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How to Merge Eudora into Apple Mail?

Mac OS 10.5.8 is now obsolete. So I'm planning to upgrade to Lion 10.7.x.


Since Lion does not support Eudora, I must switch to some other email client. After many hours of research I have decided to switch to Apple Mail.


Unfortunately, the two popular conversion applications (Emailchemy and Eudora Mailbox Cleaner) appear no longer in existence.


Any good tips on how to merge Eudora into Apple Mail on OS 10.5.8 (so I can upgrade to Lion 10.7.x)?


Thank you.


Scott "pulling his hair out" in Saint Louis

iMac Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jul 24, 2012 5:13 PM

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Jan 11, 2014 2:11 PM in response to bonedog

I had been putting off upgrading from Snow Leapord (10.6.8) due to the fact that like others posting here my long time favorite email client Eudora will no longer work on any newer versions of the Mac OS.


Eudora Mailbox Cleaner looked promising but it only runs on PowerPC computers running Rosetta. I finally dug into it yesterday and found a pretty slick program called Emailchemy. It's a virtual swiss army knife for converting from and to most of the popular email programs. It's $29.95.


The documentation is fairly sparse and not as detailed as I'd like but for the most part it worked well. The dates of the emails came through, attachments were there, everything in Eudora was moved to Mail. The only thing is I did end up going through viewing all my mailboxes in Eudora and comparing the count of messages to what was converted in Mail. There were a few emails in some mailboxes that for some reason did not transfer. I just forwarded those messages from Eudora and filed them in Mail.


Some of the steps I took:

1. Backed up my entire drive with SuperDuper.

2. Went through my old emails. I had many emails that I really didn't need to save.

(Sorting by sender in Eudora was a big help in finding messages that needed to go.)

3. Re-file or made new mailboxes as I was sorting through the messages.

4. Option-click on the mail count/size in the bottom left panel of Eudora to compact the mailboxes.

5. Made a copy of my Mail and Mail Download folders that are in /Users/user name/Library/

6. Using Emailchemy I started the conversion.

a. Pointed to my Eudora folder in Documents.

b. Choose Export to Mail 1.0

c. From Mail choose File/Import mail.

7. Compared email counts between Eudora and Mail and forwarded to myself messages from Eudora that were missing.

8. Checked dates and attachments.


Emailchemy recommends using the included imap server as opposed to exporting and importing. For whatever reason I could never get this to work despite making sure I had all the ports and settings as mentioned.


I came across an article from 2011 on Tidbits that was the most thorough discussion of this issue after I did the conversion. Although a little dated you may want to ceck it out here.



Glenn Grafton

glenn@graftonpiano.com

Jan 11, 2014 2:45 PM in response to bonedog

Some years ago I decided that it was unwise to continue with any mail client which did not use clean mbox or could import from mbox and export to it reliably.


Prior to that I had used Eudora lite for several years. I consulted widely and switched to Thunderbird. The import from Eudora was OK for messages which are mbox but not for the non-mbox extracted attachments. I overcame these problems by getting my 40 MB mail file from the local UNIX server. The advantage of mbox is that, for incoming mail, the server and client mbox files are the same. However, I doubt that many have left all their mail on a server and even if they have they probably can't walk to the server manager's office for assistance in transferring such large files.


A subsequent transfer from FirstClass was much more messy.


I still regularly transfer mbox files between computers with no trouble whatsoever but my use of POP and archive only folders (no structure except a folder per year) are significant factors. I also bcc all outgoing messages to myself so that all my computers have the same incoming and outgoing emails.


The moral here is don't blindly switch to Apple Mail as it is not proper mbox although I have documented elsewhere on Apple forums how to import from and export to mbox reliably but only one folder at a time.

Jan 11, 2014 2:59 PM in response to Neville Hillyer

Neville Hillyer, which e-mail client would you recommend?


I have evaluated many but none of them is a true Eudora replacement. Sadly, MailForge is a never-ending beta. I then liked PowerMail because it is powerful and allows a lot of imports and exports, but its 2GB databse limit is a deal breaker for me. So, eventually I have decided to switch to Apple Mail soon, unlesss I can find a better alternative.


Many thanks to all for the great information.

Jan 25, 2014 3:22 AM in response to Lowell Levinger

Lowell Levinger wrote:


I'm about to switch over from Windows to a Mac. I use Eudora 7. something on Windows XP. Does anyone know a way to transfer mailboxes from the Windows PC platform over to the Mac?

