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Q: Mountain Lion UI Lag on rMBP !!! (Let's Make this thread serious and hope for a fix)

I personally think the UI lagging bug is a serious issue on rMBP because this machine cost $2000 and up and it lags on UI features such as Mission Control and Space Switching while classic Macbook pros don't. I do understand that the retina display models carries a high resolution display, but I think the quad core CPU should have the ability to handle it (please correct me if I am wrong)

 

 

I am hoping and asking anyone experiencing the issue to follow up with this thread and post your concerns. Let's hope for a fix soon and we can really enjoy the beauty a Retina Macbook Pro brings to us.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion

Posted on Jul 27, 2012 7:26 PM

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Q: Mountain Lion UI Lag on rMBP !!! (Let's Make this thread serious and hope for a fix)

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  • by Wayne Chin,

    Wayne Chin Wayne Chin Mar 30, 2013 1:16 PM in response to dsciel
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    Mar 30, 2013 1:16 PM in response to dsciel

    As mentioned before, and I am currently working with Apple engineers with this matter, applications written with universal binaries have a faster refresh rate than native 64-bit apps. Here is my video demonstrating this.

     

    http://youtu.be/b8HeGK-qpfU

  • by clausbo,

    clausbo clausbo Mar 31, 2013 1:08 AM in response to dsciel
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    Mar 31, 2013 1:08 AM in response to dsciel

    Try make the same Safari test where there are more images in the Safari window (like in the youtube page). I get as low at 10 fps if I do the window resize...

  • by DonQuijote12321,

    DonQuijote12321 DonQuijote12321 Mar 31, 2013 9:18 AM in response to dsciel
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    Mar 31, 2013 9:18 AM in response to dsciel

    So in preferences I ticked off the "group windows by application" option and all lag whatsoever from mission control has gone for me.

     

    I tried running a FHD 1080p video on VLC while keeping this window open in Safari and Pages and the App Store and a finder window running in the background and then I swiped up and boom. No stutering at all.

     

    Then I turned on the Battlefield 4 trailer on youtube and kept everything the same as before and I noticed some lag. Then I kept only the BF4 trailer on and minimized everything else and still the same lag.

     

    I am assuming flash videos have something to do with the stutter? Also, scrolling up and down in the App Store lags like **** for me. Is this normal?

  • by ESiq,

    ESiq ESiq Mar 31, 2013 9:26 AM in response to DonQuijote12321
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    Mar 31, 2013 9:26 AM in response to DonQuijote12321

    The App Store makes me want to carve my eyes out, yes. And Mail.app is also fairly horrible.

  • by roberto_sc,

    roberto_sc roberto_sc Apr 2, 2013 9:26 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    Apr 2, 2013 9:26 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    Hello Wayne. That looks promising! What did the engineers say about this?

  • by poidet,

    poidet poidet Apr 7, 2013 4:17 AM in response to roberto_sc
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    Apr 7, 2013 4:17 AM in response to roberto_sc

    I would like to share my experience. In that video you will see particular website with very non usual navigation system, and how different it looks like on HiDPI and usual DPI modes.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szO34VPW4-U

     

    take a look please.

  • by cybeross,

    cybeross cybeross Apr 7, 2013 8:29 AM in response to DonQuijote12321
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    Apr 7, 2013 8:29 AM in response to DonQuijote12321

    I'd like to share that Quartz Debug does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever -- Mission Control lags horribly, it can take even a whole second or two before it starts to move with several windows open, or pro apps running (like Logic Pro 9).  Scrolling in both Mail and Safari is terrible, and deselecting "group windows" in Mission Control does not help.  I am almost used to this experience now, until I pick up an iPad, and am absolutely baffled how a tiny iPad can perform SO much smoother than my top of the line computer.  Just thought I'd share that none of the suggested solutions have worked at all so far...

  • by ESiq,

    ESiq ESiq Apr 7, 2013 9:49 AM in response to dsciel
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    Apr 7, 2013 9:49 AM in response to dsciel

    It is horrible for me too now that I've starting really using the computer again. Did a lot of reboots around the time of the patch. Now it routinely can take up to 1 second for mission control to activate, and I will only get about two frames for the whole animation. Facebook is unusable in Safari, and Mail is horrible.    

