My MacBook Air is boiling within 3 minutes of run

Hi,

I bought my MacBook Air around end of 2010.

And recently I started experiencing overheating within 10 minutes of run by using common softwares and web browsing.

Actually sometimes I've Chrome or Firefox with over 200 tabs (with flash blocker) or compiling something in the meantime, but this is how I using a Mac in a standard way (I'm a software developer).

Now I've change my place from UK to the Switzerland, where is much hotter (30 degress), but I don't this is the case.

In following screenshot you can see the temperature from Temperature Monitor at 18.43.56 (I just turn it on and run ) and 3 minutes later at 18.46.31.

The only process was installing some software which includes some compiling, but even that it should be not so critical (90 degrees for CPU?).

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P.S. I know how to use Activity Monitor and Terminal to kill the processes which I don't use, so I monitor it constantly.


I started to use ice bag (from the freezer), which helps until I'll decide to some cooling pad, but I never need that.

So my question is, what's wrong?

I was reading about SMC reset here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

but I don't believe it'll help.

I've experienced yesterday two OSX crashes, at least one per week is a standard, I think it's because of overheating.


Here is another stats from my previous session (it's normal?):

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before desparately I decided to put my laptop to the fridge after the OSX crash, so I could work afterwards for the next half an hour (I know that's the bad approach, sorry).


I read already thousands of similar problem on the internet, so I assuming I'm not only the one.

Thanks for any advises.


Environment:

My kernel:

Darwin kenorbs-MacBook-Air.local 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

I've started using ceramic kitchen table for my table, it kind of works only when I don't do nothing on my laptop, so not really helps.


Summary:

Any ideas apart of reinstalling everything from scratch? It's time to buy a new MacBook?

Is there any advanced software or command that will give more information about the following problems?

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Jul 28, 2012 10:32 AM

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Jul 30, 2012 10:18 AM in response to kenorb

I discovered the problem today. I have a microsoft / mac program which syncs outlook to various sources. This program was corrupted when Mountain Lion was installed. As a consequence, the program was compounding its use of the airbook's memory - some 2GB of memory used in less than 5 minutes.


Once the program, called sync services agents was repaired, the problem went away.


I hope this information is helpful to someone.

Aug 1, 2012 3:20 PM in response to Denico

Now it's not so extremely hot, but it's very slow, almost as Pentium 200. Even now I'm typing this post, sometimes I've to wait 0,5-1sec to see the letters appearing. When I was opening this page, I've seen some widgets were rendering. Some of the pages loading endless. When typing some commands, I've to wait few seconds until they'll terminate using Control-C. When I change the application using CMD-Tab, I've to wait 1-2 seconds untill I could use it, it appears, mouse moving, but I can't click anything (probably swap). When I'm scrolling, it's freezing every few seconds. My load average is around 2-3. Basically I can't work on my laptop anymore. I've it on cold flat surface with power supply connected. Every day or few days I'm sending to you crashes.

My system is up-to-date. I don't want Lion for now, until my laptop will work, I heard it's even slower and worse (as even the post above as example).


Here are some Terminal logs:

new-host-2:~ kenorb$ sudo dmesg | tail

EIR is supported.

SSP is supported.

en0: 802.11d country code set to 'FR'.

en0: Supported channels 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 100 104 108 112 116 120 124 128 132 136 140

Auth result for: c0:3f:0e:51:ef:c0 No Ack

Auth result for: c0:3f:0e:51:ef:c0 MAC AUTH succeeded

AirPort: Link Up on en0

AirPort: RSN handshake complete on en0

BetterTouchTool (map: 0x8805000) triggered DYLD shared region unnest for map: 0x8805000, region 0x7fff88000000->0x7fff88200000. While not abnormal for debuggers, this increases system memory footprint until the target exits.

Warning: audit space low (< 5% free)on audit log file-system

new-host-2:~ kenorb$ uname -a

Darwin kenorbs-MacBook-Air.local 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386


When running iotop, it's showing me lots of error:

dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 5 (ID 19517: io:mach_kernel:buf_strategy:start): illegal operation in action #3 at DIF offset 0

dtrace: error on enabled probe ID 5 (ID 19517: io:mach_kernel:buf_strategy:start): illegal operation in action #3 at DIF offset 0


Maybe because it's not optimized for Mac;p


new-host-2:~ kenorb$ sudo tail /var/log/secure.log

Aug 1 20:36:13 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5520]: audit warning: soft /var/audit

Aug 1 20:36:13 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5519]: audit warning: allsoft

Aug 1 20:36:13 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5522]: audit warning: closefile /var/audit/20120801000912.20120801183613

Aug 1 21:40:00 kenorbs-MacBook-Air loginwindow[41]: in pam_sm_authenticate(): Failed to determine Kerberos principal name.