Thanks


It would have been better to start a new thread on an appropriate forum (normally by OS) for your Mac. However, you may be interested in the following:


http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1644hq.html


You need to check that this is compatible with your Mac OS.

Feb 1, 2014 5:17 PM in response to Glenn Grafton

I am planning a migration from the Windows based Eudora to MAC Mail also using Emailchemy's IMAP server hoping that it will work. Thanks for sharing your migration experience. I know I will miss Eudora but by now it crashes a few times a month.


I am wondering if you could compare MAC Mail w. Eudora and help me understand what helpful features that Eudora has are missing in MAC Mail. Are there any limitations in MAC Mail (number or size of mailboxes, folders, Emails)?


Thanks

Feb 2, 2014 4:00 AM in response to Suzy2014

Comparison:


  1. Apple Mail has far fewer settings that you can control
  2. Neither Eudora nor Apple Mail are pure mbox


My advice:


  1. Move to Thunderbird on Windows first
  2. Next move to Thunderbird on Mac
  3. Use Apple Mail in parallel with Thunderbird
  4. Consolidate on the one you prefer


Notes:


  1. Easy migration, both Mozilla, attachments may be an issue
  2. Easy migration - should not be any issues
  3. A simple way to see which you prefer
  4. Import should be simple


All the above moves will probably work reasonably well without any third party software.

Feb 2, 2014 9:46 AM in response to bonedog

Thanks a lot for your quick and helpful suggestions. I am a non-technical person, so I have to figure out if I can execute multiple migrations, etc.


In theory I am looking for the easiest way to migrate to avoid causing problems that I would not be able to deal with. I heard about Thunderbird and got concerned about it when I looked at https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/compactlost with cries going back to 3 years ago from too many people about compacting deleting their mails. Apparently Thunderbird fixes are not released often as there are not enough paid or volunteer staff working on it.


I cannot afford to lose my mail or attachments or have mail corrupted. That's why I would like to find a reliable client that I could live with. I was hoping that MAC Mail could do the job once I get my mail over to it. My ISP is Comcast and I learned that they supposedly work well with MAC Mail under Mavericks. I just do not know what is that people who used and loved Eudora are missing most in MAC Mail.


I will consider running in parallel after I figure out if I can migrate over reliably without problems that I cannot fix. Obviously I would have to leave my mail on the server and probably send each mail w. copy to myself to ensure that while using two clients I can still have all my mail in one place. For now this seems like a big undertaking for me, but I am learning.


Does MAC Mail support multiple personalities? Thanks again.


P.S. I can see that I am not alone in my quest. As suggested, I did start a new thread (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5853460) but got no answers...

Feb 2, 2014 6:44 PM in response to bonedog

I actually was faced with the same situation myself. I was a long time Eudora user. I had put off switching for awhile. I first looked into Eudora mailbox cleaner but it needs to run on a PowerPC based Mac.


I came came across Emailchemy http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/ and it seemed to do what I needed. No it's not free, but if it saved me time and did what it said it would I figured it was a cheap.


I didn't get the IMAP server conversion to work. I'm comfortable with this stuff but I gave up that route. What I did use was just convert Eudora folder to Mac Mail.


I had looked at Thunderbird but the more I read the more hesitant I got. I knew Apple will continue to make improvements and upgrades.


What do I like/not like about the change?


Pro's for Eudora:

More powerful filters. I had extensive filters including ones that would for example: subject contains (several male enhancement medications) delete from server, and I never even got the messages as junk.

Better searching options.


Pro's for Mail:

Actually seeing HTML email messages as they should without having to one them in a browser.

Mailboxes are actually better than Eudora, always viewable n the left.

It will always be compatible with Apple's latest software.


Hope that helps.


Sent from my iPad

Feb 2, 2014 9:10 PM in response to Glenn Grafton

Thanks, Glenn. This is very helpful. Based on what you mentioned, the only item that I need to further explore that concerns me is Search. I'd love to understand if Mac Mail will allow me to search across all or selected mailboxes or folders, if I can search or not for a particular text string in the body of messages in the selcted mailboxes or folders, or search by sender or subject. I appreciate your time.


P.S. I would have liked to assign "points" to the reply but I could not locate a place to do it.....

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