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  • 435. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    erebos Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    • No innovation - no excitement.

    I think they're scared to blow it honestly. I mean, they have a good thing going, they're like a fifth of the way to a trillion in pure cash.

     

    • Valid reasons for their products’ premium pricing is vanishing.

    Not really, you're just getting used to their products, now it's not a matter of convincing you to switch from inferior Windows PC's, they have to get you to upgrade over existing Apple technology that is still really good. So who do they cater to? You could say the same thing about Intel, they're sticking stubbornly to the evolutionary rather than revolutionary iterative model.

     

    • Dropping servers.

    You can't convince IT to pay more for your server with a TV spot showing how it looks pretty and has a slick OS. The fact that it's great to interact with means nothing in that environment. Having said that you're really arguing about a form factor, a computer is a computer, whether it's a mac-mini or blade server they do the same thing. I'll go even further though and say the traditional server rack's days are numbered.

     

    • Dropping power computing.

    Define "power computing". Again you're just arguing a formfactor. Is a laptop power computing in your view? How about the iMac? The era of the traditional desktop tower and monitor workstation is coming to an end.

     

    • Dropping enterprise support.

    I don't see this at all, I see them adding enterprise support.

     

    • Dropping Pro apps.

    What are you worried about? Final Cut? Motion? What else? They really don't make many pro apps, never have.

     

    • Kowtowing to the volatile teen social networks, and trying to pass it off as the “innovation” they are missing.

    Adding a side bar that lazily updates twitter and other social networks is something I could care less about given other thigns I'd like to see. However, I do understand that Twitter is way more than just a "volatile teen social network". There are myriad interactions on Twitter at all strata of society.

     

    Things change, while you're beating the bushes trying to rustle up a revolution you're lamenting the end of "servers" and "power computing", which is really just an argument over a form factor. Chill out, enjoy what we've got, namely great computers to use and get things done with.

  • 436. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    neil456 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    erebos wrote:

     

    • Dropping servers.

    You can't convince IT to pay more for your server with a TV spot showing how it looks pretty and has a slick OS. The fact that it's great to interact with means nothing in that environment. Having said that you're really arguing about a form factor, a computer is a computer, whether it's a mac-mini or blade server they do the same thing. I'll go even further though and say the traditional server rack's days are numbered.

     

     

    As a CTO in a top 500 Internet retailer I can tell you that this opinion is not reality.  There was a time when Apple software meant 'it just worked'.  There were versions of OS X that required less than half of the support cost of Windows.  So while the up front costs were a bit higher, the long term costs were lower than Windows and anyone that cared to run the actual numbers knew that.  Of course, now that they are forced to release too often (or before the bugs are worked out) for marketing, they have slipped right into the Windows (higher cost) dilemma and hence why they exited the server/pro market (plus it was not in their DNA to communicate in a professional manner.)

     

    The problem here is not what customers think, but what Apple thinks.  Apple thinks their future is controlled by spotty but feature appropriate software on cool hardware.  They are the ones that think that marketing will make it all right.  They are the ones that have forgotten that 'it just works' is not a marketing slogan. It takes time, focus, history, and money to make/keep that feature a reality. And it has to apply to everything.  The fact that Mail, iWork, Xcode, iLife, iCloud etc. all have significant issues is snow ball gathering in size every month.

     

    Apple is at a crossroads.  The symptoms are abvious to anyone outside of Apple that cares to look.  Apple does not stand for 'it just works' anymore.  The question is, do they know it or not?

  • 437. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    my gut feeling is that they do and that forestal's dismissal has something to do with that fact but we will all have to wait and see i suppose. either way i'd say we have a ways to go before we are dealing with anything like windows UX, thankfully.

  • 438. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    sjk Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)

    This Safari extension, with its icon badge displaying the new message count, works relatively well for me to monitor a few feeds previously handled using Safari's built-in functionality:

     

    Feeder - RSS Feed Reader

     

    As always, I use NetNewsWire for the majority of feeds.

  • 439. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    seen their app in the store (at least i think its the same outfit) but that does look neat. thanks for sharing the link!

  • 440. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    sjk Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)

    I originally thought it was the same developer as Feeder for OS X, but Rootof Creations is the extension developer and Reinvented Sofrware is the OS X app developer.

  • 441. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    sorry to maybe be asking a dumb question here but i havent upgraded to safari 6 yet this extension re-enabled safaris abilty to read the feeds or just a notifier? thanks!

  • 442. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    sjk Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)

    It only displays the message titles, e.g.:

    Screen Shot 2013-02-26 at 11.05.12.png

    A Chrome version came first and might have info that's applicable to the Safari version but I haven't looked.

  • 443. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    eh bettter then what it does now at least. thanks again for the link.

     

    speaking of terrible software whats with this forum? logs you out everytime you close the window it seems and never remembers your place after you do log in.

     

     

  • 444. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    N Turner Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    sjk wrote:

     

    This Safari extension, with its icon badge displaying the new message count, works relatively well for me to monitor a few feeds previously handled using Safari's built-in functionality:

     

    Feeder - RSS Feed Reader

     

    As always, I use NetNewsWire for the majority of feeds.

     

     

    That's good enough for me!

     

    Thanks for that. RSS Feeds NOW in Safari 6!

     

    Goodbye Firefox Live Bookmarks

  • 445. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    Scyanide Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)

    Just so everyone knows. I doubt Safari will ever get RSS support put back in without it being an extension. Google just announced that they are removing Google Reader. Even Google is seeing a decline in RSS usage.

     

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-second-spring-of-cleaning.html?m=1

  • 446. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    ubernaut Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    i saw that, madness. i guess it's sort of a power user thing i was thinking to make reader my rss replacement for Safari most of the rss readers are actually just clients of Reader now too.

     

    :/

  • 447. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (24,265 points)

    It's all part of my master plan. Buwahaahahahaha!!!!

  • 448. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    gortpara Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Now Google Reader is going away.  I don't know what I am going to do to replace the functionallity I had inside Safari when I had Snow Leapard. 

     

    My new iMac with ML that I bought to replace my SL iMac continues to dissappoint.

  • 449. Re: Where did RSS go in Safari 6???
    paul1@mac.com Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i think it's the advertising industry. i don't know. maybe facebook or twitter. they removed rss to push their own notification infrastructure.

    html 5 can somehow do notifications. but it's virtually non existant.

     

    i believe rss is so convenient and powerful that someone wants rss dead.

     

    i will never forgive apple for NOT COMMUNICATING THE REMOVAL AT ALL.

    treating their users as if they were too stupid to notice!

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