Q: Mountain Lion Server reject outgoing mail after upgrade

Hello Fred,

where is the configuration file really stored - or are talking about files? The root directory from my server looks like this:

macmini:/ admin$ ls -l

total 16037

drwxrwxr-x+ 39 root  admin     1326 Jul 29 13:08 Applications

drwxr-xr-x+  7 root  wheel      238 Feb  7 13:07 Groups

drwxr-xr-x+ 61 root  wheel     2074 Jul 29 11:53 Library

drwxr-xr-x@  2 root  wheel       68 Jun 20 21:16 Network

drwxr-xr-x   9 root  admin      306 Jul 29 11:51 Previous System

drwxr-xr-x   4 root  wheel      136 Nov  6  2011 Shared Items

drwxr-xr-x+  5 root  wheel      170 Jul 29 11:50 System

drwxr-xr-x+ 16 root  admin      544 Jul 29 11:46 Users

drwxrwxrwt@  5 root  admin      170 Jul 29 20:42 Volumes

drwxr-xr-x@ 39 root  wheel     1326 Jul 29 11:42 bin

drwxrwxr-t@  2 root  admin       68 Jun 20 21:16 cores

dr-xr-xr-x   3 root  wheel     4319 Jul 29 13:27 dev

lrwxr-xr-x@  1 root  wheel       11 Jul 29 11:33 etc -> private/etc

dr-xr-xr-x   2 root  wheel        1 Jul 29 13:28 home

-rw-r--r--@  1 root  wheel  8191712 Jun 25 08:00 mach_kernel

dr-xr-xr-x   2 root  wheel        1 Jul 29 13:28 net

drwxr-xr-x@  7 root  wheel      238 Jul 29 11:50 private

drwxr-xr-x@ 62 root  wheel     2108 Jul 29 11:43 sbin

lrwxr-xr-x@  1 root  wheel       11 Jul 29 11:34 tmp -> private/tmp

drwxr-xr-x@ 10 root  wheel      340 Jul 29 11:45 usr

lrwxr-xr-x@  1 root  wheel       11 Jul 29 11:34 var -> private/var

Then I have this:

macmini:/ admin$ ls -l /Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix/

total 928

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11942 Jul 29 11:43 LICENSE

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1629 Jul 29 11:43 TLS_LICENSE

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  20876 Jul 29 11:43 access

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8829 Jul 29 11:43 aliases

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8829 Jul 29 11:43 aliases.desktop

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   3548 Jul 29 11:43 bounce.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11681 Jul 29 11:43 canonical

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     44 Jul 29 11:43 custom_header_checks

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9904 Jul 29 11:43 generic

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  21535 Jul 29 11:43 header_checks

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  28837 Jul 29 21:09 main.cf

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  26856 Nov  6  2011 main.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  26856 Jul 29 12:19 main.cf.default.10.8

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  26970 Jul 29 11:43 main.cf.default~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  27430 Jul 29 11:43 main.cf~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1361 Jul 29 11:43 makedefs.out

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8617 Jul 29 21:02 master.cf

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7443 Jul 29 11:43 master.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7443 Jul 29 12:19 master.cf.default.10.8

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7443 Jul 29 11:43 master.cf~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18473 Jul 29 12:19 postfix-files

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18647 Nov  6  2011 postfix-files.prev

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18473 Jul 29 11:43 postfix-files~orig

-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel    128 Jul 29 12:19 rbl_whitelist

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  16384 Jul 29 12:19 rbl_whitelist.db

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   6816 Jul 29 11:43 relocated

-rw-------  1 root  wheel     70 Jul 29 14:43 submit.cred

-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel    178 Jul 29 12:21 system_user_maps

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  16384 Jul 29 13:06 system_user_maps.db

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12549 Jul 29 11:43 transport

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12494 Jul 29 11:43 virtual

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      0 Jul 29 12:21 virtual_domains

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  16384 Jul 29 12:21 virtual_domains.db

And I have that too:

macmini:/ admin$ ls -l /private/etc/postfix/

total 344

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11942 Jul 29 11:43 LICENSE

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1629 Jul 29 11:43 TLS_LICENSE

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  20876 Jul 29 11:43 access

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8829 Jul 29 11:43 aliases

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8829 Jul 29 11:43 aliases.desktop

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   3548 Jul 29 11:43 bounce.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11681 Jul 29 11:43 canonical

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     44 Jul 29 11:43 custom_header_checks

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9904 Jul 29 11:43 generic

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  21535 Jul 29 11:43 header_checks

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  28789 Jul 29 21:02 main.cf

