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Q: Mountain Lion UI Lag on rMBP !!! (Let's Make this thread serious and hope for a fix)

I personally think the UI lagging bug is a serious issue on rMBP because this machine cost $2000 and up and it lags on UI features such as Mission Control and Space Switching while classic Macbook pros don't. I do understand that the retina display models carries a high resolution display, but I think the quad core CPU should have the ability to handle it (please correct me if I am wrong)

 

 

I am hoping and asking anyone experiencing the issue to follow up with this thread and post your concerns. Let's hope for a fix soon and we can really enjoy the beauty a Retina Macbook Pro brings to us.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion

Posted on Jul 27, 2012 7:26 PM

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Q: Mountain Lion UI Lag on rMBP !!! (Let's Make this thread serious and hope for a fix)

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  • by benterz222,

    benterz222 benterz222 May 10, 2013 6:22 AM in response to roberto_sc
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    May 10, 2013 6:22 AM in response to roberto_sc

    Made no difference to me.

     

    I opened Quartz Debug, went to Window -> UI Resolution and unticked the 'Enable HiDPI'. It then prompted me to logout, which I did, and then when I log back in again, it's already ticked...

     

    Any ideas?

  • by yuri_my,

    yuri_my yuri_my May 10, 2013 10:37 AM in response to roberto_sc
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    May 10, 2013 10:37 AM in response to roberto_sc

    OK, went to the Apple Store today and now becasue of some slight display issues I was offered a THIRD replacement (I replaced the first one in hope of smooth UI). The Genius technician agreed that Mountain Lion is pretty buggy and we should wait for the summer update.

     

    Is that how things work at Apple these days? Really thinking about returning it now and waiting till the next OS X. If that doesn't work, then the old non-retina will do.

  • by Wayne Chin,

    Wayne Chin Wayne Chin May 10, 2013 10:46 AM in response to yuri_my
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    May 10, 2013 10:46 AM in response to yuri_my

    Wow, is THAT what the Apple Genius told you? "...Mountain Lion is pretty buggy.." I never heard that from any Apple technician or advisor. From what I understand Apple is pretty strict on their own personal opinions of products. In fact, they're not even supposed to correct a customer if a product name was pronounced incorrectly.

     

    Anyhow, after reading these past several posts today, I feel we are getting nowhere. The senior advisor has hung me out to dry, I was disallowed to have a third unit replacement, until I can prove to them that there is something really wrong with my machine.

     

    In the meantime, as I have stated earlier, I've disabled Dashboard, Mission Control AND Time Machine local backups...that all seems to improve overall performance, but it's far from improving the lag. I can't reiterate any more, everytime I run Quartz Debug the computer runs fine for a little while, then goes all **** when you run Safari and watch like YouTube or something. SMC reset works too, until you start Calendar and try to skim through hundreds of appointments.

     

    The story is too familiar, people. We either hope that the next OS will fix this, or we just sit and grovel with a $3000 machine. Plain and simple.

  • by yuri_my,

    yuri_my yuri_my May 10, 2013 11:41 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    May 10, 2013 11:41 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    Yes he did. Maybe he didn't use the word "pretty", but he did say it is buggy - even on his computer. I know I care a lot about tiny things but I can't uderstand how anybody can tolerate something like this on a machine with this price tag and tech specs. Personally speaking, it distracts me from the actual work and we can't talk about joy of using the computer. It feels like the computer has a great potential, but I cannot fully use it. And that's just sad. I am going to return mine and perhaps get it later.

  • by poidet,

    poidet poidet May 11, 2013 4:53 AM in response to roberto_sc
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    May 11, 2013 4:53 AM in response to roberto_sc

    Hi, roberto_sc.

     

    Please be so kind and share with video (make it with help phone or camera) how your Mac is working when you select many emails in Mail.app or list months in calendar etc ... show us please.

     

    Tell us when your mac as build ? you can get it from your serial number. etc ...

     

    Thanks.

  • by sharky114,

    sharky114 sharky114 May 11, 2013 2:29 PM in response to poidet
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    May 11, 2013 2:29 PM in response to poidet

    Ok guys this is what I did;

     

    After more than 7 months I changed my Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch: 2.6 ghz 16 gig, 512gb ram for:

     

    - Macbook Air i7 256gb SSD, 8 gig ram

    - Ipad 4 16 gb

    - Logitech ultrathin keyboard

    - Timecapsule 2 TB

    - Apple TV

    - WD elements external HDD 1 TB

    - Carcharging cable for iphone 5

     

    I should have done this WAY earlier!! The Macbook Air is a blast! Much faster experience as my 'old' beloved Retina. Retina came out too early if you ask me.  Good luck everyone! I hope a update will come eventually for you all!

