Can't open the application (...) because it is no supported by this type of Mac

Hi, I am not sure if I sending this to the right forum. I am becoming increasingly frustrated as recently I am getting more of these messages (as in heading of this question) and I am not sure what to do. The apps I am trying to install meet all the requirements but I cannot open them.


Using:

Model Name: iMac

Model Identifier: iMac4,1

Processor Name: Intel Core Duo

Processor Speed: 2 GHz

Number Of Processors: 1

Total Number Of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 2 MB

Memory: 1.5 GB

Bus Speed: 667 MHz

Boot ROM Version: IM41.0055.B08

SMC Version (system): 1.1f5

Serial Number (system): W86036CQU2P

Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-0016CB860350


Any comment or suggestion would be hugely appreciated. I hope I won't have to use Terminal to sort this problem.

Many thanks in advance.

Posted on Jul 22, 2012 6:34 AM

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Jul 22, 2012 8:32 AM in response to Roberto56

If you're trying to open a very old app (OS 9 or earlier), no, it will not open. Tiger (10.4.x) and earlier supported Classic mode, which was OS 9 running in emulation. Leopard and later do not support Classic.


Your Mac is an Intel model. No Mac with an Intel CPU has ever supported Classic. So if this isn't the issue, you'll need to provide more details about what isn't working.

Jul 22, 2012 8:51 AM in response to Kurt Lang

No Mac with an Intel CPU has ever supported Classic.

I take that back. We have an iMac Core 2 Duo, basically the same as yours. One of the few Mac models with an Intel CPU that shipped with its own Intel version of Tiger, which does indeed support Classic. Tiger was never available in the retail version for Intel Macs; PowerPC only.


So I'm guessing that yes, you are referring to old Motorola 680x0 Classic apps. There is no way to run them in Leopard or later, other than than a third party emulator like Sheepshaver. However, that is only the emulator. To get that to work, you need an Apple ROM, which is illegal for you to own unless you also own the exact same Mac the ROM is from. Beyond that, I've read many reports that it doesn't work all that well.

Jul 22, 2012 10:53 AM in response to Klaus1

The latest one is qBittorrent 2.9.11 for Mac OS X Snow Leopard / Lion / Mountain Lion, but it has happened in the past with other apps, although I cannot remember which one on top of my head.

I have read something involving Terminal can be done to make an app executable but I am not really sure about the commands required and worried I may mess something up.

Jul 22, 2012 5:14 PM in response to Roberto56

Given the OS versions qBittorrent is supposed to run under, it has to already be a Universal, or Intel only app. You shouldn't need to do anything special to get it to run.


Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm just throwing this out as a possible reason. There is a lot of completely legal stuff you can get through torrents, but the vast majority of it is illegal software. This software, no matter how clean a torrent site may claim them to be, are the choice of crooks to load up with backdoors, key loggers, you name it. If you've installed any, or a lot of such software on your Mac, don't at all be surprised it isn't running as expected.

Jul 23, 2012 3:32 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Thanks fot the imput. I see what you mean. The thing is that I am 'torrent virgin', meaning I have never even tried to download a torrent and was told this is the best.... In any case, the icon has a bas across and won't start at all. Plus, I had the same problem in the past with other programs. I guess there may be issues with permissions or something. I remember reading in a forum at one point that some people had trouble even installing Mac OS Snow, which put me off from upgrading at first, as I feared I wouldn't work on my Mac (it did though).

So, I am not sure it has to do with what you are suggesting: in fact I have friends who can run the program without a problem on the same machine as mine...

Thanks

Jul 23, 2012 5:30 AM in response to Roberto56

In any case, the icon has a bar across and won't start at all.

Hmm, there's no reason the app shouldn't run under Snow Leopard.


Here's one possibility. When you installed SL, did you update it? The latest release on the retail DVD is 10.6.3, but the most up-to-date version is 10.6.8. It is not at all uncommon for apps to require a certain level of updates in order to work.


Go to the apple icon at the top left and choose About This Mac. What is the version number? It it's not 10.6.8, you haven't applied all updates, and that very well could be preventing the app, and others, from working.