Aug 1 21:40:00 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5777]: audit warning: soft /var/audit

Aug 1 21:40:00 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5778]: audit warning: allsoft

Aug 1 21:40:00 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[5779]: audit warning: closefile /var/audit/20120801183613.20120801194000

Aug 1 23:45:07 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[15967]: audit warning: soft /var/audit

Aug 1 23:45:07 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[15969]: audit warning: allsoft

Aug 1 23:45:07 kenorbs-MacBook-Air nobody[15968]: audit warning: closefile /var/audit/20120801194000.20120801214507


new-host-2:~ kenorb$ sudo tail /var/log/system.log

Aug 1 23:53:35 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.cleverfiles.cfbackd[16137]: partition offset c805000

Aug 1 23:53:35 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1] (com.cleverfiles.cfbackd[16137]): Job appears to have crashed: Floating point exception

Aug 1 23:53:35 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1] (com.cleverfiles.cfbackd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds

Aug 1 23:53:35 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[16122]: 2012-08-01 23:53:35.601 ReportCrash[16122:3d2f] Saved crash report for cfbackd[16137] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cfbackd_2012-08-01-235335_localhost.crash

Aug 1 23:53:45 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.cleverfiles.cfbackd[16138]: partition offset c805000

Aug 1 23:53:45 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1] (com.cleverfiles.cfbackd[16138]): Job appears to have crashed: Floating point exception

Aug 1 23:53:45 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.launchd[1] (com.cleverfiles.cfbackd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds

Aug 1 23:53:45 kenorbs-MacBook-Air com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[16122]: 2012-08-01 23:53:45.751 ReportCrash[16122:402b] Saved crash report for cfbackd[16138] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cfbackd_2012-08-01-235345_localhost.crash

Aug 1 23:53:46 kenorbs-MacBook-Air sudo[16139]: kenorb : TTY=ttys000 ; PWD=/Users/kenorb ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/tail /var/log/system.log

Aug 1 23:53:50 kenorbs-MacBook-Air sudo[16140]: kenorb : TTY=ttys000 ; PWD=/Users/kenorb ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/tail /var/log/system.log


I've more than 1000 files of different kind of local apps crashes and 73 OSX crashes:

new-host-2:Logs kenorb$ find . | less

new-host-2:Logs kenorb$ pwd

/Users/kenorb/Library/Logs

new-host-2:Logs kenorb$ find . -name \*crash\* | wc -l

1168

new-host-2:CrashReporter kenorb$ pwd

/Library/Logs/CrashReporter

new-host-2:CrashReporter kenorb$ find . | wc -l

73

new-host-2:CrashReporter kenorb$ find . | xargs

. ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233811_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233821_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233831_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233841_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233851_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233901_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233911_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233922_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233932_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233942_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-233952_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234002_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234012_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234022_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234032_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234042_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234053_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234103_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234113_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-07-24-234123_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220455_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220505_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220515_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220525_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220536_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220546_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220556_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220606_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220616_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220627_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220637_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220647_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220657_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220708_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220718_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220728_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220738_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-01-220749_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000321_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000331_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000341_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000351_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000401_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000412_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000422_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000432_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000442_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000452_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000503_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000513_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000523_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000533_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000543_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000554_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000604_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000614_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000624_localhost.crash ./cfbackd_2012-08-02-000634_localhost.crash ./fc-cache_2012-07-28-130739-1_localhost.crash ./fc-cache_2012-07-28-130739_localhost.crash ./gconftool-2_2012-07-28-143228-1_localhost.crash ./gconftool-2_2012-07-28-143228_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-180410_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-180417_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-180512_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-180524_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-234257_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-234302_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-234309_localhost.crash ./mdworker_2012-07-29-234315_localhost.crash ./xprobe_3dnow_2012-07-29-032200_localhost.crash ./xprobe_gas_x8632_2012-07-29-032158_localhost.crash


I've 3 kernel panic crashes:

new-host-2:Logs kenorb$ find . -name \*panic\*

./DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-07-28-002413_kenorbs-MacBook-Air.panic

./DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-07-29-233515_kenorbs-MacBook-Air.panic

./DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2012-07-31-225733_kenorbs-MacBook-Air.panic

Like I said, it crashes every day, I could have more, but probably are removed, I don't know why.


Here are some few screenshots:


Activity Monitor:

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top:

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iotop:

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Aug 1, 2012 3:47 PM in response to Denico

The forst think is fan, constainly running and the endless sloweness.

BTW. I lost a lot of typing when I was trying to improve my post, after 10 minutes I've got the error from the site that I'm no longer allowed to edit my own post, so I lost everything. Great.


