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Aug 13, 2012 1:43 PM in response to Allan Eckertby Mat Pridham1,Allan Eckert wrote:
Yes. The mods are but not the Apple engineers.
Allan
Considering that I and others have personally invited several of them to view this thread, and again, combined with the traction that it's received -- I respectfully disagree.
The fact that infringing comments are removed within mere seconds of posting, goes to show that this thread has the full attention of the moderators -- which would suggest to me that it would likely be talked about amongst the team leaders. Again, squeeky wheel.
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Aug 13, 2012 1:53 PM in response to ZORGALISCIOUSby Gunnar Rögnvaldsson,This is the first time ever in over 18 years that I hate my Mac computers, i.e. after loosing RSS in Safari 6.
And now it seems as the ".Mac Reader RSS service" on both my iPhone and iPad are closed down. At least it's not functioning at the moment. The iPad is therefore rendered useless for me. The iPhone is now just a GSM-telephone for me. I am not an "app" or "game person".
This is a whole new situation and I am absolutely speechless. No warning, no nothing. Half of my office is gone and it feels like my desk hat been replaced by not-a-single-thing.
I am truly shocked
Regards
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Aug 13, 2012 2:08 PM in response to Gunnar Rögnvaldssonby erebos,Gunnar Rögnvaldsson wrote:
I am not an "app" or "game person".
If you're not using app's or the appstore I'm pretty sure Apple is worried about you for totally different reasons than your opinion on RSS. They've obviously failed to communicate with you or you've failed to listen. I am a complete convert to the appstore model. The appstore creates a profit motive for small time developers who can find niche's that are under served. Even in it's infancy the OSX appstore still has an amazing array of applications performing niche funcitonality that I find useful. The app store is a revolution and you're really missing out on making full use of you Mac if you aren't using it.
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Aug 13, 2012 2:09 PM in response to Gunnar Rögnvaldssonby neil456,Gunnar Rögnvaldsson wrote:
This is the first time ever in over 18 years that I hate my Mac computers, i.e. after loosing RSS in Safari 6.
Sometimes, in order to push the envelope forward mistakes are made. Let's hope this is one of those times and that Apple is listening and correcting rather than abandoning us. Please be sure to file a bug report and safari feedback and talk to your friends about doing the same.
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Aug 13, 2012 2:14 PM in response to ZORGALISCIOUSby testosterosa,Ya know, really professional organizations that CARE about their customers give some warning. They say something like "XXX is depreciated and will go away in the future." It gives people a chance to plan.
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Aug 13, 2012 2:49 PM in response to neil456by Gunnar Rögnvaldsson,Thank your for your reply
I have already sent Apple feedback. And I am afraid it was equally "gentle" as Apple's removal of Safaris's RSS-workspace and the whole RSS-workplace was to me.
This situation reminds me of the old "Mozilla 0.7+ situation", just before Apple created Safari. The argument then was that the OSS-community would provide the web-browsing capabilities to our platform. Then Steve launched Safari. At last.
I have to overlook about 150 - 200 feeds on a dayli and weekly basis; a) many of the worlds statistical offices RSS-feeds, b) Banks research departments RSS-feeds - c) professional papers RSS-feeds - d) organizations RSS-feeds - e) the media RSS-feeds - f) governments ect. Safari dit this as the best RSS-tool in the world, integrated right into my platform. I live to know and know to live.
This is now all gone. "My paper is gone".
What he **** is really going on?
Best Regards
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Aug 13, 2012 10:23 PM in response to Gunnar Rögnvaldssonby eddy kestemont,All day long, yesterday was reader.mac.com down, so no feeds (at least simple to consult and read) nor on iOS nor in Safari.
Today, reader.mac.com is up and running agan. I hope it will continue to work and be still functionnal in iOS 6.
I need rss feeds in Safari as soon as possible. I already wrote to feedback at Apple.
Meanwhile, I am reluctant to buy a new Retina MacBook as these need Mountain Lion and thus Safari 6.
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Aug 14, 2012 6:28 AM in response to neil456by phil3481,PLEASE put RSS back into Safari, more Apple less google
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Aug 14, 2012 9:33 AM in response to ZORGALISCIOUSby darudy,I recently bought a new MacBookPro, so I am still under AppleCare.
I called AppleCare to note that my RSS bookmarks, imported from Migration Assistant, were not functioning.
The support person had nothing to say, other than to confirm that the RSS functionality was removed. I asked him to escalate it as a bug up to engineering. He basically shrugged that off saying he could mention it to the other support staff but wouldn't be filing it as a bug.
So when I got the followup survey of my AppleCare experience, I gave extremely low marks, that my problem was not solved by the support person, and gave the details that this is a regression. I stated my belief that regressions should be of the highest priority bugs to fix, as they impact functionality customers were actively using.
Not sure if it helps or fell on deaf ears, but I'm at least trying to make Apple aware of how much they've affected users.
As for the "App Store" model: I dislike this. I should not have to weed through a handful of apps to figure out which one performs the function that Safari with the OS used to perform (which I cannot downgrade!), buy it without possibility of return/refund, only to discover it's not really what I'm looking for (which, it never can be, it's not integrated into the very browser I'm using to read the websites serving RSS).
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Aug 14, 2012 1:52 PM in response to darudyby erebos,darudy wrote:
As for the "App Store" model: I dislike this. I should not have to weed through a handful of apps to figure out which one performs the function that Safari with the OS used to perform (which I cannot downgrade!), buy it without possibility of return/refund, only to discover it's not really what I'm looking for (which, it never can be, it's not integrated into the very browser I'm using to read the websites serving RSS).
I don't begrudge anyone wanting their RSS in Safari. But, if you look in the appstore there are tons of RSS readers that are popular. Logically, there are tons of people buying those instead of using Safari's built in RSS. Not to mention the popularity of online services offered by Google and others.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:03 PM in response to erebosby Gunnar Rögnvaldsson,Yes. There are tons on tons supplied of almost everything in the world. The really hard question for everyone supplying any-thing is why I should buy X instead of the remaining characters offered in the whole alphabet.
Maybe it would be a brilliant idea to remove the web-browsing engine out of Safari and move it over to an independent app and thereby transform the Safari web-browser into a book-keeping and bookmarking-system that takes care of users links to all the other apps that would be required to use the Internet on the Internet of the Internet.
I probably have to downgrade my machine-park back to earth if this silly absurdness is to stand. I don't have time for a half-browser in the year of 2012.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:22 PM in response to Gunnar Rögnvaldssonby erebos,Looks like irrationality is a common trait amongst those complaining about RSS in this thread. I guess Gunnar won't be using the Chrome half-browser or the Firefox half-browser since they both lack built in RSS funcitonality.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:34 PM in response to nybeby erebos,You all sound like a bunch of babies who had your pacifiers taken away, and thats the gods honest truth. I hope you can figure out how to point and click your way through the appstore to find an RSS reader like the users of Chrome and Firefox do.
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