Jul 23, 2012 10:51 AM in response to Roberto56

The thing is that I am 'torrent virgin', meaning I have never even tried to download a torrent and was told this is the best

In this case... I just want to put [extra] empahsis on Kurt Lang's comment with respect to being cautious about torrents. It is a great way to distribute large files (especially for small developers who can't spend tons on bandwidth), but a huge percentage of the files you may find on torrent search sites contain viruses or other malware. Mind you, I'm talking torrent search sites, not torrents in general. I get most of my linux distros via torrents, but those torrents are actually posted on the respective linux websites (along with other download options such as FTP and HTTP). You shouldn't trust downloading torrents from untrusted sources any more than you would anything else. Anyone can create a torrent and put it out there calling it whatever they choose. For example, somone can create a torrent called "Office 2011 for Mac", but infact it is a small program that will start wiping your drive once you launch it. That of course would be an obvious problem. They can also be much more sneaky by providing you with a workign copy of Office 2011, but with additional code inserted which can get private information or pretty much do anything the programer wants without you ever knowing about it.

Jul 23, 2012 11:59 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:


No Mac with an Intel CPU has ever supported Classic.

I take that back. We have an iMac Core 2 Duo, basically the same as yours. One of the few Mac models with an Intel CPU that shipped with its own Intel version of Tiger, which does indeed support Classic. Tiger was never available in the retail version for Intel Macs; PowerPC only.


So I'm guessing that yes, you are referring to old Motorola 680x0 Classic apps. There is no way to run them in Leopard or later, other than than a third party emulator like Sheepshaver. However, that is only the emulator. To get that to work, you need an Apple ROM, which is illegal for you to own unless you also own the exact same Mac the ROM is from. Beyond that, I've read many reports that it doesn't work all that well.

Kurt: This is the first I have EVER heard of an Intel Mac running Classic natively, without emulation (and I have done quite a bit of research)! Please reconfirm that this is correct, and if you can reconfirm it correctness, you might want to let the researchers noted in the two links below know about these abilities.


Also, your statement regarding Mac ROMs is too broad and overly restrictive. The emaculation link below indicates a method for extraction of Classic Mac ROMs from an active Apple download link for a ROMs update. I just tried the link last night and it is still active.


I always caution those who make such legal pronouncements to exercise caution; as they tend to keep users from solutions that are otherwise legally available. And I am sure that is not your intention:


http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/...mac_os_x_setup



and here is some additional information on SheepShaver:


http://www.everymac.com/mac-answers/...ntel-macs.html


I have had considerable success with SheepShaver, running this version of Risk II for the OP of a post on another forum as well as being able to access legacy MORE and WordPerfect files in my archives:


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Jul 23, 2012 12:22 PM in response to JoeyR

Thanks for the warning. It isn't my intention to download any software, just music.

I do use other software for torrents but it seems that qBittorrent is particularly fast.


Irrespective of this, however, I still would like to know what the issue might be. I tried searching on the net but I have only found a message slightly different from mine in that it uses the phrase 'not supported on this architecture' rather than 'not supported on this type of Mac'. It is a bit odd that noone else has ever seen or enquired about this message.

Many thanks for your help anyway.

Jul 23, 2012 1:41 PM in response to MlchaelLAX

Please reconfirm that this is correct,

It is not. Checked the installer disks, too. No Classic. Which makes complete sense since you'd not only be emulating the OS 9 environment, but also a PowerPC CPU. I could have sworn it was there, but I must have been thinking of the G5 tower I sold sometime back.

Also, your statement regarding Mac ROMs is too broad and overly restrictive.

Well, that really depends on what you read and where you read it. This is the most common description I've read, but hardly the only one.

I just tried the link last night and it is still active.

Yes it is, but that doesn't make downloading a ROM legal. Anymore than it does to download illegal software. Read the page on the site you linked to about the ROM guide.


Note that one of the first things they tell you to do is purchase an old Mac. Then use the appropriate software to make an image of the ROM on that Mac. So yes, if you're going to legally obtain a ROM, you need to own the Mac you are acquiring it from.

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