  • by Wayne Chin,

    Wayne Chin Wayne Chin May 11, 2013 11:50 PM in response to sharky114
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    May 11, 2013 11:50 PM in response to sharky114

    For weeks I've contemplated on selling my rMBP as well. After seeing how MacRumor sites have knocked more than $500 off the retail price of a Retina Mac, I'm guessing Apple is trying to get rid of the first generation MacBooks and sweep this problem under the rugs...AGAIN!

     

    I'm wondering how well the i7 MacBook Air will run Photoshop CS6...considering I will be saving a substantial amount of money. BTW Sharky, do you mind telling us how much you sold your MacBook Pro Retina for?

  • by sharky114,

    sharky114 sharky114 May 12, 2013 2:37 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    May 12, 2013 2:37 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    Hi Wayne and the rest,

     

    I just went to the Apple store and started arguing about this faulty machine. Mine had pixelproblems (Samsung screen) and a lot lag as all the other rMBPs in the store. I am an orthopedic surgeon and bought the rMBP for managing intense 3D graphics in trauma cases. It didn't work out as I had hoped while changing screens sometimes even locked up the machine.

     

    The rMBP was sent for repair first. When it returned only the screen was replaced. Nothing done at the lag of course.

    After a long discussion with the employee agreed with me; the rMBP line is just a gimmick and an underwhelming experience. They took it back for the full retail price and I couldn't be happier!

     

    I don't use Photoshop CS6, but the 3D graphics software at the hospital is so much faster than the rMBP. I think you will see similar results with CS6.

     

    Good luck guys!

  • by ammiraglio,

    ammiraglio ammiraglio May 12, 2013 4:48 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    May 12, 2013 4:48 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    I can't belive it. Someone is selling his rMBP because scrolling iCal pages is just smooth, not butter smooth. Ridicolous.

  • by ptit_filou,

    ptit_filou ptit_filou May 12, 2013 5:16 AM in response to ammiraglio
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    May 12, 2013 5:16 AM in response to ammiraglio

    If it were only because of scrolling in iCal pages...

  • by Wayne Chin,

    Wayne Chin Wayne Chin May 12, 2013 11:47 PM in response to ammiraglio
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    May 12, 2013 11:47 PM in response to ammiraglio

    You try running every app in the book, from Safari, to iPhoto, to Photoshop, and yes, iCal. Why do I want to spend $3000 on a laptop that performs slower than a $900 Macbook Air???

     

    @Sharky - So Apple was able to exchange your rMBP for all the stuff you listed? Mine is built to order, so I don't think they're gonna do that for me

  • by roberto_sc,

    roberto_sc roberto_sc May 13, 2013 6:00 AM in response to poidet
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    May 13, 2013 6:00 AM in response to poidet

    Hi poidet

     

    I don't use Calendar nor Mail.app. My lag problem is scrolling with safari. It get's impossible to use facebook or gmail: scrolling is too laggy and typing in gmail is so lagged that one can type faster than the characters appear in screen.

     

    The lag got back yesterday and I did the trick now and it's gone again. I'm sure it will come back some day, though.

     

    Maybe it's not the trick, but just the action of logging out. I need to test more.

  • by roberto_sc,

    roberto_sc roberto_sc May 13, 2013 6:12 AM in response to roberto_sc
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    May 13, 2013 6:12 AM in response to roberto_sc

    by the way, this is my mac:

     

    Model:- MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012)
    Codename:- No codename assigned.
    Build Country:- This unit was built in China
    Build Year:- This unit was built in the second half of 2012.
    Build Week- Week 11 (March) or week 38 (September)
    Production Nr.:- This unit was number 1241 to be built that week.
  • by Jasper1981,

    Jasper1981 Jasper1981 May 13, 2013 7:47 AM in response to dsciel
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    May 13, 2013 7:47 AM in response to dsciel

    I own a Macbook Pro Retina i7 16GB early 2013 and a Macbook Air i5 4GB late 2012

     

    The Air runs buttersmooth ofcourse and the Retina extreme laggy, choppy especialy when scaling windows or scrolling in finder windows. With really heavy apps like Photoshop, After Effects its even worse and almost unusable.

     

    I have tried about everything on the forums with no succes,

     

    - Patched SMC latest version

    - Quartz Debug
    - SMC Reset
    - PRAM Reset
    - Cleaned multiple caches
    - Cleaned log files
    - Forced Nvidia card
    - Total reinstall 1.8.3

     

    If i missed a possible solution your welcome to tell me

     

    I hope Apple will work on a patch fix for this, In my opinion the hardware should be more then sufficient to handle the UI animations. I like to play some games and here the macbook does not disapoint me even in Retina resolution i can play Starcraft on half high and medium settings. Sounds to me like a case of bad UI/Video driver programming.

  • by poidet,

    poidet poidet May 13, 2013 11:13 PM in response to roberto_sc
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    May 13, 2013 11:13 PM in response to roberto_sc

    btw, roberto_sc, try to remove completely Flash from you Mac, will you see improvements in Safari ?

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