Messages and issues with Google Talk

Hi,

It sounds like You already have Talk enabled on your Google Account.

On the Google Page does your ID end @googlemail.com or @gmail.com ?

Which of these did you use in iChat ?

It seems that in earlier version of Mail you could use either and google would allow you to Fetch the mail

In iChat and Now Messages it seems the Googletalk server is more strict.

If you have added an Account with the "wrong" suffix delete it and re-add account with the "right" suffix.

It is approaching the Opening Ceremony and I may not pick up on replies for a while

8:36 PM Friday; July 27, 2012

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HI,

I do know that at one time non Google mail account could also be made to work in iChat.

It tended to be with Google account that ended google.com (This was the server name as well like regular Jabber IDs)

These used port 443 as well.

This has been stopped and only Google mail accounts can have "Talk" enable AND work on external Clients.

I remember that I was convinced I 'knew' my email ID without looking it up as I had it set up in Mail as a POP account.

I had issues when I switched it to using IMAP and had to look it up and found I have the other type to the version I had in Mail.

Due to this I did actually try both ways in iChat which is why I know it does not work.

I am not familiar with a GAPPS account.

The other things I would try in Messages or iChat is to tick the "Automatically find Server and Port" and see it that gets a Login.

9:48 PM Saturday; July 28, 2012

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uncheck SSL.

Interesting.

Never found that to work on a Google Account.

10:45 PM Saturday; July 28, 2012

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it was either Gtalk (Jabber) or AIM that this was the work around for this exact issue for me back in iChat days.

Hi TheSmokeMonster,

Yep it will work for AIM.

Jabber Account are either one or the other and rarely have a server entry point on the other port.

GoogleTalk (or talk.google.com) does allow a port 443 login but still insists on SSL

AIM have two servers and the SSL one can be a bit more Unstable that than the plain entry (non SSL) one.

AS iChat needed a manual reset of the SSL to get logged back in it was more noticible when the connection was dropped.

(you had to "Disable" the account then re"Enable" the account to make it do so)

I have long advised that people should use the NON SSL login in AIM Logins.

I must admit since iChat 6 went to the api.oscar.aol.com server things have improved.

Obviously Messages (and Beta) uses the same AIM servers.

9:46 PM Sunday; July 29, 2012

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Thanks for the points.

I will wait to hear more.

I suspect the use of Proxies at (your) work (iChat has never done well with Proxies and I suspect Messages will follow)

9:53 PM Sunday; July 29, 2012

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Thanks, this solved my problem!

ssl?

yes

Hi,

In A Google Account ?

Was it Off ?

9:53 PM Monday; July 30, 2012

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Hi Ralph

On Messages' preferences, on the Account tab, when the applicable google account is selected, there is a Security Settings button.

It has:

Server: [talk.google.com]

Port: [xxxxx] [] Use SSL (which as ticked)

I unticked it, as suggested by TheSmokeMonster, and it worked for me.

Enjoy the Olympics there in the UK!

Hi,

If I go to Server Settings, after logging the account out of the server, (So I can change things) and use NO SSL and port 5222 and then log back in again I get this.

Uploaded with Skitch!

It's an Alert from the Keychain

If I "Continue " I get this...

Uploaded with Skitch!

Which is an Alert from Messages itself.

However at this point the Google Talk Account will login.

This is different from the last time I checked in iChat 5

8:04 PM Tuesday; July 31, 2012

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