hungarian language layoff, missing number 0

meanwhile a lot of option key, still missing the number 0, why?

the question, how we could setting option key layoff?

Leopard, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on Jul 20, 2012 9:27 PM

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Jul 21, 2012 5:15 AM in response to Cattus Thraex

Use this one, I did it for you:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4798849/for%20others/HU_us.zip

Unzip and move the keylayout and icns files to /Library/Keyboard layout, log out and log in again, go to sys prefs, and activate the keylayout. You will get zero at the level option/alt+[letter] O, the level option+zero is for } and °, which may be be useful, while Ņ is for Latvian only.

Note. The icns file is for identification only, I just chose a flag different from the default Hungarian flag in the system. You may live without it, but you will get a generic greyish icon when switching to this keylayout.

Jul 21, 2012 3:41 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Right: Hungarian and other Central European languages are affected when you do not have the European ISO physical keyboard, the one with an extra key left to Z (or Y on the QWERT keyboard, also used in Hungary). Another language affected was (is not any more) Romanian (could not access ș Ș on such an U.S. physical keyboard).

The solution is indeed to create a custom Hungarian keylayout via UKELELE. If this is a burden to you, drop me a line via a private message, I have using UKELELE for years just for creating alternative keylayouts for a series of languages. I was not aware that Hungarian is also affected when used with U.S. physical keyboards. The problem is simple to solve, perhaps the most convenint location would be Option/Alt-0 for this.

Jul 21, 2012 8:19 AM in response to buchmueller

This is an inheriteid situation: initially, Apple planned these keylayouts to be used with European ISO physical keyboards. Nevertheless, many people have U.S. physical keyboards and, if so, if the keylayout uses the chars left to Z/Y and left to 1, these must be repeated somewhere at the option/alt level, otherwise they vanish. For Romanian, Apple found a solution beginning with Leopard (letter ș Ș) if the Romanian (traditional or Apple) keylayout is used, as I see they have not found something similar for Hungarian. The solution is simple, though. Users of Hungarian should send their feedback, to be implemented some time later.

Nov 25, 2013 9:23 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Correct, zero is available at the level option-alt + ` [i.e. left to 1 on the U.S. physical keyboards] with Hungaria QWERY active if using a U.S. physical keyboard. Zero does not seem available with Hungarian [QWERTZ] keylayout if a U.S. physical keyboard is used. This is an obvious error of the keylayout creator, and it is not, unfortunately, the only one. I reported some of them when coming across them, no reaction, no change. The old Romanian keylayout had a similar issue (i.e. missing char) if used with a U.S. physical keyboard.

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