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Q: Why can't my Late-2010 MacBook Air 13" utilize Power Nap?

Why can't my Late-2010 MacBook Air, 13", 256GB SSD, utilize Power Nap?

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Posted on Jul 26, 2012 1:46 AM

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Q: Why can't my Late-2010 MacBook Air 13" utilize Power Nap?

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  • by jano.wid,

    jano.wid jano.wid Jul 26, 2012 9:32 AM in response to kallekenkel
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    Jul 26, 2012 9:32 AM in response to kallekenkel

    I do agree to all of your points, but, honestly speaking, I don't consider the functionality of power nap to be as great as advertised by Apple. I have a late 2010 MBA and, after having it in sleep mode for a while, as soon as I open it I can hear the sounds of incoming mail even before I'm done typing in my password. It's similar with notes, calendar and the rest of that iCloud stuff, as soon as I open one of those apps all new data is fetched within seconds.

     

    Even the ability of doing backups while asleep I don't consider that big an advantage. But then I don't even do them on a regular basis, just whenever I feel like it. But be honest, a backup while you have your notebook in your bag would be useful, but as long as it works only when your attach an external hard drive to it and it's to stand firmly on a desk, then where's the difference to just having your laptop standing around half-open? After all, all laptops have those nice battery saving features like shutting off light and even hard drives. 

     

    Dunno, just my opinion on the matter (:

  • by Doctor Air,

    Doctor Air Doctor Air Jul 26, 2012 9:35 AM in response to kallekenkel
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    Jul 26, 2012 9:35 AM in response to kallekenkel

    YES, a bummer. I've had this laptop for less than two years, and Apple is dropping support for key items of functionality in my system software upgrades already?!!! That does seem pretty outrageous for them to do, although, as you said, "not the first time Apple has artificially kept features from some users." I wonder what the REAL STORY is on this feature not working for an SSD Late-2010 MB Air, and why a firmware update couldn't support the Power Nap feature for us also?

    Perhaps we'll never know...

    Speaking of which, my Safari bookmarks are not synching properly either...

  • by kallekenkel,

    kallekenkel kallekenkel Jul 26, 2012 9:40 AM in response to jano.wid
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    Jul 26, 2012 9:40 AM in response to jano.wid

    I guess it's mainly the principle that bugs me. Apple is a company that I love and trust, but this thing is just a slap in the face. It's like they're saying: "Yeah, I know we told you you'd get that feature, but... nah." For no apparent reason.

     

    I'd actually enjoy power nap, as I have my laptop on my desk at night, and I would like it to back up to my Airport + attached HDD while I'm dreaming about the next iPhone Then, in the morning, I would not even need to open my laptop before, let's say, giong to the airport. When I arrive, everything's up to date without the need to connect.

     

    Granted, that's probably an edge case, but why not just give it to the users? What's the holdup? Except wanting to be a dick..

  • by jano.wid,

    jano.wid jano.wid Jul 26, 2012 10:16 AM in response to kallekenkel
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    Jul 26, 2012 10:16 AM in response to kallekenkel

    The principle behind it is called obsolescence.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolescence

     

    You find it everywhere in Western industries, not just with Apple. Although the company is a good example for how it works. I, for one, used to have one mobile phone for years. Same goes for computers and other kinds of gadgets.

     

    Today, a lot of companies, e.g. Apple, however has managed to establish a system where many customers feel the urge to replace their perfectly working machines with new ones for the sole reason that those are new. The same holds for cars, clothing, etc.

     

    And if there's someone like you, a customer who doesn't want to upgrade their device, then Apple gives you incentives to do it nonetheless by simply not giving you and your outdated laptop access to new features.

  • by jano.wid,

    jano.wid jano.wid Jul 26, 2012 10:23 AM in response to kallekenkel
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    Jul 26, 2012 10:23 AM in response to kallekenkel

    Dunno if you're interested in that kind of stuff but here's a video about planned obsolescence

     

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q

     

    I recommend that you take the time and watch it, it surely is interesting!

  • by kallekenkel,

    kallekenkel kallekenkel Jul 26, 2012 11:01 AM in response to jano.wid
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    Jul 26, 2012 11:01 AM in response to jano.wid

    Well I get planned obsolescensce, and I get that Apple is famous for it, but dont companies usually come up with a reason for it? I mean with Siri there's a cost to Apple, so I understand not everybody gets it. Any adapter change I get as well, Ethernet is too big for the Air.. Unreplaceable hard disk, RAM and battery? OK sure, as there's the benefit of having an incredibly lightweight, powerful device..  An old iPhone not being able to run the latest OS? Sure, as the processor isn't fast enough to run it.. But there is NO technical or economic reason whatsoever for not giving the two above mentioned features to <2011 MBs. Well, except for Apple trying to convince us to buy new hardware. But then again, who will buy a new laptop to get these two features?

     

    Certainly not me. Me, I'm just ******.

  • by 1011001,

    1011001 1011001 Jul 26, 2012 12:49 PM in response to Doctor Air
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    Jul 26, 2012 12:49 PM in response to Doctor Air
  • by kallekenkel,

    kallekenkel kallekenkel Jul 26, 2012 1:16 PM in response to 1011001
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    Jul 26, 2012 1:16 PM in response to 1011001

    Well hello there!!!

    Installed and the option is there! Now I just need to test if it actually backs up / receives at night..

