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iPhoto 9.3.1 - Adjust Controls Messed Up

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Reuben Feffer Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)
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Jul 20, 2012 2:17 PM

Has anyone tried editing (adjusting) their photos in iPhoto 9.3.1? I just tried it, and the sliders (e.g. white point, highlights, shadows) are giving really weird results. I'm starting to wonder if it's an incompatability between iPhoto 9.3.1 and the graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB) in my iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010).

 

Here are two screenshot, showing what I see when I adjust the black and white point sliders. Look how unnatural the photo looks. This definitely wasn't the behaviour of these controls in iPhoto '09.

 

iPhoto 9.3.1 - Black Point 45%.png

iPhoto 9.3.1 - White Point 55%.png

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.2), iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010) 12GB RAM
  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (113,135 points)
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    Jul 20, 2012 3:33 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    You're messing with the histogram of color levels of the image, not the black and white aspect of the photo.  That's natural what you get when you move those sliders that way.  I downloaded the original file and tried it in iPhoto with the same results that you got. I also tried the same adjustment in Photoshop with the same results.

     

    If you want to play with black and white use the Saturation slider.

     

    This is one description of what the histogram/levels adjustments do (from Photoshop)

    Levels overview

    You use the Levels dialog box to correct the tonal range and color balance of an image by adjusting intensity levels of image shadows, midtones, and highlights. The Levels histogram is a visual guide for adjusting the image key tones.

     

    OT

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (113,135 points)
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    Jul 21, 2012 11:45 AM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    I get exactly the same effect when I apply the same histogram manipulation in Photoshop as we get in iPhoto.  It can't be an iPhoto issue.

     

    This is what I get in iPhoto 8 (09):

     

    iPhoto001.jpg

    iPhoto002.jpg

    I don't see any difference from that you posted by iPhoto 9 (11) except maybe a bitt more posterized.

     

    What previous version of iPhoto are you relating to? 

  • whitewave081175 Calculating status...
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    Jul 28, 2012 12:11 AM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    I completely agree Reuben. A simple adjustment of photos in iPhoto used to be a quick easy and effective process. Now I have to find a new program to use as it just doesn't produce the same results. It's horrible. I wish I could roll back to the old version. What happened Apple??

  • John McInnes Calculating status...
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    Sep 22, 2012 9:15 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    Make that 3 out of 70000000!

    I had 8.1.2 on the macbook 13".  The shadow adjustment slider used to work like a charm.  It now (in 9.3.2) lifts everything: watch the whole histogram move to the right when you use the shadow slider.  Apple has really bollocksed this one up, and what for?  If it ain't broke don't fix it.  I've sent a bug report to Apple because i agree, Reuben, this is a massive bug.  Apple, are you listening?

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (121,655 points)
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    Sep 23, 2012 3:51 AM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    Apple, please fix this.

     

    Please tell Apple you want it fixed.

     

    iPhoto menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback

  • K. Houser Calculating status...
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    Dec 3, 2012 5:54 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    Just to keep this discussion alive, I want to say that I agree.  The old "adjust" histogram was great..easy to use with great results; now it is useless.  I wish they would go back to the old tools.

     

    I still have time to back down to a previous version of iPhoto, though it will take me a while. 

  • John McInnes Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Apr 24, 2013 6:59 PM (in response to Reuben Feffer)

    I read that somewhere too, and it put me off getting Aperture.  The old version of Aperture allowed you to adjust the behaviour of the shadow and highlight tools but now it has been "simplified".  Getting back to iPhoto, there is no doubt that the new shadow tool causes much worse loss of contrast than the old one.

     

    The first image set below shows the old shadow adjustment effect as settings 0, 11, 50, and 100.  The effect I wanted was at 11: just a little shadow detail without losing the brooding look of the scene.  For comparison I also snapped screenshots at 50 and 100.  Even the weird HDR look at 100 retains some punch.  Note that the right side of the histogram stays put.

    Shadow adjustment comparison.jpg

    Shadow adjustment comparison2.jpg

    The above is the new behaviour, also at 0, 11, 50, and 100.    The new version of the tool is washing it out.  The old settings are not numerically equivalent to the new, and so using the new tool the effect I wanted was at about 50.  They may not look that different when downsized but the new tool is causing loss of contrast.

     

    The effect is best illustrated when it is exaggerated, so compare old 50 with new 100 (which are roughly equivalent to my eye).

    old 50.jpg

    new 100.jpg

    So there you have it, what was once good is now mediocre.

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