I just want the mac pro to live up to it´s name. and i need someone at Apple to tell me, that i really have to

completely rearrange my trustet & expensive equipment and spend another 2000 EUR to let a MAC PRO

sound as good as a 5 year old G5 machine ... (or be as fast, talking about 32 Bit modus!!!)

 

this whole development scares the **** out of me .. we surely do

not want to change the plattform, but one gets the notion that not before long they just want us to ...

 

sorry for bothering ...


Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • louie Level 4 Level 4 (2,945 points)

    I think we are describing synching on digital input stream, not technically wordclock.  The Apogee has wordclock connectors; you are likely not using them.

     

    I use a Lavry Blue instead of a Rosetta 200 on my 2011 MacPro 10.6.8, although I have some experience with the 200. I have generally been successful setting to digital input within each audio editing application I use (Sound Studio, Reaper, Adobe Audition, etc), then checking the AMS settings. However, when upgrading to Sound Studio 4.5 recently, it gave a tick sound every 30 seconds, which was only on the sound monitoring during recording, not actually on the written file. Sound Studio had no answer, but recommended moving to OS10.7x. I have downgraded back to SS4.2.

     

    So, what exactly are your synch settings in your applications, and then what does AMS show? Is the sound constantly fuzzy and distorted, or do you hear clean sound with random clicks? Or something else? You have tried various applications? What exact model MacPro do you have (System Profiler, i.e. MacPro1,1)? You are not using the Apogee firewire interface, are you?

  • sweethomecologne Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi louie!

    thank you so very much for caring!! I´ll try to provide as much information as possible:::

    sorted it into ABCD

     

     

    A: THE MAC

    Machine is a MAC PRO5,1 built mid 2010, Quad Core Intel Xeon 2,4 Ghz

    System is 10.6.8   (had the same issues under 10.7.x, too)

     

    i get those clicks every 10 - 15 Seconds, some left, some right,

    i get them in every audio, e.g. quicktime movies., itunes songs ... no so frequently, but they are there ..

    Sound is otherwise ok, no fuzz or other artefacts than the clicksies ... 

     

    borrowed a Fireface UC just to be sure ... no clickies at all.

     

    B: AMS

    in AMS i created a "Hauptgerät" (Main Device or whatever its called in the US System)

    it shows:

    DIGITAL INPUT (with a Clock-Icon)

    DIGTAL OUTPUT (With a wave icon)

     

    With MAIN DEVICE highlightes, the puldown menu on the right says: "Source for clock : Digital Inpit (inegrated)"

     

    In the list of audio-devices below Digi-Out and In boxes are checked, AMS puts a checksign into the "resample" of Digital Output ... don´t know why ...

     

    If beneath MAIN DEVICE i highlight the "digital input" it shows on the right:::

     

    Master stream

    source: Internal Clock

    Format: 44100,0 kkz 10 Channel, 24 Bit

     

    But AMS crashes everytime i highlight "digital input" (thats a new "feature"!)

     

     

    C: ROSETTA 200

    says Wide/Narrow , meaning "clock locked"

    Sample Rate 44,1

    SRC is not on, neither on DIGI nor ANALOG outputs

    WC/IO ist not set to external

     

    (i don´t know the rosetta so well, it just always worked, so i never had to dig deeper)

     

     

    D: LOGIC

    as far as i know and reseached there is no place in Logic where you would talk care of

    clocking (apart from MTC)

    I/O Buffer is 256 Samples, but anyway, i have the clicks on every audio from every application

     

     

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    so, thats all i can offer you ... can you think of whats going wrong here?!?!? i do hope so ...

    thanks for offering your help ,,, much appreciated!!!

     

    best

    bernd

  • louie Level 4 Level 4 (2,945 points)

    I do not really have an idea, but can look at the Apogee/MacPro installation of my co-worker. However, this will not be for 3 days or so (holiday).

     

    I do find some of the AMS and Rosetta 200 settings hard to understand, but as I said, I use Lavry.

  • louie Level 4 Level 4 (2,945 points)

    Also, you might try asking on a recording forum such as gearslutz.com or recording.com .

  • sweethomecologne Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I will, i definatly will ...

  • louie Level 4 Level 4 (2,945 points)

    BTW, I meant recording.org.

     

    Also, I should ask, do the clicks actually get onto a recording, or are they only on monitor/playback?