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  • sonicgoss Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Attila wrote:

     

    Since version 3, Firefox is not a replacement for anything!

     

    But Google Chrome is! (and it uses webkit)

     

    After fixing so many computers I've lost count who have been exposed to Chrome - I will NEVER use it.  It was and still is a overbearning memory hog.  Consumes more computer resources than almost every browser.

     

    Firefox is a replacement for checking my RSS feeds while working on sites. I'm not using it for anything else. At least until Safari fixes this problem, which I'm trusting the people of Apple to do the right thing.

     

    NOT TO MENTION....as a developer, Chome (and Explorer) don't conform to web standards, so there is NO WAY I'm using them.  Don't even get me started on Ads or the fact that they track your data....

  • neil456 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    erebos wrote:

     

    neil456 wrote:

     

    A form of communications managed, monitored, and analyzed by a third party with unknown intent, for unknown reasons, and shared with unknown people and businesses.

     

    You are either unaware or uncaring (and that is your right), but that does not make twitter a solution that builds a good future for those of us that do care about privacy.

     

    Neil, what makes you so trustful of the people who make your web browser, the people who make your OS, the people who run the fiber backhaul, the people who put your computer together in a factory in commie/fascist China? All of those 3rd parties and you choose Twitter as the bad guy? Interesting. I would like to know more about how you came to this conclusion.

    Believe it or not, I used a bit of logic.  At least today, I can monitor all of my outbound connections so I know if my computer is doing something it should not be.  With other carriers I use encryption for everything that is important, but there is also an implied privacy.  If I am not happy with their privacy, then I can switch ISPs.  It is really disturbing that you have to have such basic stuff explained.

     

    But most importantly, none of the others you mention have a business model that is based on selling information about me to make a profit.  Just how do you think Twitter pays its employees and for all those servers? Same with Google and Facebook.  I'll bet you think it is just a free service that you can take advantage of.  You'll learn when you grow up that nothing is free.

     

    And I only picked twitter because someone suggested it as an alternative to RSS.  Since RSS can be (was in Safari) direct from the source server to my browser there were no privacy issues.  Not the same with RSS apps that agregrate or RSS services or notifications or Facebook or Twitter or Goggle.

  • erebos Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Can you really monitor your connections Neil? Are you sure? Are you sure the hardware is telling the OS the truth? How do you know for sure Neil? You don't know, you just tell yourself you know. You tell yourself that "implied" privacy is good enough but the very idea of relying on implications is insane. How will you know the ISP violated your "privacy", you'll never know. Your arguments are severely flawed I'm afraid.

  • atimoshenko Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Removing native RSS from Safari 6 (and from pretty much the whole of Mountian Lion) was a really poor decision. RSS is flexible and robust in a way that Twitter and Reading List/Reader are not. I'm all for cutting legacy features early, but there was nothing gained in terms of simplicty or pushing for new standards as a result of this decision. Whichever product manager made the call deserves a strict talking to, and the feature should be brought back. It's the biggest blemish on the otherwise beautiful 10.8 release.

  • Attila Level 3 Level 3 (610 points)

    Oh my, this thread is going nowhere. You are insulting eachother and discussing off-topic matters.

     

    Anyway, in short, we want Safari RSS, and don't want a separate app for it. I loved the numbers next to items in the Bookmarks Bar!

  • Ben_G Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    CVE-2012-0678

     

    From what I can gather, this is why RSS has been removed: a gigantic security hole bang in the middle of Safari.

    My guess is that this is a temporary measure, and service will resume in the next incremental release.

    It looks like it was bad timing - the hole was found earlier in the year, and my guess is that engineers couldn't fix it and get ML released on time also.

     

    Of course, I may be wrong on all counts.

  • matijsbrs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You can count me in with this..

     

    I would really badly like to see the RSS feed back in safari..

     

    I understand that apple is looking to streamline safari, but I think that having RSS feed support in safari is really something which is quite an important part of the whole internet feeling.

     

    And yes, I also used the Feedback page. I'm also posting to make a point here.

     

    Regards,

     

    Matijs

  • Mat Pridham1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ben_G wrote:

     

    CVE-2012-0678

     

    From what I can gather, this is why RSS has been removed: a gigantic security hole bang in the middle of Safari.

    My guess is that this is a temporary measure, and service will resume in the next incremental release.

    It looks like it was bad timing - the hole was found earlier in the year, and my guess is that engineers couldn't fix it and get ML released on time also.

     

    Of course, I may be wrong on all counts.

     

    From what I've been reading online, via "trusted sources", it was not a temporary discission.  They may change their minds, due to all the fuss everyone is making...  but apprently it was part of a larger plan.