  • by Geneous,

    Geneous Geneous Apr 7, 2013 9:43 PM in response to ESiq
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    Apr 7, 2013 9:43 PM in response to ESiq

    I have the same experience as you. Also, the performance is much much worse with discrete than it is with the integrated. My thought on that is that the integrated was much optimized as it served the dual purpose of being optimized for the 13 inch retina (which only has integrated intel video) and for the 15 retina.

     

    i got so fed up with it that i just purchased a 15 inch classic macbook pro antiglare on ebay and am eagerly awaiting my replacement machine. yes, its heavier. yes, the display quality will be worse and lower resolution. and yes, it wont have two thunderbolt ports and an hdmi port. however, perhaps i will be able to use it without the stuttering and visual delays bugging the crap out of me.

     

    --fed up

  • by Deniz21,

    Deniz21 Deniz21 Apr 8, 2013 8:48 AM in response to dsciel
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    Apr 8, 2013 8:48 AM in response to dsciel

    Hello

     

    I have a Early 2013 rmbp 15 all Updates

     

    I noticed Some lag in Safari or in Dock

    But Nothing too serious i can live with that

     

    But i startet my macbook in safemode today

     

    And in Safe mode i have realy Bad lag and Grafik issues

    While in Safari or in the Dock Artefakts horizontal Lines etc

     

     

    Is This normal?? In Safe mode??

     

    In normal mode i Cant See any Big issues

    Only Safe mode

     

     

    Any advice what to do?

     

    Thanks

  • by Wayne Chin,

    Wayne Chin Wayne Chin Apr 13, 2013 1:38 AM in response to dsciel
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    Apr 13, 2013 1:38 AM in response to dsciel

    Another rant here....I just picked up a used MacBook Pro 13" A1278, 2011 model, with 8GB of ram, 2.3Ghz i5 dual core really cheap off Craigslist. Playing with it side-by-side with my MacBook Pro Retina, I can truly say apps scroll better on the 13", iPhoto, Mail, Safari, Mission Control, all the iApps scream on the 13" MBP...no lego blocks, no jittered lagging scrolls. Only Photoshop and GPU intensive apps like Warcraft and League of Legends run better on the Retina, but the arguement is still the same. I paid $3000 to expect blazing fast performance. It's been 6 months of rage....when will this problem be fixed??

  • by Kanad,

    Kanad Kanad Apr 13, 2013 8:43 AM in response to elmath
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    Apr 13, 2013 8:43 AM in response to elmath

    Amazing. This works !! Great. Thanks

  • by CT,

    CT CT Apr 13, 2013 8:46 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    Apr 13, 2013 8:46 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    Can't confirm.

  • by cbs20,

    cbs20 cbs20 Apr 13, 2013 9:14 AM in response to Wayne Chin
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    Apr 13, 2013 9:14 AM in response to Wayne Chin

    I have that same computer and am disgusted at how much smoother the UI is on my early 2011 13 inch compared to the 15inch retina.

  • by clausbo,

    clausbo clausbo Apr 14, 2013 10:37 AM in response to dsciel
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    Apr 14, 2013 10:37 AM in response to dsciel

    Expirence one thing today. Sometimes I need to check my web work on an IE browser, so I'm using VirtualBox for a Win7 window. When I run the Win7 on the retina display I have a very anoing mouse delay - actually it's sometimes very hard to "hit" the right buttons in Win7 due to the 2-3 sec. of mouse delay (sometines even more).

     

    Well today I added an external display, and moved the Win7 window to that screen - and guess what - it now runs as it's supposed to do.

     

    Then I set the retina display to the native resolution (2880x1800 using the SwitchResX utility) and had the Win7 window on it. And then it was running perfect - the same way as on the external display (however so small that it was hard to read :-))

     

    I also expirence a better scrolling expirence on the external Display that on the retina display.

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