Q: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
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Aug 29, 2012 11:56 AMby boomboom_uk,erebos wrote:
Aside from the frequent displays of jack booted thuggery, bad teeth, weird accents, and imbecilic turns of phrase, the UK and it's people aren't so bad.
Sorry.....I thought this was the Apple Discussions site.
Your contribution is so prejudiced! It's a bit like me saying that all Americans are obese, gun-toting, bible-bashers most of whom don't possess passports. Ridiculous!
Back to topic....BRING BACK RSS TO SAFARI.
Complaint lodged with Apple Inc (USA)!
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Sep 1, 2012 12:55 AMby erebos,It's kind of a dumb article. Facebook has never had RSS, that alone should have killed RSS if anything, it did not. But the main problem with this article is that RSS was never intended for billion dollar companies, its called RSS because it's SIMPLE, as in, anyone can do it! Anyone being Joe Blow off the street not Facebook and it's former 100 billion dollar valuation. Are you going to fault the NYT for wanting to be able pay writers a salary and doing everything they can to ensure that? I'm not, I just won't read the NYT I couldn't care less what the NYT does, or what Apple does to RSS... if you're relying on or praying for some billion dollar for-profit entity to be the saviour of RSS, you're in for a long wait!
I remember when Facebook launched the world wide LIKE button. Everyone said the same thing, they're taking over. Now I've noticed fewer and fewer people clicking on those. I haven't seen sites drop Facebook yet but it's coming I promise you!
So take the tinfoil hats off and just chill, RSS is safe and in the hands it's supposed to be in, the people's hands.
In the grand scheme it means nothing though you know, there is a world outside the internet! (Surprise!) People forget that, what is Facebook when you're walking in a park, or driving down the street, or waiting in the check out at a grocery store. It's NOTHING. Turn off the phone and let it be NOTHING.
My philosophy was, if Facebook takes over the internet, then maybe the internet is just too f____ng stupid for my time.
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Sep 1, 2012 6:41 AMby Glen M,Over the past year, all of Apple's latest products and serices have seemed like one huge beta product as it releases its parade of half-baked ideas to the public. Most of the software and services I have depended upon to make my life easier has been removed to make room for advertising-laden social-crapps like Facebook and Twitter.
By the way, there has NEVER been any social function that has endured more than a few years (AOL, Earthlink, Prodigy, Geocities, Friends United, MySpace, Bebo, et al.)
To make my life much more difficult just so they can shoehorn "new" crapps into their OS in a feeble attempt to jump on a train that has long passed is the sign of insanity running the boardroom; brain-dead execs scrambling to make a new buck on an old idea because not one person has had a new idea worthy of lasting long into the future since the passing of Steve.
As a result, there is very little stopping me from moving to a different OS when the time comes; staying with Apple's constantly shifting fads is just as difficult as moving to a whole new platform. My entire Mac.com iDisk hosting all of my photos and blog on MY WEBSITE (not Wordpress crapp) with my own RSS feed all built into the very simple and powerful iWeb app. It was an awesome site and extremely easy to design, set up and update. It is ALL GONE, having been gradually eroded by every OS update. I have tried to reproduce it, but it takes numerous unrelated apps and services, and even then it is lame, not to mention difficult trying to orchestrate so many disparate parts. It's as if Apple wants the internet for only 14 year old girls or IT coding pros working for wealthy corporate website owners; everyone in the middle is promptly ignored and thoroughly screwed.
Sacrificing the tried and true interfaces and functions for dated fads is NOT innovative. It's NOT the Apple Steve created.
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Sep 1, 2012 7:06 AMby neil456,erebos wrote:
It's kind of a dumb article.
This is exactly the same kind of thinking that gives us Enron (and other corporate misdeeds), the endless political law breakers, and stealing of our children's future.
All caused because people just do not care about freedom and privacy and think their opinions don't make a difference. Colectively we no longer demand good behavior. Privacy and freedom are real issues and when you discover their importance it will probably be too late to get them back. Please, try to think just a little bit more into the future than your next tweet.
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Sep 1, 2012 9:45 AMby Enrico CHP,I quote neil456
Too many are quick to point out alternatives to what for other users was a perfect workflow.
Personally, I kept my eye on 20/30 RSS feeds WITHOUT having to switch to an external app. I had to buy Reeder, but if Apple were to re-introduce RSS functionality into Safari, I would gladly erase Reeder from my Macs.
Bottom line, if you are perfectly happy to run two separate apps for one task, good for you, but please do not try to convince other people that's the best option.
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Sep 1, 2012 10:08 AMby s4lex,erebos wrote:
It's kind of a dumb article. Facebook has never had RSS, that alone should have killed RSS if anything, it did not.