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  26856 Nov  6  2011 main.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  26970 Jul 29 11:43 main.cf.default~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  27430 Jul 29 11:43 main.cf~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1361 Jul 29 11:43 makedefs.out

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8528 Jul 29 12:19 master.cf

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   8528 Mar  5 12:29 master.cf.10.7.4.orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7443 Jul 29 11:43 master.cf.default

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7443 Jul 29 11:43 master.cf~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18473 Jul 29 12:19 postfix-files

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18647 Nov  6  2011 postfix-files.prev

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18473 Jul 29 11:43 postfix-files~orig

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   6816 Jul 29 11:43 relocated

drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel     68 Jul 29 15:06 sasl

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12549 Jul 29 11:43 transport

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  12494 Jul 29 11:43 virtual

So - I have the same file in 2 different locations - and they look exactly the same (as far as I can tell).

You're talking about a path - what path?! What is it supposed to look like - I mean the path?! Can you provide little more detail on that, because I can't follow you at the moment.

Hi,

this didn't solve my issue

I took a look at TimeMachine and couldn't find this directory, nore a file with that name in the paths mentioned above, in the backups of 10.7.X.

I looked at:

/private/etc/postfix/

/Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix

So - what is my server missing?

Hi FlorianLeo,

IMHO your server does not miss anything ...

Please, look up the main.cf in /Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix and check where the for smtp_sasl_password_maps and virtual_alias_domains and virtual_alias_maps point to ...

it has to point to /Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix

reload postfix and try again, this has solved my problem ...

Hello mopedpan,

the main.cf on the server only contains the virtual_alias_maps and it reads like this:

virtual_alias_maps = $virtual_maps

What does $virtual_maps mean?

Shell I add the first 2 variables (since they are not there) you mentioned to main.cf?

I figured it out

https://discussions.apple.com/message/19093169#19093169

Hey guys! I am having this same issue - my emails won't send after the upgrade to 10.8, and are getting deleted at the same time. But I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the computer jargon used in this thread! Is there a fix to this problem that an relatively illiterate IT person like me could follow?

Hey Chickenpellet

trust me - I have as much knowledge of postfix (peace of software that does email on your server) as you have - you have read through a lot of material and spend a lot of thinking, comparing, reading through all kinds of materials again - then again thinking....

Take this URL for example:

http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html

The Logs (use programm Console and use filter in the right top corner: postfix) showed that postfix had an issue with usernames, specifically with aliases - yeah - where is the mentioned, complained about, "aliases.db"?! It's just not in the directories flying around in postings these days. The directories I figured out are:

• /private/etc/postfix
• /Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix

where the latter is the "one and only" to be used with 10.8 - as I was told.

The same ist true with the cli-programm newaliases - it didn't help at all in my case. The URL above showed me a "new" command "postaliases" followed by the path, which turns out to be:

/Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix/aliases - so the whole command is:

postaliases /Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix/aliases

Resumé:

I gues you have to dig into - like everybody else did.

Sorry

Hi FlorianLeo,

Thanks heaps for your reply -

I got as far as typing 'postfix' into the filter in Console - and it didn't come up with anything.

Anyway, I think this is a bit too complicated for me haha.

Thanks again for trying!

-chickenpellet

Hello Chickenpellet,

I ment opening the console.app, make shure that in the navigation-bar left-hand-side the entry at the very top is highlighted. It should sound like "all messages" or so. Only then got to the top right, the filter box, and type postfix.

If your postfix has a problem it will be reporting and you'll see the output.

I had the same problem. I resolved by altering the following line in main.cf

virtual_alias_maps = $virtual_maps hash:/Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix/virtual_users

to

virtual_alias_maps = $virtual_maps hash:/Library/Server/Mail/Config/postfix/virtual_domains

The file virtual_users does not exist in either the old or new postfix directories. However, what a mess: there are numerous references to old and new directories in the configuration files. Looks like it's all been done in rather a hurry.

The thing with the hurry - I have the very same feeling about it. I am not an Postfix-Pro - I am not even a beginner - but I think I should delve into it, the sooner the better.

Is it coinsidence that ever since Stevens Dead I see more and more sloppyness arising?

I have Snow Leo on my Macbooks (fantastic), I got a Lion Macmini-Server (terrible - I've been through **** with it). Since the experience with Lion I will beware to upgrade the SnowLeos to Lion - the same is true with Mountain Lion. I will not upgrade the Macbooks. Not only is there too much Software, I have to rely on, installed, but I have absolutely no interest in fixing things. One of Stevens most famous sentence: "We do not ship junk!" Well people - this is something you should post-it to your screens again, and live by it.

Hi florianleo,

You have taken the words right Out of my mouth!!