     

     

    RaceManRocks wrote:

     

    I Use RSS in IOS Safari EVERY SINGLE DAY. Multiple times a day. If they remove RSS from Safari IOS, I'll be So F#[##]ing ANGRY!!

     

     

    Rumor has it, it's gone too .  I sure hope not, but that's the word on the street.

  • Mat Pridham1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    [I appologise in advance for the off-topic comment -- someone was wrong the internet, I couldn't resist. ]

     

    sonicgoss wrote:

     

    NOT TO MENTION....as a developer, Chome (and Explorer) don't conform to web standards, so there is NO WAY I'm using them.

     

    Just wanted to mention, for anyone that might be confused by this comment, that Chrome and Safari use the same layout engine -> WebKit.

     

    While Chrome sets different base CSS rules than Safari, they both rely on the exact same programming to layout your code.  If you're seeing large differences between the two, you simply need to 'reset' more rules and attributes in your reset.css -- In other words, you just need a better reset.css.  Tell me you're using a reset.css???

     

     

    On a more related note: I've been running Safari 5.1.7, downgraded from v6, for the last few days and I can't tell you how much more productive I am to have RSS feeds back in my bookmarks bar.

  • forex420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apple *****.  They removed features we all depend on without any warning, for no reason.  And now we have to fall back on third-party "apps" to see the occasional RSS feed (which means my resentment for Apple is growing).

     

    Bottom line: Apple has slowly become Microsoft.  They will fall just as spectacularly.

  • nybe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    On a more related note: I've been running Safari 5.1.7, downgraded from v6, for the last few days and I can't tell you how much more productive I am to have RSS feeds back in my bookmarks bar.

    You don't believe how much you'll miss something until it's gone...

     

    I have Safari 5.1.7 still running on my computer at work and have come to realize, since the Safari 6 "update" RSS massacre (dramatic I know), just how much I really do use RSS on a very regular basis, probably even more so now. I will not be updating to ML anytime soon as I am not in need of share buttons and do not care about streaming Hulu to my nonexistent apple TV (really? those updates warrant a new OS??). I work on my computer for a living... and then I go outside and play.

     

    Anyway, still using Safari 6 at home (will be downgrading to v5.1.7 tonight) and it feels more like a fluffy "my first browser" social media toy; since I can't read any of my RSS feeds, I waste a lot more time looking at my friends & colleagues latest baby photos and gripes about how bad their day is going.

     

    Wow progress.

     

    Message was edited by: nybe

  • nfn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree...I'm totally upset now that I have to read my RSS feeds in Apple's Mail program. I want to be able to read RSS feeds in Safari. Safari ***** now. I guess at the end of the day, this gives me another reason to move to Chrome. Au Revoir Safari!

  • switchie2 Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    You say : "I've been running Safari 5.1.7, downgraded from v6, for the last few days"...


    How did you downgrade ?

     

    I tried but couldn't.

     

    - If i trash Safari 6, I'm warned it's impossible because it belongs to the system.

    - And if I try to install Safari 5 over safari 6 I'm told it's impossible because I have a newer version !

     

    So HOW DID YOU DO ? Please tell us :-))

    Thanks

    Sw

  • bigheadrsa Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Getting RSS back - uninstall Safari 6 - install Safari 5.1.7

     

    The solution is here :

     

    http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/57916/how-do-you-remove-safari-6-on-mac -osx-10-7-4

     

    If your downgraded Safari does not work, install Safari 5.1.7 again using the Safari5.1.7LionManual.dmg

  • JonK.. Level 2 Level 2 (230 points)

    if you want an RSS feeder for Safari,  there are several extensions you can download which bring that function to safari...

     

    you can also just do it in the Mail application in it's side bar instead... (any old RSS feed link in Safari if you click on it will give you that option)

     

    the RSS feed,   like flash,  slows Safari and your machine down considerably..  in the mail app they are checked when the rest of your mail accounts are checked during it's auto refresh cycle...

     

    http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/44228/subscribe-to-feed-safari-extension

     

     

    by the way,  a useful hint about flash on safari,  if you do download flash from adobe,   keep your "acitivty monitor" application in your system tool bar,   when you launch safari, and go to a webpage with a bunch of crappy flash adds,  click on activity monitor,  find the flash process that is running and kill it...   suddenly your safari application is about 10 times more responsive for every website  (that has flash adds)   if you need to watch a video in flash,   just relaunch Safari.. and there you have it,  and then when done immediately kill the flash process again...

     

    "activity monitor'  can be found in your applications folder then under the utilities folder...   (click on big stop icon after highlighting a process that is running)

     

    apple is interested in improving the whole experience and that means removing old tech that is slowing things down,  like flash and RSS, and replaceing them with new tech,    if you want the old tech, Apple is just allowing those companies to write extensions,  so you can get that function back.    but you would be wise to try to not do that, and find the new tech...

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