Here are kernel crashes, at least 3, the rest are removed it-self:

http://pastebin.com/p2GBBYkB


Second issue, but off-topic (not priority), I've used to it, that my Mac is eating a lot of space in the fast time for probably swapping. What's here funny, I've 4GB of RAM and when that happens I still have more than 1GB of free non-used memory, crazy heh? It's like I've 2GB HDD space, then after 5 minutes 0bytes of space and my browser doesn't work. I'm removing everything what I can and trash it, nothing works, after 5 minutes it keeps freeing the space, 200MB, 500MB, 2GB. It's just crazy. I'm sure that this is no any 3rd part software, because I'd know it. Or I've 8GB space, run Photoshop (nothing really complex), web browser, few normal applications, some terminal commands and I hit the wall, everything is crashes because of space, 5-10 minutes later, everything is back to normal (without doing nothing). My free space looks like random number from 0 to 10GB. I really monitor my space, but this is really annoying as well.


Now I understand the joke about Mac users, why they have to buy a new Macs, instead of formatting C: 🙂

Is my laptop is just dying and nobody wants to tell me the truth?

Aug 1, 2012 4:08 PM in response to kenorb

Hi..


I dont belive your laptop is dying, but you surely put it to work 🙂


Take a look at google chrome, 23% !!

On top of that you use flash.


Then windowserver at 17% , do you have a lot of dashboard widgets running ?


My advice is to dump google chrome and flash, and get rid of some of the widgets.

Your computer is fine, you just overwork it 🙂 IMHO.



/Dennis

Aug 1, 2012 4:47 PM in response to Denico

I'm using widgets to monitor when something is wrong, I've to monitor my CPU, memory and network, battery, and HDD space, otherwise I feel blind. If everything would be good, I wouldn't use them. I know that they're kind of slowing my CPU (I've decresed even the refresh times to 2 sec.).

I've flashblocker, so I don't watch adverts a lot, but usually I'm using gmail, calendar, some charts, forums, my local web instances and lots of other stuff, so I can't just not to use it, because this is the main reason that I've Mac, to work. If I had to resign from the things which I'm doing, at the same time I don't need my laptop for anything. The truth is that I'm able to overwork every possible system which I was working on (Unix, Linux, Windows), when I was using FreeBSD, they banned my forum topics, because I was pasting too many crashes and backtraces (so they hated me:), because it seemed that I was the only one who had that kind of problems. Every single bug report of some application usually had the same reply: Sorry, but your system is not supported, we can't help you anymore. So I've switched to Mac (which seemed to be less overworked) to have better support. But probably support will not help much either.

The only think that I could think is that I've moved from the UK to Switzerland and the temperatures are very hot, especially in the attic apartment.

The only thing that I could think is to sell me laptop (use it in Switzerland or in a attic apartments for your own risk) and buy the new one:)


In the other hand, I don't think that number of widgets, too much flash, too many tabs, different country, attic apartment, bad luck or temperature of the air has something to do with it.

The only think is, that I don't know how to check (which tool) why is so hot, or what's the problem, or how to find the thing which is causing that.

I've used most of them (top, iotop, strace, dmesg, checking crash logs). Any additional tool would be helpful.

Aug 3, 2012 11:44 AM in response to tahlenius

I don't think that too many tabs is causing the slowness and crashes, sometimes I've not too many opened (like today) and it crashed in the middle of my work.

See:

http://pastebin.com/zvv32Yap (crashed like 5 minutes ago).

Can I get some more information about the crash somehow?


Are there any ways to boot the kernel with some debugging information? Or low-level kernel debugging, or use something alternative to SysReq key (which is missing on MacBook) to check what is really making the CPU & fan busy and doing the crashes?


Aug 3, 2012 12:04 PM in response to kenorb

I'll start from here:


$ kextstat | grep -v apple

Index Refs Address Size Wired Name (Version) <Linked Against>

48 0 0x909000 0x2e000 0x2d000 at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (2.5.1) <7 5 4 3 1>

101 0 0x953000 0x5000 0x4000 com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.5.1) <92 5 4 3>

120 0 0x5906d000 0x2000 0x1000 com.radiosilenceapp.nke.PrivateEye (1) <4 1>

122 0 0x590f1000 0x3000 0x2000 com.bresink.driver.BRESINKx86Monitoring (9.0) <12 11 10>

123 3 0x599f0000 0x2d000 0x2c000 org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv (4.1.4) <7 5 4 3 1>

124 0 0x59596000 0x7000 0x6000 org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.1.4) <123 40 37 7 5 4 3 1>

125 0 0x59567000 0x4000 0x3000 org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt (4.1.4) <123 7 5 4 3 1>

127 0 0x6cfa8000 0x3000 0x2000 org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp (4.1.4) <123 5 4 1>


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