  • by daz.evans,

    daz.evans daz.evans Jul 27, 2012 7:12 AM in response to Doctor Air
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    Jul 27, 2012 7:12 AM in response to Doctor Air

    Appartently someone has got powernap working on a 2010 model. see below

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1411893

     

    personally it's not that important - why would you want to make TimeMachine backups when it's sleeping? If you make a backup at night then how much changes happen during the night? as soon as you open your macbook in the morning all pending requests are downloaded instantly anyway - personally don't see the point.

     

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    Folks, it does work!


    To validate, I left my 2010 MBA asleep overnight, but plugged in to power connector.


    Upon unsleeping in the morning:

    • Mail was already updated with all my messages that came in overnight.
    • iMovie software update that I had not downloaded yesterday was downloaded (though not installed)
    • System console has lots of messages timestamped during the middle of the night, while it was asleep


    Looking at the console log, it appears to have woken itself up approx. every hour, done its thing, then gone back into full sleep a minute or two later:



     

    Code:

     

    ... 27/07/2012 03:53:55.000 kernel[0]: Wake reason: RTC (Alarm) 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: RTC: SleepService 2012/7/27 03:53:53, sleep 2012/7/27 02:53:56 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: AirPort_Brcm43xx::powerChange: System Wake - Full Wake/ Dark Wake / Maintenance wake 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: Previous Sleep Cause: 5 27/07/2012 04:53:53.337 hidd[54]: MultitouchHID: device bootloaded 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: wlEvent: en0 en0 Link DOWN virtIf = 0 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Down on en0. Reason 8 (Disassociated because station leaving). 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: en0::IO80211Interface::postMessage bssid changed 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: Graphics suppressed 162 ms 27/07/2012 04:53:53.000 kernel[0]: AppleUSBMultitouchDriver::checkStatus - received Status Packet, Payload 2: device was reinitialized 27/07/2012 04:53:54.083 configd[18]: network changed: v4(en0-:10.0.100.7) DNS- Proxy- SMB- 27/07/2012 04:53:55.000 kernel[0]: MacAuthEvent en0   Auth result for: 00:1f:f3:06:3f:f9  MAC AUTH succeeded 27/07/2012 04:53:55.000 kernel[0]: wlEvent: en0 en0 Link UP virtIf = 0 27/07/2012 04:53:55.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Up on en0 27/07/2012 04:53:55.000 kernel[0]: en0: BSSID changed to 00:1f:f3:06:3f:f9 27/07/2012 04:53:55.000 kernel[0]: en0::IO80211Interface::postMessage bssid changed 27/07/2012 04:53:56.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: RSN handshake complete on en0 27/07/2012 04:53:56.040 configd[18]: network changed: v4(en0+:10.0.100.7) DNS+ Proxy+ SMB+ 27/07/2012 04:54:04.057 netbiosd[45]: name servers down? 27/07/2012 04:55:30.000 kernel[0]: AirPort_Brcm43xx::powerChange: System Sleep 27/07/2012 04:55:30.000 kernel[0]: Wake reason: RTC (Alarm) 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: RTC: SleepService 2012/7/27 04:55:28, sleep 2012/7/27 03:55:31 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: AirPort_Brcm43xx::powerChange: System Wake - Full Wake/ Dark Wake / Maintenance wake 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: Previous Sleep Cause: 5 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: wlEvent: en0 en0 Link DOWN virtIf = 0 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Down on en0. Reason 8 (Disassociated because station leaving). 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: en0::IO80211Interface::postMessage bssid changed 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: Graphics suppressed 163 ms 27/07/2012 05:55:28.337 hidd[54]: MultitouchHID: device bootloaded 27/07/2012 05:55:28.000 kernel[0]: AppleUSBMultitouchDriver::checkStatus - received Status Packet, Payload 2: device was reinitialized 27/07/2012 05:55:29.086 configd[18]: network changed: v4(en0-:10.0.100.7) DNS- Proxy- SMB- 27/07/2012 05:55:30.000 kernel[0]: MacAuthEvent en0   Auth result for: 00:1f:f3:06:3f:f9  MAC AUTH succeeded 27/07/2012 05:55:30.000 kernel[0]: wlEvent: en0 en0 Link UP virtIf = 0 27/07/2012 05:55:30.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Up on en0 27/07/2012 05:55:30.000 kernel[0]: en0: BSSID changed to 00:1f:f3:06:3f:f9 27/07/2012 05:55:30.000 kernel[0]: en0::IO80211Interface::postMessage bssid changed 27/07/2012 05:55:31.000 kernel[0]: AirPort: RSN handshake complete on en0 27/07/2012 05:55:31.014 configd[18]: network changed: v4(en0+:10.0.100.7) DNS+ Proxy+ SMB+ 27/07/2012 05:55:31.037 UserEventAgent[11]: Captive: en0: Not probing 'MyNetwork' (protected network) 27/07/2012 05:55:31.042 configd[18]: network changed: v4(en0!:10.0.100.7) DNS Proxy SMB 27/07/2012 05:55:31.390 airportd[2044]: _doAutoJoin: Already associated to “MyNetwork”. Bailing on auto-join. 27/07/2012 05:55:37.030 netbiosd[45]: name servers down? 27/07/2012 05:57:36.000 kernel[0]: AirPort_Brcm43xx::powerChange: System Sleep 27/07/2012 06:57:34.000 kernel[0]: Wake reason: RTC (Alarm) ...
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