I wonder why some people keep coming back with posts like these?
Oh yeah, because Troll.
http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=212445198787494
http://www.staynalive.com/2011/05/twitter-and-facebook-both-quietly-kill.html
Before you lamely critique ("dumb!") Adam Turner's well thought out and written article, try doing a little research. If you are not familiar with this concept, your peers might refer to it as "googling".
It is a real shame that a historically innovative company like Apple has chosen to fall into line, like another leaderless (RIP Steve Jobs) fanboy, behind the Social Web darlings Facebook and Twitter. If I was on the board of Apple, Mr. M.B.A. Tim Cook would be switftly replaced with Sir Jonathan Ive.
Maybe this is all a bad dream and I'll wake up to find RSS back in Safari 6.1 and OS X 10.8.2, and the insanely great mind of Ive in command of Apple. The way things are headed, this company might need this knight in shining iArmor sooner rather than later.
1984 Corporate IBM, 2012 Cooked Apple... same difference?
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Sep 1, 2012 6:24 PMby etresoft,poddan wrote:
Could this explain why they ditch RSS support? If true this is very scary.
It isn't true. The author says "RSS is one of the universal open standards which underpins the web". I can assure you that there is nothing universal or standard about RSS.
I posted early in this thread about a new RSS feeder I had just released. I tested it on all the feeds I could find and it worked great. Unfortunately, my taste in websites seems to be too tech-centric. After some people tried out my app, I discovered that there are more than just three major RSS feed format versions. There are literally an infinite number of them.
I can get feedback from users, try out those feeds, and issue an update in no time. That's exactly what I did. There is no way that Apple is going to issue an update to its flagship web browser just because Joe Blog's custom-coded RSS feed doesn't display in Safari.
At first I thought Apple was trying to push people to use its new notifications instead. After seeing some of these horriblly formatted real-world feeds people are publishing, now I think Apple just doesn't want to deal with it anymore.
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Sep 3, 2012 8:57 AMby ubernaut,while it may be true that different sites use different formats for rss i wouldnt say thats really apple's problem anymore different markup is. its the sites responsibilty to make something that works for it's users where it crosses into apple's area of interest is when the site is so popular that a decent chunk of its users are affected. besides didn't apple already remove the bug reporting button from safari a while ago anyway how would they even know? if apple had such a problem with rss (which alot of people subbing theis thread also seem to) why are they still using the technology for podcasts? i could also ask that question to those of you making the same arguement about nobody caring.
Removing RSS was a mistake and it has hurt many of apple's customers. i am assuming they actually did it in order to make safari faster but sacraficing functionality for speed is not a good idea. I could make my car go a whole lot faster and more fuel efficient by getting rid of everything but the drive train, the steering wheel and the seat but does that make it a goood idea?
personally i have managed to dodge this bullet so far by never upgrading to safari 6 or mountain lion. and in fact i will be putting off mountain lion as long as i can simply because of this lack of functionality. i think that the way that they "updated" safari without warning anyone they would lose RSS (a feature that previously distinguished safari from other browsers) was pretty unbelieveable. i have tried to warn as many people as i can about this glaring hole in the feature set.
Apple should really either restore the feature (at least as option if there is some kind of impact to speed) or open up safari enough that the full capabilty that a lot of us obviously can't live without at this point can be built into a plug in. And please don't link me to that "subscribe to RSS" plugin that for all it's good intentions, is about as great as non-alcoholic beer.
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Sep 3, 2012 5:22 PMby erebos,s4lex wrote:
erebos wrote:
It's kind of a dumb article. Facebook has never had RSS, that alone should have killed RSS if anything, it did not.
I wonder why some people keep coming back with posts like these?
Oh yeah, because Troll.
http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=212445198787494
http://www.staynalive.com/2011/05/twitter-and-facebook-both-quietly-kill.html
Before you lamely critique ("dumb!") Adam Turner's well thought out and written article, try doing a little research. If you are not familiar with this concept, your peers might refer to it as "googling".
Maybe this is all a bad dream and I'll wake up to find RSS back in Safari 6.1 and OS X 10.8.2, and the insanely great mind of Ive in command of Apple. The way things are headed, this company might need this knight in shining iArmor sooner rather than later.
1984 Corporate IBM, 2012 Cooked Apple... same difference?
I don't use Facebook so I wouldn't know abotu hidden RSS feeds.
What is everyone afraid of? Being spied on? Already happens. Your employer has legal right to do it. The government does. Companies follow you everywhere. It's over, privacy is dead. Think different inside of the new reality or perish. Nobody will protect you, protect yourself, organize, fight back, or b**ch like children, your choice..
